On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:15:14 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/18/14 6:58 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 18:30:38 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/18/14 5:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 16:20:45 -0500, Toad Gigger
wrote:


My brother, former cop, loved the P226 and the decocking feature. He
could chamber a round, decock, add another round to the magazine, and
ready to shoot by pulling the trigger.

This all came about from police who were transitionally from a
revolver to an SA. That is what the "P" means in my KP90.
This will react just like a revolver.



The "P" means police?

I seriously don't understand the rational for DA/SA in semi-auto
pistols. I don't like the typically long and indefinite DA pull to get
to SA. I think when you pull the trigger on a firearm, it should go
bang...immediately, unless you happen to like two stage triggers. I don't.

My revolver is DA unless I pull the hammer back and pull the trigger. I
hardly ever fire it DA. I bought a DA revolver because I prefer the way
the cylinder rolls out for loading and unloading rounds. I never liked
the SA method of pushing the empties out one at a time.

I'm trying to decide on a new trigger for my AR-15. The Colt comes with
a typical mil-spec trigger...too long a pull and too heavy. I'm thinking
3 to 3.5 pounds, single stage, would be to my liking.

This just shows the truth to the 'different strokes for different
folks' idiom. When shooting my revolvers, both DA, I very seldom pull
the hammer back and shoot SA.

I didn't know that single action revolvers required pushing empties
out one at a time. What a pain. Another good reason to stick with DA
revolvers.



Yeah, on a SA revolver, the cylinder does not flip out. There's a "port"
on the right side of the pistol, typically, a little door that flips
open and you turn the cylinder by hand to line up each chamber with the
port. Then you push out the "empty" with a built in ejector rod that
sits under the barrel. The modern variant of the DA revolver, with a
flip-out cylinder, didn't come along until nearly the end of the 19th
Century, long after the Wild West was tamed.

Makes you wonder about all those cowboy westerns in which the
gunfighters quickly reload. Nope.

Yeah, after you mentioned it I looked on You Tube. That doesn't look
like a lot of fun. Guess I'll bypass all the 'cowboy' SA revolvers and
stick with what I've got, although I may consider a .22 DA revolver.

On Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:16:44 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:15:14 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Yeah, on a SA revolver, the cylinder does not flip out. There's a "port"
on the right side of the pistol, typically, a little door that flips
open and you turn the cylinder by hand to line up each chamber with the
port. Then you push out the "empty" with a built in ejector rod that
sits under the barrel. The modern variant of the DA revolver, with a
flip-out cylinder, didn't come along until nearly the end of the 19th
Century, long after the Wild West was tamed.



Yeah, after you mentioned it I looked on You Tube. That doesn't look
like a lot of fun. Guess I'll bypass all the 'cowboy' SA revolvers and
stick with what I've got, although I may consider a .22 DA revolver.

My Ruger Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk are like that. It's not really a big deal, when target shooting I'm not in that much of a hurry. I also save the brass, and one at a time is easier to deal with than a handfull at once..

On the positive side the frames are inherently stronger, so you can shoot maximum loads with no worries. With the right load, the 44 mag or 45 LC will really rock your world. :-)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 04:14:39 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:16:44 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:15:14 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Yeah, on a SA revolver, the cylinder does not flip out. There's a "port"
on the right side of the pistol, typically, a little door that flips
open and you turn the cylinder by hand to line up each chamber with the
port. Then you push out the "empty" with a built in ejector rod that
sits under the barrel. The modern variant of the DA revolver, with a
flip-out cylinder, didn't come along until nearly the end of the 19th
Century, long after the Wild West was tamed.



Yeah, after you mentioned it I looked on You Tube. That doesn't look
like a lot of fun. Guess I'll bypass all the 'cowboy' SA revolvers and
stick with what I've got, although I may consider a .22 DA revolver.

My Ruger Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk are like that. It's not really a big deal, when target shooting I'm not in that much of a hurry. I also save the brass, and one at a time is easier to deal with than a handfull at once.

On the positive side the frames are inherently stronger, so you can shoot maximum loads with no worries. With the right load, the 44 mag or 45 LC will really rock your world. :-)

Yeah, I can see where the idea would be a good one when taking kids
shooting. Save on ammo for sure.

On 12/19/14 7:14 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 18, 2014 8:16:44 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 19:15:14 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Yeah, on a SA revolver, the cylinder does not flip out. There's a "port"
on the right side of the pistol, typically, a little door that flips
open and you turn the cylinder by hand to line up each chamber with the
port. Then you push out the "empty" with a built in ejector rod that
sits under the barrel. The modern variant of the DA revolver, with a
flip-out cylinder, didn't come along until nearly the end of the 19th
Century, long after the Wild West was tamed.



Yeah, after you mentioned it I looked on You Tube. That doesn't look
like a lot of fun. Guess I'll bypass all the 'cowboy' SA revolvers and
stick with what I've got, although I may consider a .22 DA revolver.

My Ruger Blackhawk and Super Blackhawk are like that. It's not really a big deal, when target shooting I'm not in that much of a hurry. I also save the brass, and one at a time is easier to deal with than a handfull at once.

On the positive side the frames are inherently stronger, so you can shoot maximum loads with no worries. With the right load, the 44 mag or 45 LC will really rock your world. :-)



No, it's not a big deal, as you say. For most of us who are not getting
into gunfights regularly , it's just a matter of personal preference.
I like revolvers, SA and DA, but I prefer the latter even though I fire
them SA mostly, just because of the more convenient (for me) loading and
unloading of rounds.

I really do like revolvers more than semi-auto pistols from the point of
view of aesthetics. Maybe it is because I am an old fart. I like lever
action rifles, too. None of my ancestors were cowboys or even in this
country when the Old West was the Old West. Must be something that got
ingrained in me from all those 25 cent Saturday matinees I went to as a
kid where western movies were "the thing."

Yes, sprouts, when I was a kid, you could go to the local movie house on
Saturday and for 25 cents, you could see movies from noon until 5 pm.
Westerns, space adventures, cartoons, serials...everything.

Harry maybe that's part of my delima. Some of my ancestors liked rifles too! Lol!

http://www.archives.gov/research/nat...dians-089a.jpg

On 12/19/14 9:39 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry maybe that's part of my delima. Some of my ancestors liked rifles too! Lol!

http://www.archives.gov/research/nat...dians-089a.jpg



Damned nice outfit and head of hair. Even when I had all my hair, it
wasn't that fancy. Ever.

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:39:19 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry maybe that's part of my delima. Some of my ancestors liked rifles too! Lol!

http://www.archives.gov/research/nat...dians-089a.jpg

Tim, do you find it hard to get ammo for that rifle? I'm sure you've
still got it.

On 12/19/14 9:54 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:39:19 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry maybe that's part of my delima. Some of my ancestors liked rifles too! Lol!

http://www.archives.gov/research/nat...dians-089a.jpg

Tim, do you find it hard to get ammo for that rifle? I'm sure you've
still got it.


He makes it out of metal scraps leftover from his horseshoe/barrel
stave/electrical doohickey business out in the shop.

Lol! No I never did have a 'trap door' Springfield, but ironically I do have 5 rounds of 45-70 govt. for one.

On 12/19/14 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:54:55 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 06:39:19 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Harry maybe that's part of my delima. Some of my ancestors liked rifles too! Lol!

http://www.archives.gov/research/nat...dians-089a.jpg

Tim, do you find it hard to get ammo for that rifle? I'm sure you've
still got it.

It is hard to tell exactly what that gun is but if it is an old army
falling block (popular in the west) it was likely to be 45-70 and you
can still find that ammo. Just be sure it is downloaded to black
powder pressures to be safe. Some of those would handle modern loads
but I suspect most won't.

Personally I would consider anything like that to be a wall hanger.



The Italians make lovely clones of the old lever action rifles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SPl9FvSrck