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On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:58:54 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/29/2014 7:40 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/29/2014 2:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:44:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2014 5:57 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:37:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:23:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: $35 every three years doesn't sound onerous to me. We pay $100 for six years up here. Free if 70 or over. Per gun? Eeek! You will love Florida LOL ... no The $100 is for the license or renewal every 6 years. You can own as many guns as you want. The registration process allows the state to monitor how many you buy and sell though and they might investigate if they suspect you are an unlicensed dealer. I didn't take John's $35 (for three years) as being a fee per gun. It's just for the fingerprinting. As I said, you missed the fee per gun part. What was it, $13 bucks or something? I don't have a problem with that. I expect not. You wouldn't have a problem with $1300/gun, but it would sure be an infringement on the right of many, including me, to own a firearm, wouldn't it? Would it require a change in the Constitution to pass such a law in a city, county, or state? Who said I wouldn't have a problem at $1,300 per gun? You did. Not me. $13 bucks every three years to cover the cost of having reasonable gun registration and controls doesn't seem crazy to me. $1,300 does. We pay $50 (per vehicle) every two years to keep car registrations current. We pay $100 every six years to keep our gun permits current and valid. All we are talking about are *reasonable* controls to address gun safety and ownership concerns in the 21st Century. Citing the 2nd Amendment and refusing to consider any laws or rules that make the rest of the population feel more comfortable doesn't make sense. What's the going rate for 18 holes of golf? $25-$30 bucks? What's the going rate for a full hookup at a campsite? Seems you are willing to pay for what you enjoy. Cars are not a constitutionally protected item. $$ every couple years to keep your guns? More like a poll tax to vote. True, but I see the whole thing differently. There is much concern and controversy surrounding firearm ownership now-a-days, some with good reason. Some anti-gun people and groups advocate the ban on them altogether and continue to challenge the "meaning" of the 2nd Amendment. We don't live in the 17 or 18 hundreds. Trying to defend gun rights on the nuance and interpretation of the 2A wording may backfire someday with a more liberal Supreme Court. If that happens ... gun owners are screwed. Rather than dig in our heels and reject every attempt to put reasonable controls on gun ownership, why not try to understand the reasoning of others and be willing to compromise without giving away your rights? If you notice, the lack of compromise and willingness to respect other views/concerns on issues is at the core of a totally dysfunctional government. It's not how rational, mature people resolve an issue. I'll bet there is no one here unwilling to compromise on 'reasonable' gun controls. For example, I see nothing wrong with a law prohibiting the sale of 'fully automatic' weapons to the general public. And I have no problems with a background check, as long as the check isn't used at some later date to confiscate or take other action against me for gun ownership. Define 'reasonable'. That's the problem. When do 'reasonable gun controls' give away my rights? You say $1300/gun is 'unreasonable' and therefore couldn't happen. How about $273.94/gun every six years? Would that be 'unreasonable'? If we changed it to every three years? How about every year? Have you ever seen a 'tax' go away? I have. Last year I wrote emails and letters to the state and Governor in regards to the state parks charging $10/night/dog in a campsite. That cost me an extra $20/night. This year the state stopped adding the extra fee. I doubt my correspondence changed any minds, but it might have helped a bit. |
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