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Wayne.B January 30th 15 04:38 AM

Very Refreshing
 
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/

Califbill January 30th 15 06:43 AM

Very Refreshing
 
Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


Sounds like we need another POTUS from H. Truman land.

Keyser Söze January 30th 15 11:26 AM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite January 30th 15 12:05 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/



Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.

Keyser Söze January 30th 15 12:37 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/




Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.



I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite January 30th 15 02:21 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/





Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.



I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.



Environmental hazards can be found in virtually any project. We worry
so much about polution due to oil leaks yet have millions upon millions
of miles of paved asphalt roads and highways that have known
carcinogenic petroleum hydrocarbons that leech and runoff into the
surrounding ground. That doesn't take into account the run off of oil
drippings from vehicles traveling on those roads and highways.



Keyser Söze January 30th 15 02:30 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 9:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/






Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.



I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.



Environmental hazards can be found in virtually any project. We worry
so much about polution due to oil leaks yet have millions upon millions
of miles of paved asphalt roads and highways that have known
carcinogenic petroleum hydrocarbons that leech and runoff into the
surrounding ground. That doesn't take into account the run off of oil
drippings from vehicles traveling on those roads and highways.



True, but I don't see the benefits to the United States or to its
inhabitants living along the proposed Keystone route. I see the benefits
to Canada, I see the benefit$ to the Koch brothers, but I don't see the
benefits of allowing Canadian oil sludge to be transported via pipeline
through the United States so it can be sold abroad.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite January 30th 15 02:36 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/2015 9:30 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 9:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/







Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.


I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.



Environmental hazards can be found in virtually any project. We worry
so much about polution due to oil leaks yet have millions upon millions
of miles of paved asphalt roads and highways that have known
carcinogenic petroleum hydrocarbons that leech and runoff into the
surrounding ground. That doesn't take into account the run off of oil
drippings from vehicles traveling on those roads and highways.



True, but I don't see the benefits to the United States or to its
inhabitants living along the proposed Keystone route. I see the benefits
to Canada, I see the benefit$ to the Koch brothers, but I don't see the
benefits of allowing Canadian oil sludge to be transported via pipeline
through the United States so it can be sold abroad.



It already is and has been for years. To satisfy your objections the
whole thing would have to be shut down (which is probably fine with
you). The Keystone pipeline project is only one of several phases that
have already been built and in use.



Keyser Söze January 30th 15 02:46 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 9:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 9:30 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 9:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/








Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.


I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy
that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.



Environmental hazards can be found in virtually any project. We worry
so much about polution due to oil leaks yet have millions upon millions
of miles of paved asphalt roads and highways that have known
carcinogenic petroleum hydrocarbons that leech and runoff into the
surrounding ground. That doesn't take into account the run off of oil
drippings from vehicles traveling on those roads and highways.



True, but I don't see the benefits to the United States or to its
inhabitants living along the proposed Keystone route. I see the benefits
to Canada, I see the benefit$ to the Koch brothers, but I don't see the
benefits of allowing Canadian oil sludge to be transported via pipeline
through the United States so it can be sold abroad.



It already is and has been for years. To satisfy your objections the
whole thing would have to be shut down (which is probably fine with
you). The Keystone pipeline project is only one of several phases that
have already been built and in use.



Yes, I know. How does this proposed pipeline benefit the United States
and its citizens, aside from the relatively few jobs, mostly short-term,
it may provide.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B January 30th 15 03:13 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 07:05:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.


===

What a radical concept! :-)

Mr. Luddite January 30th 15 03:14 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/2015 9:46 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 9:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 9:30 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 9:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 7:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/









Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this
morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.


I understand the politics of Missouri and Kansas, and what a candidate
running statewide in those states of the right-wing religiously insane
has to do and say to stay elected.

We're turning into what the third world used to be. The Keystone
pipeline is nothing more than a private enterprise disaster that
may be
built to move one country's filthy sludge through another country
so it
may be sold to additional countries. Most Canadians are quite happy
that
the United States is so willing to serve as its oil sludge sewer.



Environmental hazards can be found in virtually any project. We worry
so much about polution due to oil leaks yet have millions upon millions
of miles of paved asphalt roads and highways that have known
carcinogenic petroleum hydrocarbons that leech and runoff into the
surrounding ground. That doesn't take into account the run off of oil
drippings from vehicles traveling on those roads and highways.



True, but I don't see the benefits to the United States or to its
inhabitants living along the proposed Keystone route. I see the benefits
to Canada, I see the benefit$ to the Koch brothers, but I don't see the
benefits of allowing Canadian oil sludge to be transported via pipeline
through the United States so it can be sold abroad.



It already is and has been for years. To satisfy your objections the
whole thing would have to be shut down (which is probably fine with
you). The Keystone pipeline project is only one of several phases that
have already been built and in use.



Yes, I know. How does this proposed pipeline benefit the United States
and its citizens, aside from the relatively few jobs, mostly short-term,
it may provide.



Refinery jobs, balance of trade.



Wayne.B January 30th 15 03:19 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:46:02 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How does this proposed pipeline benefit the United States
and its citizens, aside from the relatively few jobs, mostly short-term,
it may provide.


===

Easy. The next time there is a supply crunch, and there will be more,
we can keep that Canadian oil right here in the USA.

PS, all crude oil is a relatively foul substance. It really doesn't
matter all that much where it comes from.

Keyser Söze January 30th 15 05:01 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 11:55 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.


The way you folks throw the Koch brothers around you would think they
were the #1 bribers of politicians. In fact both Kochs put together
gave about 20% of what Bloomberg gave to federal candidates, parties,
political action committees, 527 organizations, and Carey committees.
Bloomberg is still a piker compares to Tom Steyer who gave about 3
times that and he is a major opponent to the pipeline. Steyer's money
is probably how you heard the pipeline was being built in the first
place. People act like this is the first oil pipeline ever built in
this country and it is some new, untested technology.
The real motive for pipeline opponents is the simple fact that they
hate the idea of burning fossil fuels and they have invented the other
issues to disguise that.
It is also ironic that Harry is so quick to get in line behind a
couple banksters like Steyer and Bloomberg.



Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B January 30th 15 05:18 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:55:04 -0500, wrote:

It is also ironic that Harry is so quick to get in line behind a
couple banksters like Steyer and Bloomberg.


===

Heh, hypocrite is Harry's middle name.

Keyser Söze January 30th 15 06:10 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 12:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:01:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:55 AM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:26:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.

The way you folks throw the Koch brothers around you would think they
were the #1 bribers of politicians. In fact both Kochs put together
gave about 20% of what Bloomberg gave to federal candidates, parties,
political action committees, 527 organizations, and Carey committees.
Bloomberg is still a piker compares to Tom Steyer who gave about 3
times that and he is a major opponent to the pipeline. Steyer's money
is probably how you heard the pipeline was being built in the first
place. People act like this is the first oil pipeline ever built in
this country and it is some new, untested technology.
The real motive for pipeline opponents is the simple fact that they
hate the idea of burning fossil fuels and they have invented the other
issues to disguise that.
It is also ironic that Harry is so quick to get in line behind a
couple banksters like Steyer and Bloomberg.



Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.


No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.


As I have stated here many times, I do not expect politicians and others
in the political arena, as Bloomberg still is, to agree with my
positions on every important issue. I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession, and on many
other issues, such as:

embryonic stem cell research
abortion rights
climate change
immigration



--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Keyser Söze January 30th 15 07:55 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,


One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Califbill January 30th 15 09:35 PM

Very Refreshing
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Proof?

Someone Else[_4_] January 31st 15 02:43 AM

Very Refreshing
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/




Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.

For a lemming like you that must be breaking news!


Someone Else[_4_] January 31st 15 02:44 AM

Very Refreshing
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 6:26 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/29/15 11:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/




Yup...the Koch Brothers bought her, too.



Happened catch the re-run of Rachael Maddow's show early this morning.
She had McCaskill as a guest.

Rachael enthusiastically endorsed McCaskill as a very viable and
competent Democratic POTUS potential even though McCaskill is far
more conservative than she is.

McCaskill is one of the few moderate Democrats who appeals to many
Independent voters and she commented on the fact that Independents
vote for who they consider to be the best candidates and not based
on partisan lines.

Sorry, I thought Harry actually posted this!


Keyser Söze January 31st 15 11:59 AM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/30/15 11:32 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.


So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Gene Kearns[_3_] January 31st 15 05:35 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:38:02 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

A democtratic politician who can rise above party ideology to do
what's right for the country:

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2015/01/29/mccaskill-issues-statement-the-keystone-pipeline-a-commonsense-approach/


That pipeline boondoggle will be a flash in the pan. Once the overall
construction is completed, there will be very few employees and it
will be that much easier to ship oil to anybody but the US.

I've lived close to the Colonial Pipeline since it was built in the
1950's... it runs from Texas to New York and has about 500-600
employees scattered through Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,
Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, North Carolina, Virginia,
Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey.

They don't really make an impact on any economy, other than GA, where
they are headquartered.... of course, the Keystone stash will go to
the headquarters in Canada, not the US. The Colonial pipeline is 5
times as long as the Keystone, so it will probably have about 1/5th
the employees... minus the employees at the headquarters. I doubt that
there will be over 50 employees, max, spread over 1100 miles.....
offset by the economic effects of any oil shipped to any point outside
the US. My guess? A net loss to the US..... no matter what political
position you hold, Keystone is a bad economic move.



Twenty years from now you will be more disppointed
by the things that you didn't do than by the ones
you did do.

So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.
- Mark Twain


1987 23' Grady-White Gulfstream
2005 20' Angler CC
2004 17' G3 CC 1756

Out of Shallotte, NC

Keyser Söze January 31st 15 07:04 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.


I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.


--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B January 31st 15 08:51 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.


I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.


===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.

Wayne.B January 31st 15 08:58 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:35:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

They don't really make an impact on any economy, other than GA, where
they are headquartered.... of course, the Keystone stash will go to
the headquarters in Canada, not the US.


===

You're ignoring the jobs and value added in the refineries and port
cities, not to mention the enviro benefits of not transporting it by
train. Even more important, when middle eastern sources are
restricted for one reason or other (and that will happen), we will be
much more energy independent than anyone else.

KC January 31st 15 09:14 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/2015 3:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:35:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

They don't really make an impact on any economy, other than GA, where
they are headquartered.... of course, the Keystone stash will go to
the headquarters in Canada, not the US.


===

You're ignoring the jobs and value added in the refineries and port
cities, not to mention the enviro benefits of not transporting it by
train. Even more important, when middle eastern sources are
restricted for one reason or other (and that will happen), we will be
much more energy independent than anyone else.


Yeah, it's not like we can't buy it from the refiners on the coast I
guess? ???

Keyser Söze January 31st 15 09:20 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.


===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Wayne.B January 31st 15 09:36 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:14:23 -0500, KC wrote:

On 1/31/2015 3:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:35:37 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

They don't really make an impact on any economy, other than GA, where
they are headquartered.... of course, the Keystone stash will go to
the headquarters in Canada, not the US.


===

You're ignoring the jobs and value added in the refineries and port
cities, not to mention the enviro benefits of not transporting it by
train. Even more important, when middle eastern sources are
restricted for one reason or other (and that will happen), we will be
much more energy independent than anyone else.


Yeah, it's not like we can't buy it from the refiners on the coast I
guess? ???


===

Of course. Too many people have apparently forgotten about the gas
shortages of the 70s and 80s after the Saudis turned off the tap. I'd
like to think that couldn't happen again but who knows.

Wayne.B January 31st 15 09:41 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.


===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.

Keyser Söze January 31st 15 09:49 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.





--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite January 31st 15 09:59 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/2015 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



Are you thinking of declaring independence sometime soon Wayne? :-)



Wayne.B January 31st 15 10:01 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.


===

I was shot at while in the service of my country but as a draft dodger
you wouldn't understand that.

Tim January 31st 15 10:02 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Saturday, January 31, 2015 at 1:49:32 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.





--
Proud to be a Liberal.


"Many will call me an adventurer - and that I am, only one of a different sort: one of those who risks his skin to prove his platitudes." [Che Guevara]

Mucho Loco January 31st 15 10:13 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.


Harry, tooting your own horn is unmannerly.

Were the owls overlooking those events?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Justan Olphart January 31st 15 10:21 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/2015 5:13 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.

===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.


Harry, tooting your own horn is unmannerly.

Were the owls overlooking those events?


He wouldn't get shot at so often if he didn't hang out with thieves,
thugs, union bosses, and other low life.


--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."



Keyser Söze January 31st 15 10:23 PM

Very Refreshing
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.

===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.


===

I was shot at while in the service of my country but as a draft dodger
you wouldn't understand that.


Sorry, but I am not a neocon republican like Cheney so I never dodged the
draft.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Wayne.B January 31st 15 10:55 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:59:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/31/2015 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.


===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



Are you thinking of declaring independence sometime soon Wayne? :-)


===

I thought we were all independent as of 1776 or so. :-)



Mucho Loco January 31st 15 11:02 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 17:21:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/31/2015 5:13 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.

===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.


Harry, tooting your own horn is unmannerly.

Were the owls overlooking those events?


He wouldn't get shot at so often if he didn't hang out with thieves,
thugs, union bosses, and other low life.


I've never heard anyone, even my two cop brothers and fellow soldiers, talk about
'the times they've been shot at'.

Now we're up to three times.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Wayne.B January 31st 15 11:03 PM

Very Refreshing
 
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.


===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America. Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.

Keyser Söze February 1st 15 12:14 AM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/15 6:02 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 17:21:24 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/31/2015 5:13 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/31/15 4:41 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:20:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 3:51 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 14:04:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/31/15 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 06:59:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 11:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:55:59 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:10:06 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:52 PM,
wrote:

Bloomberg isn't spending his money to promote voter suppression,
backwards, overly religious candidates, and regressive legislation as
the Kochs are.

No, he wants to take your assault rifles away from you.

I support most of Bloomberg's
efforts to tighten up firearms laws on illegal possession,

One of them is eliminating civilian ownership of guns like your ARs.


So? If it came to pass, I'd do what was required. I'm a gun hobbyist,
not a crazed NRA gun nutsie.

So you would just turn it in and take the $50 the government said was
just compensation?


I'm certainly *not* going to try to hold off federal or local law
enforcement agents...I'll leave that to Wayne, who said here he would in
order to retain possession of his firearms.

I'd rather give them up and then go to the beach. Firearms are a hobby
for me.

I forgot, you are a democrat. If the government wants to take your
stuff, you are more than happy to just give it to them. If our
forefathers were like you, you would still be curtseying to the queen.


Well, I'm not dumb enough to think I can stand off armed federal law
enforcement officers. This isn't the 18th Century and the troops aren't
on a supply or reinforcement chain 3000 miles long. I'll let your
survivors and those of Wayne let me know what happened. Has to do with
me not being an idiot, not with me being a Democrat.

===

Have you ever heard the saying "Live Free or Die"?

This country ws not founded by a bunch of pansy assed eastern
liberals.


I'll be delighted for you to take on federal authorities with your Mosin
Nagent you apparently can't shoot straight and your Ruger Mark III with
the dimpled barrel. Please let us know when you are going to do this, so
we are sure to tape it on the TV news.

Oh...the 18th Century founding fathers? They were eastern and pretty
radical and liberal. The *conservative* response would have been to
remain under the thumb of the Crown.

===

Funny stuff Harry. It's a lot more likely that the Feds will be
coming after you than after me. And although the founding fathers of
this great country may have been radical for their time, they were
not afraid of standing up to authority when oppressed.



1. Yup, funny.
2. Not likely.
3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.

How many times have you been shot at while standing up to authority to
help the oppressed?

Yeah, I thought so.

Harry, tooting your own horn is unmannerly.

Were the owls overlooking those events?


He wouldn't get shot at so often if he didn't hang out with thieves,
thugs, union bosses, and other low life.


I've never heard anyone, even my two cop brothers and fellow soldiers, talk about
'the times they've been shot at'.

Now we're up to three times.


It's been three times since the last time, which was in 2003.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Keyser Söze February 1st 15 12:28 AM

Very Refreshing
 
On 1/31/15 6:03 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2015 16:49:29 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

3. Three of the times I "stood up to authority" to help the oppressed
resulted in me getting shot at, once while reporting on and
participating in a black voter registration drive in the 1960s in the
deep south, once while working for land reform in Central America, and
once while helping organize oil rig supply ship crews.


===

Tell us more about this "land reform" in Central America. Does that
mean that you were trying to take land away from whom it legally
belonged and give it to someone else? That sounds like some kind of
Robin Hood adventure to me although it's hard to imagine your fat ass
in green tights and carrying a bow and arrow. Sounds like you were
ahead of your time and should have waited for Hugo Chavez in
Venezuela. His little adventure in socialism and seizing the assets
of others isn't turning out very well though.


Legally belonged? That's funny. In much of Central America, land was
stolen from the indigent people by the oligarchy, aided by the military
and sometimes aided by the good old USA, not unlike it was done in this
country, eh?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.


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