On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:56:29 -0400, KC wrote:

On 10/28/2014 1:03 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:37:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/28/2014 11:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:51:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/28/2014 10:24 AM, Tim wrote:

Richard, that's a good question. Actually there's nothing in law here in illinois about trigger locks. My sure about Cook county(Chicago) though. The only thing there is here is about transporting a firearm. They must be unloaded, in a case, bag, or even wrapped, and either locked in the trunk or if up front, be in plain visible sight. Nothing under the seat etc. pistols can be stored in a glove box but still must be secured in a case and unloaded.


Tim, are you sure about the lock requirement? It would be strange
since Illinois has some other laws governing firearms that follow some
of the more "progressive" thinking.

As for transporting, MA laws state that if you hold a Class A,
unrestricted concealed carry license, you can have a loaded handgun with
you in your car as long as it is "under your control". Means it can be
on your person or in a glove compartment or other area within reach ...
BUT ... it has to be out of sight (concealed). That's the license I
have but I very rarely carry anymore. I did when I was carrying lots of
cash when I had the guitar shop.

MA also issues (or did) a "Class B" license as well that required
transporting in a similar manner to your Illinois transport laws.

Transporting long guns is different however, even with the Class A
license. They must be transported unloaded and either in a lockable
container or have a trigger or chamber lock installed.

There are probably zillions of wild hogs where Tim lives. He needs to
keep something powerful quite handy.



I don't know where Tim lives. Laws establish a general rule butit
really comes down to common sense and being responsible. In my case, I
am not home all day and often my wife will have visitors with small
kids. I don't want a gun laying around for them to discover.

If I lived in some remote place with no neighbors, visitors or
unexpected people visiting, I might be less concerned.


No, I would not want a gun 'laying around' for a kid to discover.
There are several places in a typical home where a gun can be
'available' to the owner but be inaccessible to kids.


Dick is right. Not knowing where Tim lives (ie the neighborhood) we
really can't say. I mean, there are still places out there where folks
don't lock their doors because the adults and kids are brought up in a
manner where it's not a problem, could be that in Tims area, most kids
are more familiar with gun handling and care than the children of some
of our plastic bottle hunters here....

I expect Tim has enough experience with firearms to know what he's
doing. I also expect he doesn't get a lot of kids visiting his shop.
And besides, he said nothing about it being loaded.