On 11/25/2014 4:38 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 4:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:37:03 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:53:46 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 08:32:33 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

My big interest would be to improve steadiness while shooting.
Seems like the laser light might be a good route.

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The first thing to understand about steadiness is that no one else is
steady either. You have to work around it and try for brief moments
when you can squeeze off the round.

I thought Toad could hold perfectly steady for five minutes or so. He
must be doing something really special if he can easily outshoot every
cop in Calvert County!

Thanks for the info.

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If Toad could monetize bull**** he'd be a gazillionaire.


Probably not as lucrative as a retired bankster running guns and drugs
in the Carib, though, right W'hine?

Shouldn't you have used a period instead of a comma, after "though".

On 11/25/14 7:39 PM, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:05:09 -0500, Harrold wrote:


If you take a 4 inch barrel and a known caliber, you should be able to
calculate how far off the laser could be and still be able to project
onto a target 25 feet away without being blocked by the barrel. I doubt
it could be off by a foot at 25 feet..

it is 13.3875" for a .38/9mm (.357"/2 x75) give or take a land or
groove at the muzzle.


Yeah, a foot is a bit much. I was just playing with a laser pointer.
At about 20 feet a very, very slight push lateral push on the end moved
the spot about 3 or 4 inches. Not a very scientific test but puts it
roughly in the ballpark.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/25/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:05:09 -0500, Harrold wrote:


If you take a 4 inch barrel and a known caliber, you should be able to
calculate how far off the laser could be and still be able to project
onto a target 25 feet away without being blocked by the barrel. I doubt
it could be off by a foot at 25 feet..

it is 13.3875" for a .38/9mm (.357"/2 x75) give or take a land or
groove at the muzzle.


I've got a scope on my AR15/22 and it took me about a dozen shots to set
it up for 50 yards and then just a shot or two for 100 yards. I found it
trickier to sight in a scope than a red dot. Amazingly (well, I think it
is...), with the red dot I put on my Win '92, I was only an inch off at
50 yards with my first two shots. I'm shooting under 2" groups with my
HBAR AR on a bag at 100 yards and I think I can do better. I use my cheap
"tricked up" reader eyeglasses with my Ruger revolver and do pretty good
with it at up to 25 yards with the stock "iron" sights. I've used up all
my .38 Special rounds now, and won't be buying any more. Strictly .357
MAG for the revolver and the Win .92 from now on.




A red dot is only for fast target acquisition. So a lot easier to get on
paper.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:39:50 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:05:09 -0500, Harrold wrote:


If you take a 4 inch barrel and a known caliber, you should be able to
calculate how far off the laser could be and still be able to project
onto a target 25 feet away without being blocked by the barrel. I doubt
it could be off by a foot at 25 feet..

it is 13.3875" for a .38/9mm (.357"/2 x75) give or take a land or
groove at the muzzle.

Did you use 4" or 4" minus the length of the laser holder.

:)

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:47:26 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:58:18 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 11/25/14 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:05:09 -0500, Harrold wrote:


If you take a 4 inch barrel and a known caliber, you should be able to
calculate how far off the laser could be and still be able to project
onto a target 25 feet away without being blocked by the barrel. I doubt
it could be off by a foot at 25 feet..

it is 13.3875" for a .38/9mm (.357"/2 x75) give or take a land or
groove at the muzzle.


I've got a scope on my AR15/22 and it took me about a dozen shots to set
it up for 50 yards and then just a shot or two for 100 yards. I found it
trickier to sight in a scope than a red dot. Amazingly (well, I think it
is...), with the red dot I put on my Win '92, I was only an inch off at
50 yards with my first two shots. I'm shooting under 2" groups with my
HBAR AR on a bag at 100 yards and I think I can do better. I use my
cheap "tricked up" reader eyeglasses with my Ruger revolver and do
pretty good with it at up to 25 yards with the stock "iron" sights. I've
used up all my .38 Special rounds now, and won't be buying any more.
Strictly .357 MAG for the revolver and the Win .92 from now on.

I had a laser on my .45 and I took it off. It was more of a
distraction than a help.

I've seen a few lasers almost being used at the range. It's indoors,
so they're very easy to spot. The scenario has always been the same:
The laser hits the target, bounces all around and then goes out, never
to return. I think the user just gets embarrassed at how much movement
is showing up with the laser.