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Poco Loco November 18th 14 10:15 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 

Sometime this year, we taxpayers will again receive another 'Economic
Stimulus' payment.


This is indeed a very exciting program, and I'll explain it by using a
Q & A format:



Q. What is an 'Economic Stimulus' payment ?


A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.



Q.Where will the government get this money ?


A. From taxpayers.



Q. So the government is giving me back my own money ?


A. Only a smidgen of it.



Q. What is the purpose of this payment ?


A. The plan is for you to use the money to purchase a;high-definition
TV set, thus stimulating the economy.



Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China ?


A. Shut up.



Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the U.S. Economy by
spending your stimulus check wisely:



* If you spend the stimulus money at Wal-Mart, the money will ;go to
China or Sri Lanka .



* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



* If you purchase a computer, it will go to India , Taiwan or;China ..



* If you purchase fruit and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras
and Guatemala ..



* If you buy a fuel efficient car, it will go to Japan or Korea


* If you purchase useless stuff, it will go to Taiwan .


* If you pay your credit cards off, or buy stock, it will go ;to
management bonuses and they will hide it offshore.


Instead, keep the money in America by:


1) Spending it at yard sales, or


2) Going to ball games, or


3) Spending it on prostitutes, or


4) Beer or


5) Tattoos.


(These are the only American businesses still operating in the U.S.)


Conclusion:


Go to a ball game with a tattooed prostitute that you met at a yard
;sale and drink beer all day !



No need to thank me, I'm just glad I could be of help.







--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

RGrew176 November 19th 14 09:46 AM

Yeah, but today the dems in the senate did not learn anything from the recent election. This will be Landreu's swan song.

RGrew176 November 19th 14 09:48 AM

Yeah, but today the senate voted down the Keystone Pipeline. Guess they did not learn any lesson from the recent election. Looks like Landreu will be going down the the runoff election next month.

Poco Loco November 19th 14 12:31 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:24:06 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !


That works. Go to a NASCAR race with a tattooed prostitute that you
met at a yard sale and drink beer all day! Better than a baseball game
anyway.

Harrold November 19th 14 01:54 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 7:31 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:24:06 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !


That works. Go to a NASCAR race with a tattooed prostitute that you
met at a yard sale and drink beer all day! Better than a baseball game
anyway.


Better, except if you'd rather watch a bunch of furriners standing
around scratching their balls and spitting tobacco juice. "Ball 4" walk
yee bastaad, and get some exercise. ;-)

amdx[_3_] November 19th 14 04:38 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.




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F*O*A*D November 19th 14 04:49 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/14 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.





I'm surprised you righties like NASCAR so much, what with the cars only
turning left.




--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

Califbill November 19th 14 05:05 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/19/14 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.





I'm surprised you righties like NASCAR so much, what with the cars only turning left.





They make some right turns on some tracks.

KC November 19th 14 06:14 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.




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I think they were more talking about the spectators... Liberals in
congress think NASCAR fans are dirty...

KC November 19th 14 06:15 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 12:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/19/14 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.





I'm surprised you righties like NASCAR so much, what with the cars only turning left.


They don't just turn left, what's with asking stupid questions about
something you know little about, and care less about?




They make some right turns on some tracks.



F*O*A*D November 19th 14 07:27 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/14 1:15 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/19/2014 12:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/19/14 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as
models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in
the US.





I'm surprised you righties like NASCAR so much, what with the cars
only turning left.


They don't just turn left, what's with asking stupid questions about
something you know little about, and care less about?




They make some right turns on some tracks.



I went to a Daytona 500 some decades ago. All the turns around the track
were towards the left. Not my favorite kind of motor racing.

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

F*O*A*D November 19th 14 07:28 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/14 2:03 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 07:31:12 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:24:06 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !


That works. Go to a NASCAR race with a tattooed prostitute that you
met at a yard sale and drink beer all day! Better than a baseball game
anyway.


I think the whole idea is good except the prostitute part. I will take
my wife and spoil her with American made gifts ;-)


Herring apparently gets his dates at yard sales

--
Just because you are opposed to abortion doesn’t make you pro-life. Your
morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a
child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed, not a child
clothed, not a child able to see the doctor. That’s not pro-life…that’s
pro-birth.

KC November 19th 14 07:46 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 2:09 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:38:40 -0600, amdx wrote:

On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in the US.


NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...

Wayne.B November 20th 14 01:06 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...


===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?

KC November 20th 14 01:11 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...


===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


Wow, good question... I think sometime back in the 80's. If you want to
see something closer to "stock cars" there are several new forms of
racing designed to be more limited in modifications, such as the truck
racing and local stuff like "late model sportsman" divisions. Like I
said, many of these are more limited in order to allow folks to race
that don't have a quarter million a week for an engine..

Mr. Luddite November 20th 14 01:53 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...


===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


I think the original era of true stock car racing ended in the early
70's. That's when all kinds of rules, regulations, and restrictions
began to become imposed.

I liked it in it's original days. A 390 ci or 427 ci Ford Galaxie was
pretty much what you could buy at the dealership. Same with the 426
hemi "elephant" used in the Plymouths and the 421 ci Pontiac designed
specifically for the stock car racing circuit.

No interest in today's NASCAR racing. It's all about the drivers now,
not the cars.

Well, maybe except for Danica Patrick. :-)

NASCAR racing got it's start from the moonshine runners of the 30's.



[email protected] November 20th 14 03:00 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:14:54 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

No need to thank me, I'm just glad I could be of help.



If you weren't such a uninformed, stupid backwood ****, you'd be ok.

[email protected] November 20th 14 03:03 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:24:11 PM UTC-5, wrote:
The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.



Too bad that if the Keystone Pipeline is built, it will wind up like the Arab Pipelines, or the one in Alberta....being attacked.

The US is NOT an "Energy Exporter"...it buys Hydro off of Quebec, cheaper than we Canadians can get it.

Suck ****.

[email protected] November 20th 14 03:04 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:31:10 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

That works. Go to a NASCAR race with a tattooed prostitute that you
met at a yard sale and drink beer all day! Better than a baseball game
anyway.


The above is greasy herrings fantasy. Must have ****ed a lot of Vietnamese whores while over in the Vietnam War.

KC November 20th 14 03:12 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 10:03 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:24:11 PM UTC-5, wrote:
The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.



Too bad that if the Keystone Pipeline is built, it will wind up like the Arab Pipelines, or the one in Alberta....being attacked.

The US is NOT an "Energy Exporter"...it buys Hydro off of Quebec, cheaper than we Canadians can get it.

Suck ****.


Already over 3 million miles of oil pipeline in the US... so this will
not add that much more of a target.

[email protected] November 20th 14 03:47 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:13:04 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:

Already over 3 million miles of oil pipeline in the US... so this will
not add that much more of a target.


In Canada it is.... and will.

KC November 20th 14 03:54 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/19/2014 10:47 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:13:04 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:

Already over 3 million miles of oil pipeline in the US... so this will
not add that much more of a target.


In Canada it is.... and will.


Canada has welcomed with open arms the folks we are trying to keep out
of the US, mostly to stick a thumb in the eyes of the US. Unfortunately,
it may just bite your country in the ass...

Califbill November 20th 14 04:20 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/19/14 1:15 PM, KC wrote:
On 11/19/2014 12:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 11/19/14 11:38 AM, amdx wrote:
On 11/18/2014 5:24 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:15:05 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

* If you spend it on gasoline, your money will go to the Arabs.



That is not really true these days. The US is very close to Carter's
goal of making the US energy independent. The only glitch is oil
itself, overall, with nat gas exports, we are "net" energy
independent. The Keystone pipeline would actually make us a net energy
exporter again.

That fact is not lost on the arabs and it is apparent at the pump
today.

Actually when I look at who plays ball these days, that is not a "buy
American" plan either.
Go to a NASCAR race !

Several years ago before Toyata was part of Nascar there was debate
on the whether a Japanese car should be allowed. The cars used as
models
for Nascar stock cars then were the Chevrolet Monte Carlo built in
Canada, the Ford Fusion built Mexico and the car in question was the
Camry built in Tennessee.
Mikek


PS. I could have some facts wrong but the point that is, both the Ford
and Chevy were built in other countries and the Camry was built in
the US.





I'm surprised you righties like NASCAR so much, what with the cars
only turning left.


They don't just turn left, what's with asking stupid questions about
something you know little about, and care less about?




They make some right turns on some tracks.



I went to a Daytona 500 some decades ago. All the turns around the track
were towards the left. Not my favorite kind of motor racing.



Turning to the left? Has to make you gloriously happy.

Califbill November 20th 14 07:15 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:06:26 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...


===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


The 60s.
I remember when I could still drag race in a "show room stock" class
but that didn't last long. By 1970 all racing was highly refined
special purpose machines.
We used to see lots of cars drag racing in the 60s with tags on them.
I was competitive in my regular beater Chevelle in 1967 but I never
actually won I was getting low 14s tho with a 327.

I had an IBM friend who did a lot of SCCA in cars he drove to work.
(English cars)

Alas those days are gone


I raced a B production 1964 Corvette in SCCA in the 60-70's. Was
originally pretty close to stock, and by 1974, was tube frames, Greenwood
bodies, etc. went from a $6000 competitive Vette to an $60k++ Vette for
competitive.

Mr. Luddite November 20th 14 08:07 AM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/20/2014 1:13 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/19/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...

===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


I think the original era of true stock car racing ended in the early
70's. That's when all kinds of rules, regulations, and restrictions
began to become imposed.

I liked it in it's original days. A 390 ci or 427 ci Ford Galaxie was
pretty much what you could buy at the dealership. Same with the 426
hemi "elephant" used in the Plymouths and the 421 ci Pontiac designed
specifically for the stock car racing circuit.

No interest in today's NASCAR racing. It's all about the drivers now,
not the cars.

Well, maybe except for Danica Patrick. :-)

NASCAR racing got it's start from the moonshine runners of the 30's.


Danica probably got more women watching than anything since the racy
Jeff Gordon posters.
Actually the only person I know with a full height Gordon poster is a
gay guy in the neighborhood ... but I am not judging ;-)

My wife will still watch a NASCAR race if Danica is running.
We record it and blast through most of it tho.

Back in the 60s, my 327 325HP slid under a class line that made me
very competitive. With a 456 rear end I was running with just about
anything but a 440 Dodge and some of the 426 Hemis. They were still
not in my class. If they had tall gears, they couldn't catch me in a
quarter. About 105-108 I ran out of RPMs and the valves started to
float.
Next time I went with 308 in my Corvette on a special order and it
would do a solid 145 with a stopwatch in measured miles. The speedo
was 160+. I was also getting 25 MPG or more if I could keep my foot
put of it. That didn't happen much tho.
They really didn't have a speed limit on the beltway in those days, at
least not at night.


The old muscle cars from the 60's really make you realize how refined
cars are today, both in their engines and in their suspension/handling
systems. That said though, there's still something really cool about
the relatively low RPM, high torque engines of the muscle car era.

The '69 Charger I had originally had a tired 383 ci. It needed a valve
job and rings and most of the time only ran on 6 or 7 cylinders. I took
it to a speed shop garage who's owner was into racing and they replaced
it with a rebuilt 440 ci that had a mild cam in it along with other
performance items including electronic ignition. They also rebuilt the
transmission and installed a "shift kit" whatever that is. Turned that
car into a beast as long you were going in a straight line.

Poco Loco November 20th 14 12:19 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:13:01 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/19/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...

===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


I think the original era of true stock car racing ended in the early
70's. That's when all kinds of rules, regulations, and restrictions
began to become imposed.

I liked it in it's original days. A 390 ci or 427 ci Ford Galaxie was
pretty much what you could buy at the dealership. Same with the 426
hemi "elephant" used in the Plymouths and the 421 ci Pontiac designed
specifically for the stock car racing circuit.

No interest in today's NASCAR racing. It's all about the drivers now,
not the cars.

Well, maybe except for Danica Patrick. :-)

NASCAR racing got it's start from the moonshine runners of the 30's.


Danica probably got more women watching than anything since the racy
Jeff Gordon posters.
Actually the only person I know with a full height Gordon poster is a
gay guy in the neighborhood ... but I am not judging ;-)

My wife will still watch a NASCAR race if Danica is running.
We record it and blast through most of it tho.

Back in the 60s, my 327 325HP slid under a class line that made me
very competitive. With a 456 rear end I was running with just about
anything but a 440 Dodge and some of the 426 Hemis. They were still
not in my class. If they had tall gears, they couldn't catch me in a
quarter. About 105-108 I ran out of RPMs and the valves started to
float.
Next time I went with 308 in my Corvette on a special order and it
would do a solid 145 with a stopwatch in measured miles. The speedo
was 160+. I was also getting 25 MPG or more if I could keep my foot
put of it. That didn't happen much tho.
They really didn't have a speed limit on the beltway in those days, at
least not at night.


There are some motorcyclists here who still believe that - day or
night. A pack will take off from one exit, and whoever gets back first
wins the beer, or whatever. They've come around me doing way over 100
whipping in and out of lanes.

Never saw one on a Moto Guzzi though, nor a Harley.

Harrold November 20th 14 02:29 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On 11/20/2014 7:19 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:13:01 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 20:53:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/19/2014 8:06 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2014 14:46:05 -0500, KC wrote:

NASCAR has virtually nothing to do with real cars. They use a custom
body with a shape "inspired" by a production car but there is nothing
but the logo that is actually common between them.
These things are built more like airplanes than cars


That's why they don't call 'em 'stock cars' anymore...

===

Interesting point. When did they stop calling it stock car racing?


I think the original era of true stock car racing ended in the early
70's. That's when all kinds of rules, regulations, and restrictions
began to become imposed.

I liked it in it's original days. A 390 ci or 427 ci Ford Galaxie was
pretty much what you could buy at the dealership. Same with the 426
hemi "elephant" used in the Plymouths and the 421 ci Pontiac designed
specifically for the stock car racing circuit.

No interest in today's NASCAR racing. It's all about the drivers now,
not the cars.

Well, maybe except for Danica Patrick. :-)

NASCAR racing got it's start from the moonshine runners of the 30's.


Danica probably got more women watching than anything since the racy
Jeff Gordon posters.
Actually the only person I know with a full height Gordon poster is a
gay guy in the neighborhood ... but I am not judging ;-)

My wife will still watch a NASCAR race if Danica is running.
We record it and blast through most of it tho.

Back in the 60s, my 327 325HP slid under a class line that made me
very competitive. With a 456 rear end I was running with just about
anything but a 440 Dodge and some of the 426 Hemis. They were still
not in my class. If they had tall gears, they couldn't catch me in a
quarter. About 105-108 I ran out of RPMs and the valves started to
float.
Next time I went with 308 in my Corvette on a special order and it
would do a solid 145 with a stopwatch in measured miles. The speedo
was 160+. I was also getting 25 MPG or more if I could keep my foot
put of it. That didn't happen much tho.
They really didn't have a speed limit on the beltway in those days, at
least not at night.


There are some motorcyclists here who still believe that - day or
night. A pack will take off from one exit, and whoever gets back first
wins the beer, or whatever. They've come around me doing way over 100
whipping in and out of lanes.

Never saw one on a Moto Guzzi though, nor a Harley.

Do you think our little Harry might have been in the pack? He has one of
those racy little Italian bikes.

Wayne.B November 20th 14 03:42 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 09:29:02 -0500, Harrold wrote:

Do you think our little Harry might have been in the pack? He has one of
those racy little Italian bikes.


===

Likely story.

[email protected] November 20th 14 11:55 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:54:43 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:
On 11/19/2014 10:47 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 10:13:04 PM UTC-5, KC wrote:

Already over 3 million miles of oil pipeline in the US... so this will
not add that much more of a target.


In Canada it is.... and will.


Canada has welcomed with open arms the folks we are trying to keep out
of the US, mostly to stick a thumb in the eyes of the US. Unfortunately,
it may just bite your country in the ass...


Read up on the current events of the Gas " pipeline " in Alberta. It seems someone likes to shoot it with a high-powered rifle.

[email protected] November 20th 14 11:58 PM

The Economic Stimulus defined...
 
On Thursday, November 20, 2014 12:56:12 AM UTC-5, wrote:

The 60s.
I remember when I could still drag race in a "show room stock" class
but that didn't last long. By 1970 all racing was highly refined
special purpose machines.
We used to see lots of cars drag racing in the 60s with tags on them.
I was competitive in my regular beater Chevelle in 1967 but I never
actually won I was getting low 14s tho with a 327.

I had an IBM friend who did a lot of SCCA in cars he drove to work.
(English cars)

Alas those days are gone


Too bad Drag Racing has been ruined by the idea of shortening the distance to be covered. Total bull****.

I seldom watch it anymore. Wally Parks is an asshole whom I wish would ****ing die.


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