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On 10/25/14 3:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/25/2014 3:04 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 2:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/25/2014 10:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 10:26 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/25/2014 10:14 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
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On 10/25/2014 7:34 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/25/14 5:59 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Hillary in Boston on Friday:

Now she's claiming that as a senator she voted to increase the
minimum
wage in 2007 and "millions" of jobs were created.

She neglected to mention that the only way the 2007 minimum wage
bill
was approved by the Senate was by offsetting the cost to
businesses by
providing additional tax breaks over the next 10 years.

Then she went on to say that corporations and businesses *don't*
create
jobs. Really?

If people like arrogance over competence in their leaders, vote
for
Hillary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nbFYP3xB6k

1. Indeed, she voted to raise the minimum wage.
2. Her point was that raising the minimum wage didn't cost jobs, as
opponents of such raises like to claim.
3. Her comment about corproations and businesses was directed at
the
Republican idea that "trickle down" economics works, and of
course, it
doesn't.

But, hey, nice try. The righties here will snap it up.

The House version of that bill passed with *all* Democrats voting
for it
along with 86 of the Republicans. It died in the Senate though
until it
was modified to include the tax breaks for businesses to offset the
cost
of higher wages. *That's* what she voted for. (of course a year
later
the whole thing didn't matter anymore).

Two sentences later though she reminds the Boston audience that
corporations and businesses don't create jobs. Why give them a tax
break then?

The minimum wage thing is always the issue that Democrats rely
upon to
garner votes. They are focusing on it again now. Then they bitch
about
corporations not paying their share of taxes after passing the bill
that
created tax breaks.

More of note though: Hillary is adopting the party line BS along
with
the tones of sarcasm and arrogance that liberals apparently find so
appealing.

We've had over 6 years of arrogant leadership. Do we need more?

As time goes by I am convinced more and more that only those who are
verifiable US citizens and who are 25 to 55 should be able to vote in
any election in the USA. If you are under 25 you haven't really got a
clue as to what is going on in the world and how it affects you and
once
you are over 55 all you want to do is make the rest of your life
comfortable on someone else's back. As far as non-US citizens go I
really don't care what they think, what they want or whether they are
happy.

Be careful of expressing any rational thoughts. They are not
welcome by
some here.

My brother's favorite saying:

"Republican while you work and a Democrat when you retire".

You think disenfranchising tens of millions of American voters is a
good
thing, eh? How very Republican of you.

Where did I say that?

Ahh, you stated that Bertbrain's idea to disenfranchise millions of
coters was a "rational thought," or at least you implied that.

I don't agree with it but that doesn't mean it's not a rational thought.

This country spends trillions (about 15 trillion since LBJ declared war
on poverty in 1964) to fight poverty and reduce reliance on welfare
programs. The results? The poverty level is the same as it was in 1964
and the payouts in welfare has risen over 700 percent.

It can't go on like this forever Harry. Greg pointed out that people 62
or over have "paid in" most of what they are going to and are likely to
vote for the person who "gives" them the most in benefits. Maybe. Maybe
not. One thing is for sure though. We have a growing number in our
society who adopt that lifestyle at 18 years old. They never "pay in".
You can spend all the money in the world and provide all the
opportunities you want and there will always be a reason it's not enough.

I don't think it is "rational" to disenfranchise huge groups of voters.

--
This Halloween, I’m dressing up as a Republican to answer the doorbell.
I’ll give one rich white kid an entire bag of expensive imported
chocolate and make the other 100 kids split a Tootsie Roll.

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