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The town is getting a new facelift. It's now looking like a ghetto. Brilliant!

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 06:26:32 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

The town is getting a new facelift. It's now looking like a ghetto. Brilliant!

Looks like they're trying to emulate Detroit.

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On 11/25/2014 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
The town is getting a new facelift. It's now looking like a ghetto. Brilliant!


They spent three months preparing to riot instead of learning about the
American Justice system and the Grand Jury... they deserve it...

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On 11/25/2014 9:26 AM, Tim wrote:
The town is getting a new facelift. It's now looking like a ghetto. Brilliant!

And O'Bama is using it as a photo op. Where's the National Guard? Did
O'Bama forget to send them in?

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

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On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

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On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Your liberal arts education failed you, this is America and we don't
just put folks on trial to appease animals... the Grand Jury did it's
job, get over it...

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

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On 11/25/2014 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:




There are some things about the testimony of Wilson that don't make
sense unless another factor that hasn't been mentioned much is considered.


I haven't tried to wade through it. They dumped hundreds of pages
They do have blood evidence that Brown turned around and advanced
about 25 feet toward Wilson before the final shots.
They also have several witnesses who support Wilson's story but they
were not willing to be on TV out of fear of reprisal.


The autopsies indicated that cannabis was found in Brown's system
In the drug world, one type of "Blunt" is made by mixing pot and another
chemical .. PCP or formaldehyde is often mentioned ... and then stuffing
it all in a small cigar and smoking it.

According to medical reports, this can cause a sense of invincibility in
some people. You could be shot and still keep coming.

Pot+PCP= Superman

None of this has been mentioned to my knowledge other than the fact that
pot was found in his system.



PCP does make you feel invincible BTDT. I have not done it often but I
did try some one day on my motorcycle. Not a good combination. After
catching myself doing some incredible stuff, I sat it out a few hours.
Pass a car on a curve with a car coming ... ah there is plenty of
room.

I really thought that was an 70s-80s thing tho. I have not heard
anyone talk about "killer" for 30 years ... but I may jut be hanging
out in a better crowd.
It was always a biker thing more than your general stoners, that and
crank.
Even in the 70s, dust was more likely to be used to pep up some
ragweed than as a thing itself, except for those biker guys. They put
pure PCP on parsley flakes and smoked it in a regular cigarette with
the tobacco rolled out. That was how I got got. I thought it was a
regular joint and I only took one hit. That was all it took.


Oh and you get a heluva hangover. It is not something I would do on
purpose.



Most of the drugs now are X or meth based... all can leave you very
aggressive....

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On 11/25/2014 5:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

I'm much more concerned about police thuggery in this country, to wit:
the seemingly daily deadly police shootings and beatings of unarmed
civilians. The police are out of control.

Nice harrytale. You try to kill a cop, he will probably kill you, the
stupid bitch deserved it... period.



I don't disagree but, as usual they picked a bad case to hang their
hat on.

You don't disagree that "daily deadly police shootings..." LOL, time to
step back Greg...


It is like Zimmerman. There were far better stand your ground cases to
highlight but they picked a losing case and got mad when they lost.

Well, maybe not as many as you think othewise why would they keep
hanging their hats on rabid animals getting put down?

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:45:53 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:38:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:




There are some things about the testimony of Wilson that don't make
sense unless another factor that hasn't been mentioned much is considered.


I haven't tried to wade through it. They dumped hundreds of pages
They do have blood evidence that Brown turned around and advanced
about 25 feet toward Wilson before the final shots.
They also have several witnesses who support Wilson's story but they
were not willing to be on TV out of fear of reprisal.


The autopsies indicated that cannabis was found in Brown's system
In the drug world, one type of "Blunt" is made by mixing pot and another
chemical .. PCP or formaldehyde is often mentioned ... and then stuffing
it all in a small cigar and smoking it.

According to medical reports, this can cause a sense of invincibility in
some people. You could be shot and still keep coming.

Pot+PCP= Superman

None of this has been mentioned to my knowledge other than the fact that
pot was found in his system.



PCP does make you feel invincible BTDT. I have not done it often but I
did try some one day on my motorcycle. Not a good combination. After
catching myself doing some incredible stuff, I sat it out a few hours.
Pass a car on a curve with a car coming ... ah there is plenty of
room.

I really thought that was an 70s-80s thing tho. I have not heard
anyone talk about "killer" for 30 years ... but I may jut be hanging
out in a better crowd.
It was always a biker thing more than your general stoners, that and
crank.
Even in the 70s, dust was more likely to be used to pep up some
ragweed than as a thing itself, except for those biker guys. They put
pure PCP on parsley flakes and smoked it in a regular cigarette with
the tobacco rolled out. That was how I got got. I thought it was a
regular joint and I only took one hit. That was all it took.


Oh and you get a heluva hangover. It is not something I would do on
purpose.


Obviously you weren't riding a Moto Guzzi. That sounds really strange
to me.

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On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

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On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:58:22 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/25/14 4:54 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:48:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

The lawyers on CNN are saying that if anything the prosecutor put more
than the normal amount of testimony into evidence, Normally they don't
really introduce anything that does not advance their theory of the
case in a normal indictment.
They did say that was not unusual on a police shooting case.

Justice was not what these people wanted. They just wanted a
conviction and due process was not supposed to enter into it.



Grand juries indict. Juries convict.

Mostly true, except that around here you libs had the guy convicted
well before the grand jury began deliberating. Perhaps you don't
recall. Seems like you folks did a similar thing here a while back.

So you should have said:

Grand juries indict. Juries and liberals convict.

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On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.

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On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..

Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLlDzWt7TPc

Stupid slug should pull up his pants and get Sharptons dick out of his
mouth...

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.

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On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..


I am not a lawyer. Are there any laws against publicly saying:

"I hope somebody shoots Sharpton soon..."

that you just posted a few minutes ago?

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On 11/25/2014 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


Agreed. Explain that to your buddy Scott.

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On 11/25/2014 4:58 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 4:54 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:48:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

The lawyers on CNN are saying that if anything the prosecutor put more
than the normal amount of testimony into evidence, Normally they don't
really introduce anything that does not advance their theory of the
case in a normal indictment.
They did say that was not unusual on a police shooting case.

Justice was not what these people wanted. They just wanted a
conviction and due process was not supposed to enter into it.



Grand juries indict. Juries convict.

Zimmerman was denied due process and a grand jury

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In article ,
says...


This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.


I didn't see anything wrong with the "due process."
The DA saw no reason to prosecute, so he gave it to a grand jury.
THEY saw no reason to prosecute. There were 3-4 blacks on that jury and
they came to a unanimous decision.
If the Feds see a reason to prosecute, so be it.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.

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On 11/25/2014 6:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.


I didn't see anything wrong with the "due process."
The DA saw no reason to prosecute, so he gave it to a grand jury.
THEY saw no reason to prosecute. There were 3-4 blacks on that jury and
they came to a unanimous decision.
If the Feds see a reason to prosecute, so be it.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

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On 11/25/2014 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


Listen... here's my tin hat math. Sharpton and the parents got in with
the Communist Party, New Black Panther Pussies, and a Hamas party rep
who glorifies cop killing on his FB page... This of course is part of an
ongoing theme from kallege to govt provided child care to make sure cops
second guess themselves before they shoot, with the intent of allowing
more cops to be injured or killed... They brought in their own
terrorists last week to teach grade school kids how to protest and
incite litigation. This is what Ferguson wanted, and they got it... I
wish however they would just go back to sniping looters, that would slow
them down a lot...

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On 11/25/2014 6:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


This isn't the forum to admit this but I have to agree with Ben Crump
and Al Sharpton (hell just froze over) that the way this was handled by
the prosecuting attorney with the Grand Jury wasn't right.


I didn't see anything wrong with the "due process."
The DA saw no reason to prosecute, so he gave it to a grand jury.
THEY saw no reason to prosecute. There were 3-4 blacks on that jury and
they came to a unanimous decision.
If the Feds see a reason to prosecute, so be it.

Doesn't justify the violence and burnings for sure. I think some people
look for any excuse for violence, looting and destruction of property.

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.


He has about as much class and credibility as those who watch msnbc...

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:36:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

===

At least he's trying to pay them off.

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On 11/25/2014 7:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:36:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

And Crump and Sharpton will make excuses for it. Crying about the legal
process is one of them. I don't know how the hell Sharpton has a show
on MSNBC. It's ridiculous.



He needs the income to pay off back taxes.

===

At least he's trying to pay them off.


From what I heard, he isn't.. but he isn't being prosecuted because
indeed, there is a double standard in the US Justice System, if you are
black you get a break...

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On 11/25/2014 8:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:24:13 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:


I thought the schools were closed anyway.

Wednesday to Sunday for Thanksgiving. They were open today.


This is getting comical. Now the family and the news agencies are asking
why they did it at night, as if it matters anyway. All they wanted for
for honest citizens to get caught up in with the wild dogs so they could
kill a few innocents for the cameras...

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On 11/25/2014 8:46 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:37:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.

He is very close to vested in his pension... I think within a year or
so... Bet "the media" didn't mention that but of course why would they,
it doesn't fit the "news" they are making up. :)

I imagine he could disappear in a big city department if he wanted to
but he may be done with the cop biz for personal reasons.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

Very likely, the real question is whether sovereign immunity will
shield him from a civil action.


Well, unless somebody else does it I may have to start a go fund me for
the guy like I did my bud after Sandy. I think it would be nice if it
went viral and the guy ended up with a couple million to disappear with...

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On 11/25/2014 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:24:04 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Usually the union would force them to keep him on the payroll until he
was actually convicted, not just charged.

Harry's lib arts degree failed him, he doesn't know how the crim justice
system works...

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

In the grand scheme of police shootings, this is as justifiable as any
I have seen. Most just involve a cop who shot a guy for a "furtive
move" or a shiny object.
Like Zimmerman, they may have had a valid beef with the process but
they hitched the wagon to the wrong horse. This was not the case they
should have pursued.
When you start with a guy who is walking away from a strong arm
robbery, then he assaults an officer (neither in dispute) it is not
the most sympathetic victim when that officer shoots him.


Unless he's black and useless...

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On 11/25/2014 9:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.



Neither was the Mormon Tabernacle Choir but like the Nat Guard, they
were not needed or useful there with their strategdy, they are not
police.. Even tonight, they are there for logistics, and traffic
control, the Police take care of the crims.... it had nothing to do with
black or white, unless of course someone is looking to make things
racial...

Nixon was taking heat for calling them up at all. I am not surprised
he kept them away from the protests.

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On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:10:59 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


And of course, both the cops and the national guard have experience
shooting unarmed civilians.

And of course, you have experience shooting off your mouth with no intellectual content.

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On 11/25/2014 9:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:41:11 -0500, KC wrote:

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070


Maybe the business owners who were burned out should sue him.


They wouldn't get anything from the cockroach... So sad today seeing the
black store owner crying over his lifes work being destroyed. Bet MSNBC
won't show that one...

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On 11/25/2014 9:31 PM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:10:59 PM UTC-8, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 6:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:45:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.


As they should *not* have been. They freed up the cops to do the job
cops, not the National Guard, are trained to do.

Good call.


And of course, both the cops and the national guard have experience
shooting unarmed civilians.

And of course, you have experience shooting off your mouth with no intellectual content.

****kin' harry, every time he disappears I check the obits to see if
it's time to visit my daughter and hand out my book at his funeral... It
will be like Cosby, when I'm done, rec.boats is all anybody will
remember him for:)

Remodeling Ferguson
 

wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 16:37:44 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 4:24 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.



Nope it's not and I agree he was a punk. Or high as a kite.

According to the media, Wilson has been negotiating his resignation
anyway. There's no way he could ever remain a cop in Ferguson or
probably in any other city. He's paying a price.


I imagine he could disappear in a big city department if he wanted to
but he may be done with the cop biz for personal reasons.

Not sure if he would be personally responsible for his legal defense if
it had gone straight to a trial or had the GJ indited him. I suspect
his union would cover his legal costs.

Very likely, the real question is whether sovereign immunity will
shield him from a civil action.

It would be interesting if Wilson counter sued the family and the people
putting up,the money, for raising a thug who put Wilson in th hospital.
That video of the strong arm robbery shortly before will be introduced in a
civil trial.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.

Probably a very smart move. Would be the 60's again and Watts, Dayton,
etc.

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:55:07 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

===

If Wilson had been indicted he would have automatically lost his job
and been responsible for his own legal defense cost, which would be
considerable.

Putting yourself in Wilson's shoes for a minute, how would you react
if a punk kid (and he was a punk) reached into your car window,
punched you, and tried to grab your gun? That's not a very good
opening scenario for a peaceful resolution.

I think the city would still be on the hook for defense costs. He was an
employee at the time.

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On 11/25/2014 10:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/25/2014 5:25 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


For Harrold ... the National Guard *was* called in by the Governor.
They protected the new police station located in the white section of
town.


They protected the main control ops station for the riots like anybody
with a brain would. "White section" is just apologist bull****... People
like dick won't be happy till white cops stand up on a firing squad for
the thugs...


Unless CNN is making up stories again, Ferguson has a newly built police
station that is located in the predominately white section of town.
That's where the Guard was last night.

The Guard was *not* deployed to the predominately black section of town.

It wasn't deployed to Phoenix either, because police work was not what
they were there for...

Probably a very smart move. Would be the 60's again and Watts, Dayton,
etc.

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On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:13:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..


I am not a lawyer. Are there any laws against publicly saying:

"I hope somebody shoots Sharpton soon..."

that you just posted a few minutes ago?

Most likely not. Toad has been wishing such things around here for
years. Don't suppose you've noticed.

Remodeling Ferguson
 

Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:13:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..


I am not a lawyer. Are there any laws against publicly saying:

"I hope somebody shoots Sharpton soon..."

that you just posted a few minutes ago?

Most likely not. Toad has been wishing such things around here for
years. Don't suppose you've noticed.

Bull****.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

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On 11/26/2014 3:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:13:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all, including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section 574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for whites..


I am not a lawyer. Are there any laws against publicly saying:

"I hope somebody shoots Sharpton soon..."

that you just posted a few minutes ago?

Most likely not. Toad has been wishing such things around here for
years. Don't suppose you've noticed.


Lucky I am not looking to get a permit huh, dick would be the first one
snitching me out, a typical liberal thing to do.... You have to
remember, he thinks himself above most here, we are just a toy for him...

Remodeling Ferguson
 

On 11/26/2014 4:20 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/26/2014 3:51 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:13:00 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:41 PM, KC wrote:

On 11/25/2014 5:28 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 11/25/2014 3:55 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The violence in Ferguson was unfortunate, but I understand that when
people feel locked out of "the system" and without a voice, they
sometimes react that way. It would have been better for all,
including
Wilson, had he been indicted, tried and found not guilty if that is
where the evidence pointed.

Where do you think the evidence pointed?

It doesn't matter this is America, we have laws, this is how the law
works.. unless you're black?

Here, see if blacks are held accountable. There is clear video of
Browns
step father advocating a riot...

Promoting Civil Disorder is a Class C Felony in Missouri. Section
574.070

If he doesn't get busted, **** 'em all... laws are not just for
whites..


I am not a lawyer. Are there any laws against publicly saying:

"I hope somebody shoots Sharpton soon..."

that you just posted a few minutes ago?

Who posted that? you would have to get a warrant for eternal-september
to prove that. Here's a hint, ain't gonna' happen... I do know though
that somebody (say, some snivveling snitch) attributing that
definitively to someone in particular could be a legal problem..


Most likely not. Toad has been wishing such things around here for
years. Don't suppose you've noticed.


Lucky I am not looking to get a permit huh, dick would be the first one
snitching me out, a typical liberal thing to do.... You have to
remember, he thinks himself above most here, we are just a toy for him...