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On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote:
New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. -- Jeb Bush 2016 Bumper Sticker: *Try to Forget My Brother George W. Bush Left The Country in Smoldering Ruins* |
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On 12/17/2014 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. You were hesitant on #1. So you have a luke warm like for full autos. Please tell us what you find favorable about them. Do you have one secreted away in your floor safe in the bedroom? -- Patriotic Americans dump on Krause. |
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On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. -- Jeb Bush 2016 Bumper Sticker: *Try to Forget My Brother George W. Bush Left The Country in Smoldering Ruins* |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:13:20 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:39:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:30:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. Which part bothers you, the fact that it is striker fired or that it is DAO? Actually it is fairly common that DAO SAs don't have a safety. It is the same theory as why revolvers don't have safeties. My Ruger doesn't either. You simply decock it when you are not actively shooting. That is part of my regular drill, starting at retention, finger on the slide, firing 2 quick rounds and returning to retention, finger on the slide, while decocking. I have just built the muscle memory so it is instinctive. === You decock the hammer with a round in the chamber? What if? The Sig P226 also has a decocker. What if? Keep it pointed downrange when decocking. -- Here's hoping you have a very Merry Christmas, and a spectacular New Year! |
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On 12/18/2014 8:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:39:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:30:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. Which part bothers you, the fact that it is striker fired or that it is DAO? Actually it is fairly common that DAO SAs don't have a safety. It is the same theory as why revolvers don't have safeties. My Ruger doesn't either. You simply decock it when you are not actively shooting. That is part of my regular drill, starting at retention, finger on the slide, firing 2 quick rounds and returning to retention, finger on the slide, while decocking. I have just built the muscle memory so it is instinctive. === You decock the hammer with a round in the chamber? What if? One of the pistols I had or have (maybe it's the Walther?) has a safety but they call it a "decocker". I *think* you are supposed to be able to decock it without firing a round that may be loaded but I've never trusted it to try it. May not be the Walther. I can't remember. |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 11:35:56 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 12/18/2014 8:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:39:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:30:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. Which part bothers you, the fact that it is striker fired or that it is DAO? Actually it is fairly common that DAO SAs don't have a safety. It is the same theory as why revolvers don't have safeties. My Ruger doesn't either. You simply decock it when you are not actively shooting. That is part of my regular drill, starting at retention, finger on the slide, firing 2 quick rounds and returning to retention, finger on the slide, while decocking. I have just built the muscle memory so it is instinctive. === You decock the hammer with a round in the chamber? What if? One of the pistols I had or have (maybe it's the Walther?) has a safety but they call it a "decocker". I *think* you are supposed to be able to decock it without firing a round that may be loaded but I've never trusted it to try it. May not be the Walther. I can't remember. The Sig decocker allows the hammer to come forward, but not enough to engage the firing pin. Then the pistol becomes a DA. I've tried it at the range several times. Works like a charm. |
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On 12/18/14 11:35 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/18/2014 8:13 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:39:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:30:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. Which part bothers you, the fact that it is striker fired or that it is DAO? Actually it is fairly common that DAO SAs don't have a safety. It is the same theory as why revolvers don't have safeties. My Ruger doesn't either. You simply decock it when you are not actively shooting. That is part of my regular drill, starting at retention, finger on the slide, firing 2 quick rounds and returning to retention, finger on the slide, while decocking. I have just built the muscle memory so it is instinctive. === You decock the hammer with a round in the chamber? What if? One of the pistols I had or have (maybe it's the Walther?) has a safety but they call it a "decocker". I *think* you are supposed to be able to decock it without firing a round that may be loaded but I've never trusted it to try it. May not be the Walther. I can't remember. I seem to prefer sidearms with visible hammers and traditional safeties. I wouldn't be adverse to another striker-fired pistol, but the only one I've seen lately that appeals is that Walther PPQ M2. Great trigger, even though it is double action only. |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 12:36:37 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 08:13:20 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:39:18 -0500, wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:30:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/17/14 8:25 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/16/14 10:39 PM, Califbill wrote: New gun for Harry. Shoot up a few thousand rounds quickly https://www.youtube.com/embed/L_D9weITWDI Please tell us, Bilious, why *this* would be a new "gun for Harry"? I've posted here a number of times that: 1. I don't much like fully auto firearms 2. I don't like striker-fired pistols 3. I don't like polymer pistols 4. I don't like semi-auto pistols without a traditional safety The first pistol I bought many years ago was a semi-auto Glock, and while I had no issues with it, I got rid of it about a year later and bought another 9 mm pistol, an all-steel one, with an ambi safety. I should amend this... I did get to fire and I do like the relatively new Walther PPQ M2, a 9 mm striker-fired pistol with a terrific trigger right out of the box, much better than the Glocks I have fired. No traditional safety, partly polymer, but still a really nice sidearm. Wouldn't mind owning one. Which part bothers you, the fact that it is striker fired or that it is DAO? Actually it is fairly common that DAO SAs don't have a safety. It is the same theory as why revolvers don't have safeties. My Ruger doesn't either. You simply decock it when you are not actively shooting. That is part of my regular drill, starting at retention, finger on the slide, firing 2 quick rounds and returning to retention, finger on the slide, while decocking. I have just built the muscle memory so it is instinctive. === You decock the hammer with a round in the chamber? What if? These newer DAs have a decock lever, where the safety would be. It blocks the firing pin and drops the hammer. It is scary the first time you do it tho. ;-) === Yes, but what if... ? I'd want to have some really safe place to point the gun while doing that. An accidental discharge can really ruin your entire day. |
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