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wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 20:38:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Really? Just like it? The very beginning of the video clearly shows
the lower being stamped "Restricted for military... use only". Turns
out you have a military rifle after all. :)


Colt uses different stamps from time to time for various reasons. That
stamp was the result of the national regs on AR rifles that expired.
Mine doesn't say that.


You have a loophole gun that is basically illegal in your state in
virtually any other configuration.
Simply dropping in a slightly heavier barrel lets it slip through a
crack in the law. I am sure there are plenty of people in Annapolis
who want to plug that hole.

We do have some odd firearms regs here. You can buy an AR-10, no problemo.
Or an HBR AR-15. Or build an HBR AR-15. But no pencil barrel AR-15s.
Luckily, the HBR Colt was the one I wanted...it is more accurate.
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On 1/23/15 6:01 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 20:38:48 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Really? Just like it? The very beginning of the video clearly shows
the lower being stamped "Restricted for military... use only". Turns
out you have a military rifle after all. :)


Colt uses different stamps from time to time for various reasons. That
stamp was the result of the national regs on AR rifles that expired.
Mine doesn't say that.


You have a loophole gun that is basically illegal in your state in
virtually any other configuration.
Simply dropping in a slightly heavier barrel lets it slip through a
crack in the law. I am sure there are plenty of people in Annapolis
who want to plug that hole.

We do have some odd firearms regs here. You can buy an AR-10, no problemo.
Or an HBR AR-15. Or build an HBR AR-15. But no pencil barrel AR-15s.
Luckily, the HBR Colt was the one I wanted...it is more accurate.


Oh, the "heavy barrel" is about a pound heavier, and that's more than
"slightly" heavier for a 16" barrel. No sliced out area for the grenade
launcher, either, dammit. :)



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On 1/23/15 2:35 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 7:33 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 6:44 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:05:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 5:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

===

How does that jibe with your ownership and glowing descriptions of an
AR-15?

Your new found sensitivity is touching BTW.


I don't own an M16.

"The AR-15 was designed to fit this exploration into a smaller caliber
around 1958, which led to the development of the 5.56x45, commercially
known as the .223Rem. ArmaLite sold the rights of the two designs to
Colt in 1959. The USAF and US Army began seriously looking at the AR-15.
The USAF adopted it shortly thereafter and it was made the primary
infantry weapon for all of the branches of the US military a few years
later in 1967, despite resistance by some in the higher ranks of the
Army and USMC. Dubbed, the "M16" (US Military designation), it replaced
the M14 and M1 Carbine."

Your distinction is quite a bit more than dubious.



The M16s the military issues can be fired on full automatic. My civilian
AR-15 was built in 2014 and cannot be fired on full automatic.
It is not the rifle the military issues. There are other differences. I
don't own a military rifle.


Very little difference except for the select fire. And I do not think the
modern M4 can fire full automatic. I think the auto part is 3 round burst.



There's quite a bit of difference. Obtaining the necessary parts and
converting an AR to full auto will make you eligible for a serious term in the slammer.

The M4A1 is full auto.

My AR has been customized some, with "accessories" you probably would not
find on military issue rifles, but it is still a civilian semi-auto rifle.


Other than the trigger setup and the select fire switch, is almost the
same. Different bolt and bolt face. But is very close.


Same bolt on the Colt 6721, the model I have. Also, mine now has a
free-floated barrel...the stock military Colts do not, and a low-pro gas
block, and some ambi features and a different stock, 12" fore-end,
trigger, iron sights, et cetera. Unfortunately, a silencer for these
rifles is about a grand...yikes! :(

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 19:15:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/22/15 6:44 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:05:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 5:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

===

How does that jibe with your ownership and glowing descriptions of an
AR-15?

Your new found sensitivity is touching BTW.


I don't own an M16.

"The AR-15 was designed to fit this exploration into a smaller caliber around 1958, which led to the development of the 5.56x45, commercially known as the .223Rem. ArmaLite sold the rights of the two designs to Colt in 1959. The USAF and US Army began seriously looking at the AR-15. The USAF adopted it shortly thereafter and it was made the primary infantry weapon for all of the branches of the US military a few years later in 1967, despite resistance by some in the higher ranks of the Army and USMC. Dubbed, the "M16" (US Military designation), it replaced the M14 and M1 Carbine."

Your distinction is quite a bit more than dubious.



The M16s the military issues can be fired on full automatic. My civilian
AR-15 was built in 2014 and cannot be fired on full automatic.
It is not the rifle the military issues. There are other differences. I
don't own a military rifle.

In a year in Vietnam, I fired my M-16 on automatic one time - at beer cans. The rest was always
semi-auto. To suggest your weapons isn't military because it won't fire on automatic is pure
horse****.

Our Mosin Nagants won't fire on automatic either, but you find their discussion divisive and
offensive.
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of certain gun owners causes problems.

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On 1/23/15 7:57 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 19:15:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/22/15 6:44 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:05:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 5:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

===

How does that jibe with your ownership and glowing descriptions of an
AR-15?

Your new found sensitivity is touching BTW.


I don't own an M16.

"The AR-15 was designed to fit this exploration into a smaller caliber around 1958, which led to the development of the 5.56x45, commercially known as the .223Rem. ArmaLite sold the rights of the two designs to Colt in 1959. The USAF and US Army began seriously looking at the AR-15. The USAF adopted it shortly thereafter and it was made the primary infantry weapon for all of the branches of the US military a few years later in 1967, despite resistance by some in the higher ranks of the Army and USMC. Dubbed, the "M16" (US Military designation), it replaced the M14 and M1 Carbine."

Your distinction is quite a bit more than dubious.



The M16s the military issues can be fired on full automatic. My civilian
AR-15 was built in 2014 and cannot be fired on full automatic.
It is not the rifle the military issues. There are other differences. I
don't own a military rifle.

In a year in Vietnam, I fired my M-16 on automatic one time - at beer cans. The rest was always
semi-auto. To suggest your weapons isn't military because it won't fire on automatic is pure
horse****.

Our Mosin Nagants won't fire on automatic either, but you find their discussion divisive and
offensive.


You missed the irony, I would guess. It was a put-on, aimed at the
leading hobbyist in rec.boats. :)

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 20:04:32 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/22/2015 7:15 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 6:44 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:05:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 5:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in
wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

===

How does that jibe with your ownership and glowing descriptions of an
AR-15?

Your new found sensitivity is touching BTW.


I don't own an M16.

"The AR-15 was designed to fit this exploration into a smaller caliber
around 1958, which led to the development of the 5.56x45, commercially
known as the .223Rem. ArmaLite sold the rights of the two designs to
Colt in 1959. The USAF and US Army began seriously looking at the
AR-15. The USAF adopted it shortly thereafter and it was made the
primary infantry weapon for all of the branches of the US military a
few years later in 1967, despite resistance by some in the higher
ranks of the Army and USMC. Dubbed, the "M16" (US Military
designation), it replaced the M14 and M1 Carbine."

Your distinction is quite a bit more than dubious.



The M16s the military issues can be fired on full automatic. My civilian
AR-15 was built in 2014 and cannot be fired on full automatic.
It is not the rifle the military issues. There are other differences. I
don't own a military rifle.

How would you describe yours? A clone, copy, lookalike, facsimile,
knockoff, Kit bashed piece of ****e? The latter is probably most
apropos, dontcha think? Aren't you a little old to be playing Rambo?

'Playing' is the key word.
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Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

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On 23 Jan 2015 03:17:34 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...-ts=1421828030

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

I am surprised you would say something like that since your favorite
gun these days is basically an M-16/AR-15 that killed so many of those
Vietnamese you worry about so much ... and all those kids at Sandy
Hook.the theater in Aurora and the DC sniper.

Just a bit of fun using john's words

Which of those words were mine, Krause. Richard will get you for 'putting words in the mouths of
others' again.
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of certain gun owners causes problems.

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On 1/23/15 8:00 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 20:04:32 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/22/2015 7:15 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 6:44 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, January 22, 2015 at 6:05:08 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/22/15 5:56 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in
wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

===

How does that jibe with your ownership and glowing descriptions of an
AR-15?

Your new found sensitivity is touching BTW.


I don't own an M16.

"The AR-15 was designed to fit this exploration into a smaller caliber
around 1958, which led to the development of the 5.56x45, commercially
known as the .223Rem. ArmaLite sold the rights of the two designs to
Colt in 1959. The USAF and US Army began seriously looking at the
AR-15. The USAF adopted it shortly thereafter and it was made the
primary infantry weapon for all of the branches of the US military a
few years later in 1967, despite resistance by some in the higher
ranks of the Army and USMC. Dubbed, the "M16" (US Military
designation), it replaced the M14 and M1 Carbine."

Your distinction is quite a bit more than dubious.



The M16s the military issues can be fired on full automatic. My civilian
AR-15 was built in 2014 and cannot be fired on full automatic.
It is not the rifle the military issues. There are other differences. I
don't own a military rifle.

How would you describe yours? A clone, copy, lookalike, facsimile,
knockoff, Kit bashed piece of ****e? The latter is probably most
apropos, dontcha think? Aren't you a little old to be playing Rambo?

'Playing' is the key word.


Sly and I are almost the same age, and both of us are younger than you,
Johnny, and neither of us are interested in playing "Russian soldier."

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On 1/23/15 8:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 23 Jan 2015 03:17:34 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On 22 Jan 2015 22:18:45 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...-ts=1421828030

Frankly, John, I find your touting of firearms actually used in wars and
toys depicting actual military airplanes divisive and offensive. ?

I am surprised you would say something like that since your favorite
gun these days is basically an M-16/AR-15 that killed so many of those
Vietnamese you worry about so much ... and all those kids at Sandy
Hook.the theater in Aurora and the DC sniper.

Just a bit of fun using john's words

Which of those words were mine, Krause. Richard will get you for 'putting words in the mouths of
others' again.


Your touting of Russki firearms, of course, and your admiration for toy
warplanes. Those words. Got it?

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On 1/23/2015 8:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
" Frankly, John, I find you divisive and offensive. ?"
Krauseberg, these are your exact words. Edited for brevity of course.
Don't you think you owe John an apology? ;-)

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"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."