On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:23:35 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 1:15 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:03:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.


The PMAGs I use can be loaded with stripper clips. I have no reason to
do that, though.

I agree, that is not that big a deal if you are just loading on the
bench but being able to load the mag in the gun is handy.
You can get 10 rounds in the gun almost as fast as a magazine change,
either charging a dry mag or just topping one up. It is the way you
deal with zombie pop bottle attacks ;-)

I really have not done this at the range because I usually just take 3
or 4 charged magazines (30s) with me and that is about all I want to
shoot that gun before I want to try something else.
These days I only go when the electrical contractors association have
their "shoot". (a day of eating, socializing and networking at the
range)
Typically I will shoot 90 or 120 rounds of 308, 2 boxes of 12ga and a
box each of .45 and one of either 9mm or 380.
That gets "shooting" out of my system for a while.


I drive to the ranges with my firearms in their cases/bags, my mags
empty, and my ammo in a separate range bag. Driving around here with
loaded mags will get you in a heap of trouble if you are stopped by the
boys in blue for any reason. It's no big deal to load up a PMAG or a
Ruger Mark III mag.



Even if you have a concealed carry permit? I can drive around with a
loaded handgun on my person or anywhere in the vehicle where I have
direct control. Long guns are different. They have to be in a locked
case and unloaded.



I could do that, but at the moment, I really don't own a handgun I'd
consider for "concealed" use, so I don't bother. I really only got the
permit as a lark, since my local lawyer said he could do it for me.



--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry in the not to distant past I thought you said that after showing him a paper, you're lawyer advised you to get a gun and a permit. Not that the CCL was gotten just for the fun of it.

On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:35:01 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:23:35 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 1:15 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:03:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.


The PMAGs I use can be loaded with stripper clips. I have no reason to
do that, though.

I agree, that is not that big a deal if you are just loading on the
bench but being able to load the mag in the gun is handy.
You can get 10 rounds in the gun almost as fast as a magazine change,
either charging a dry mag or just topping one up. It is the way you
deal with zombie pop bottle attacks ;-)

I really have not done this at the range because I usually just take 3
or 4 charged magazines (30s) with me and that is about all I want to
shoot that gun before I want to try something else.
These days I only go when the electrical contractors association have
their "shoot". (a day of eating, socializing and networking at the
range)
Typically I will shoot 90 or 120 rounds of 308, 2 boxes of 12ga and a
box each of .45 and one of either 9mm or 380.
That gets "shooting" out of my system for a while.


I drive to the ranges with my firearms in their cases/bags, my mags
empty, and my ammo in a separate range bag. Driving around here with
loaded mags will get you in a heap of trouble if you are stopped by the
boys in blue for any reason. It's no big deal to load up a PMAG or a
Ruger Mark III mag.



Even if you have a concealed carry permit? I can drive around with a
loaded handgun on my person or anywhere in the vehicle where I have
direct control. Long guns are different. They have to be in a locked
case and unloaded.



I could do that, but at the moment, I really don't own a handgun I'd
consider for "concealed" use, so I don't bother. I really only got the
permit as a lark, since my local lawyer said he could do it for me.



--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry in the not to distant past I thought you said that after showing him a paper, you're lawyer advised you to get a gun and a permit. Not that the CCL was gotten just for the fun of it.

===

What a tangled web he weaves.

:-)

Tim wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:23:35 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/30/2015 1:15 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:03:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.


The PMAGs I use can be loaded with stripper clips. I have no reason to
do that, though.

I agree, that is not that big a deal if you are just loading on the
bench but being able to load the mag in the gun is handy.
You can get 10 rounds in the gun almost as fast as a magazine change,
either charging a dry mag or just topping one up. It is the way you
deal with zombie pop bottle attacks ;-)

I really have not done this at the range because I usually just take 3
or 4 charged magazines (30s) with me and that is about all I want to
shoot that gun before I want to try something else.
These days I only go when the electrical contractors association have
their "shoot". (a day of eating, socializing and networking at the
range)
Typically I will shoot 90 or 120 rounds of 308, 2 boxes of 12ga and a
box each of .45 and one of either 9mm or 380.
That gets "shooting" out of my system for a while.


I drive to the ranges with my firearms in their cases/bags, my mags
empty, and my ammo in a separate range bag. Driving around here with
loaded mags will get you in a heap of trouble if you are stopped by the
boys in blue for any reason. It's no big deal to load up a PMAG or a
Ruger Mark III mag.



Even if you have a concealed carry permit? I can drive around with a
loaded handgun on my person or anywhere in the vehicle where I have
direct control. Long guns are different. They have to be in a locked
case and unloaded.



I could do that, but at the moment, I really don't own a handgun I'd
consider for "concealed" use, so I don't bother. I really only got the
permit as a lark, since my local lawyer said he could do it for me.



--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry in the not to distant past I thought you said that after showing
him a paper, you're lawyer advised you to get a gun and a permit. Not
that the CCL was gotten just for the fun of it.

Nope. And I didn't say I got it for the fun of it. Those are your words.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Califbill wrote:
Someone Else wrote:
Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:17:25 -0500, Someone Else wrote:

Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 5:19:08 PM UTC-8, Someone Else wrote:
Just added this to my collection...

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...zzle-Brake.asp

It's gas operated and the bolt is interesting...

http://i39.tinypic.com/15noab4.jpg
I hope you got a great deal on it.. I saw the MSRP. That's kinda high
IMO but then again...
Looking at the weight, better work on wrist and arm strength.
It's not bad. Seven rounds adds maybe seven more ounces but it can be
single-handed without a problem. I haven't fired it yet so the recoil
might be a different story!
It looks heavy enough to handle a lot of recoil.

I'm thinking of investing in a pair of these to go along with the muffs.
When shooting the Mosin
Nagant, the muff gets pushed up the side of my head. The little rubber
plugs don't seem to do much
for me.

Took a friend to the range with me yesterday. He's almost 80, flies RC
planes, and loves guns. But,
he's living with his son and family and son doesn't want guns in the
house with the kid around -
safe or no safe. Yesterday I let him shoot the MN. He had a blast - had
never fired anything bigger
than a .22 squirrel rifle.


It's fun to introduce people into shooting. A friend of mine came into
town for a week and I took him and his sons to the range. They had never
fired a gun so we started with my .22 pistol and moved up to the .44
Magnum. Then I brought out the AR and AK. They all had a great time.
The ammo cost was over $300 for the day but worth every penny!
I just bought 420 rounds on 5.56 brass cased with ammo box and stripper
clips at 35 cents a round. Could have saved a couple bucks on line, and a
lot of bucks if Harry would share his und r market source.
Try wikiarms.com or the phone app. It's great!

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 2:36 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:15:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:03:56 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/30/15 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet
stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you
don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.


The PMAGs I use can be loaded with stripper clips. I have no
reason to
do that, though.

I agree, that is not that big a deal if you are just loading on the
bench but being able to load the mag in the gun is handy.
You can get 10 rounds in the gun almost as fast as a magazine change,
either charging a dry mag or just topping one up. It is the way you
deal with zombie pop bottle attacks ;-)

I really have not done this at the range because I usually just take 3
or 4 charged magazines (30s) with me and that is about all I want to
shoot that gun before I want to try something else.
These days I only go when the electrical contractors association have
their "shoot". (a day of eating, socializing and networking at the
range)
Typically I will shoot 90 or 120 rounds of 308, 2 boxes of 12ga and a
box each of .45 and one of either 9mm or 380.
That gets "shooting" out of my system for a while.


I drive to the ranges with my firearms in their cases/bags, my mags
empty, and my ammo in a separate range bag. Driving around here with
loaded mags will get you in a heap of trouble if you are stopped by the
boys in blue for any reason. It's no big deal to load up a PMAG or a
Ruger Mark III mag.

That is a silly law.
Besides you are supposed to have a CCW that would allow you to have
your guns loaded on your person.
I still have the guns separate from the ammo (different containers) so
I am not sure why it would be illegal, even in the people's republic
of Md.
When I lived there you could have a loaded long gun in your car. That
was a long time ago tho when it was still the "free state"


I have no reason to drive around with a loaded firearm. Now, if I were
traveling south on I-95, I'd consider it where legal, but the worse
state I'd go through to get to north Florida, South Carolina, doesn't
recognize my carry permit.

Why would you drive around with a loaded rifle or shotgun in your car?
This ain't Montana or Wyoming.

Biden said a shotgun is the best ever home defense weapon so it must be
true.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 2:58 PM, wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:03:58 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.


The PMAGs I use can be loaded with stripper clips. I have no reason to
do that, though.

You'll load AR mags by hand, but won't shoot a single action pistol
because it's to fiddly?

With stripper clip ammo and a spoon, I can fully load a 30 round mag
before you get 6 or 8 rounds in by hand.


I'm not in any hurry to load my AR mags. Besides, I have a mag loader
that does a nice job with my cooperation. Yeah, I don't like the
loading gates on SA revolvers. Pushing each empty shell out is a pain
in the ass.

You have nothing but time on your hands. HK&A is dissolved. Your
wife... we all know the rest of the story.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/30/15 5:48 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:58:16 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I have no reason to drive around with a loaded firearm.

===

Nice back pedal.

You stated, and I quote: "Driving around here with loaded mags will
get you in a heap of trouble if you are stopped by the boys in blue
for any reason."

That appears to be incorrect would you not agree?


My mags have dimples.

Dumb.

Someone Else wrote:
Califbill wrote:
Someone Else wrote:
Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:17:25 -0500, Someone Else wrote:

Califbill wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 5:19:08 PM UTC-8, Someone Else wrote:
Just added this to my collection...

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Firear...zzle-Brake.asp

It's gas operated and the bolt is interesting...

http://i39.tinypic.com/15noab4.jpg
I hope you got a great deal on it.. I saw the MSRP. That's kinda high
IMO but then again...
Looking at the weight, better work on wrist and arm strength.
It's not bad. Seven rounds adds maybe seven more ounces but it can be
single-handed without a problem. I haven't fired it yet so the recoil
might be a different story!
It looks heavy enough to handle a lot of recoil.

I'm thinking of investing in a pair of these to go along with the muffs.
When shooting the Mosin
Nagant, the muff gets pushed up the side of my head. The little rubber
plugs don't seem to do much
for me.

Took a friend to the range with me yesterday. He's almost 80, flies RC
planes, and loves guns. But,
he's living with his son and family and son doesn't want guns in the
house with the kid around -
safe or no safe. Yesterday I let him shoot the MN. He had a blast - had
never fired anything bigger
than a .22 squirrel rifle.


It's fun to introduce people into shooting. A friend of mine came into
town for a week and I took him and his sons to the range. They had never
fired a gun so we started with my .22 pistol and moved up to the .44
Magnum. Then I brought out the AR and AK. They all had a great time.
The ammo cost was over $300 for the day but worth every penny!
I just bought 420 rounds on 5.56 brass cased with ammo box and stripper
clips at 35 cents a round. Could have saved a couple bucks on line, and a
lot of bucks if Harry would share his und r market source.
Try wikiarms.com or the phone app. It's great!

I look at wiki arms. Figure 420 will suffice for awhile. So it cost me an
extra $10 or less. Less hassle to just buy in the local Dick's sporting
goods.

On 1/31/2015 12:52 AM, wrote:
On 31 Jan 2015 01:55:06 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Tim wrote:

Harry in the not to distant past I thought you said that after showing
him a paper, you're lawyer advised you to get a gun and a permit. Not
that the CCL was gotten just for the fun of it.

Nope. And I didn't say I got it for the fun of it. Those are your words.

No you said it was a "on a lark".


He made up a threat and used my local police to help get it done....

On 1/31/15 12:43 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 15:35:42 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 06:34:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


30 cents a round seems to be the going price at many internet stores,
but I don't mess with stripper clips.

I doubt your AR will even use stripper clips. I can see why you don't
mess with them. My M1A can directly charge the magazine in the gun
from the top with a stripper clip and the bolt kicks it out of the
holder when you close it.

The box came with an attachment for the clip.

I have a couple of those magazine loader "spoons" John was talking
about but I have never used them. I always load the magazines from
loose rounds. I do have some battle packs in strippers but I haven't
even opened the bags. I have a bunch more in strippers in a can but I
haven't got down to shooting them either. I am still working on stuff
that was boxed. If you just stack them in a 30 cal ammo can in
alternate directions you get almost 400 rounds in there that way.


I am very deliberate when it comes to handling and using firearms,
overly cautious, as it were. I have a little device that pushes the
rounds down into the mags and allows me to hand load the mags a round at
a time. That's the way I like to do it. Typically, the items I shoot -
the soda bottles, paper targets, and gongs - tend to stay about where I
put them and are well-trained enough to not come after me.

I bought the shiny speed loaders for my .357 MAG revolver because I
thought they were a cool bit of kit.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.