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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 1:34 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). The FFL fees vary by FFL, and Lou's isn't the only one. There are quite a few FFLs. The one I use is less expensive than Lou's, and it isn't based on any percentage. And yes, Maryland is more particular about gun "transfers" than "Wild West Virginia." The waiting period can be up to seven days. With the last regulated handgun I bought, the paperwork was faxed to the Staties on Monday and I picked up the pistol on Thursday. There is no waiting period for long guns. Nice try, Johnny. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:45:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 1:34 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 10:35 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:24:03 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 15:58:20 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 3:52 PM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 24, 2015 at 9:36:12 AM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/15 12:33 PM, Tim wrote: The lady time I bought .223 was at a gun show. 1000 rounds - $140.00 In what, 1897? :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. 10 years ago. Brass FMJ. I've bought it for as little as $120.00 per thousand. I've seen the steel Russki stuff for .22 a round. === Sounds like you need to visit Illinois and go to some gun shows. Illinois in in the mid-west and has major airports. These days, gun show ammo tends to be overpriced. Tim bought his ammo 10 years ago. To be honest, I think the internet is going to kill guns and mortar ammo sales too. Guys who just want a box or two a year will still go to Walmart or Bass Pro but if you shoot a lot and buy in bulk. The net will kill them every time. That will be particularly true if you are not shooting a commodity caliber that a B&M store can sell in some volume. Even 40 years ago, we were dealing with a regional distributor for our shotgun shells because we were buying in volume. It was saving us 35-40% from the discount stores (like Kmart at the time) and way less than any mom and pop gun store Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork. Rifles, though, are handled by the FFLs for $10. I buy through a local dealer who has a nice store and who charges me fair prices for firearms. His distributors seem to have access to about any new firearm that interests me. Sure glad I don't live in MD. Sharpshooters charges me $25 for the first and $5 for each additional, no extra charge for the state cops, and they don't collect any tax on the transfer. But then again, look who they're dealing with in Southern MD! Lou's Sporting Goods: http://www.coolshooting.net/?page_id=689 Transfer Fee is $75.00 or 10%, whichever is greater for ALL transferred firearms. All transfers MUST be accompanied by a paid bill of sale All transfers from private owners must have a very clear readable copy of the sellers drivers license. For Maryland residents, there is no transfer fee. However, there is an additional $15.00 fee for the Maryland State Police NICS check for regulated firearms only, sold to MD residents, such as all handguns and all assault rifles which are known as regulated firearms. Don’t forget the 7 day waiting period (a full 7 days) which means you can pick up your regulated firearm on the 8th. day. Sales tax at 6% will be added to all firearm sales in the state of Maryland (NEW, USED & TRANSFERS, NO EXCEPTIONS). The FFL fees vary by FFL, and Lou's isn't the only one. There are quite a few FFLs. The one I use is less expensive than Lou's, and it isn't based on any percentage. And yes, Maryland is more particular about gun "transfers" than "Wild West Virginia." The waiting period can be up to seven days. With the last regulated handgun I bought, the paperwork was faxed to the Staties on Monday and I picked up the pistol on Thursday. There is no waiting period for long guns. Nice try, Johnny. Try at what? I believe these were your words: "Unless the out of state internet sellers are offering huge discounts, it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork." $75 is $75, regardless if it's charged by Lou's or 'the one you use which is less expensive' (than the $75 you already said the locals charge). Nice try, Harry. -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 1:56 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Wouldn't the same fee be applied to a private sale transfer in the state? Dunno. Never sold a firearm instate to another private party. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:59:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) Gosh, which dealer was that, Harry? -- Guns don't cause problems. The behavior of certain gun owners causes problems. |
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On 1/25/15 2:03 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:59:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 1:39 PM, Poquito Loco wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:42:51 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 12:24 PM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 12:08:25 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/25/15 10:46 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:45:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: it's not really financially worthwhile in Maryland to buy readily available pistols on line because the local FFLs add about $75 for their fee for filing the Maryland paperwork Gee I thought everyone was saying this was "a few dollars". The truth finally comes out ... as it always does eventually. The state's fees are small, but most FFLs are making money off the processing. A distinction without a difference to the buyer. Well, it encourages one to buy pistols from an in-state dealer, and then all you pay is the small state processing fee. When I bought my last pistol, it cost me $10 more in total than buying from the lowest cost out of state on line dealer. Sounds like Tim hadn't shown you the Slickguns site yet. I've not found a gun locally that I couldn't save a bundle on by buying online - except for the Mosin Nagant. But, that was before Tim clued me in. I'm aware of the "Slickguns" site. It shows a Ruger Mark III 512, the model I have, at $340. I paid $349.99 at a local dealer's, and no FFL fees or shipping. I did pay 6% sales tax. Oh, add to that in separate transactions about $100 for upgrade pieces and parts and $90 for barrel threading, cap, and relocating front sight. No FFLs involved. :) Gosh, which dealer was that, Harry? Ruger has lots of dealers in Maryland. Shop around, which is what I did. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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