On 10/24/2014 2:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:25:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:46:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it.

It wasn't what we were talking about.


Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the GOP by
weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases
decided against states with Republican governors who restricted
access
to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you
righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip
them
blue.


Yeah just what we need, more bankrupt states



Uh-huh, because non-whites, students, lower income people shouldn't
vote...because, well, if they do, the Republicans can't win. I get it
and so do millions of other Americans.

If it has the effect of "turning the state blue" AKA a welfare state,
that is worse for everyone in the long run.
Low information voters will keep voting themselves benefits from the
public treasury until the state goes broke. Maybe the red states would
be better simply buying the homeless bus tickets so they can go to a
blue state that is willing to support them.



Like everything political, the pendulum swings back and forth, over
extending reasonable limits at the extremes of it's arc.

For several decades voter laws in all the states have become less and
less restrictive, adding ease of registration, early voting, additional
and specific days of voting to accommodate local demographics and making
it easier for all those who want to vote to do so. But in the course of
this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person
has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ...
and they can vote. No proof or documentation required.

So, now the pendulum starts moving back the other way.




The pendulum is swinging back "the other way" in Republican-governed
states only because the Republicans in those states know that the
demographics don't favor them, and they are trying everything they can
to try to hang onto "white man rule" for a little longer. The changes
you reference aren't happening because of any sort of fraud.

http://tinyurl.com/l2glv9m

That's all there is to it.


I didn't say anything about fraud except the reference to having
non-citizens voting in elections. That shouldn't be but it's certainly
easy to do so in many blue states. Who gets the political advantage in
those circumstances?

On 10/24/14 2:09 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 2:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/24/14 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/24/2014 11:57 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:25:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/24/14 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:46:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Oh, Georgia doesn't matter. Sure. I get it.

It wasn't what we were talking about.


Even though the right-wing U.S. Supreme Court has paid off the
GOP by
weakening the voting rights act, there still have been court cases
decided against states with Republican governors who restricted
access
to registration and voting. Naturally, these restrictions please you
righties, because in some states, a huge minority vote would flip
them
blue.


Yeah just what we need, more bankrupt states



Uh-huh, because non-whites, students, lower income people shouldn't
vote...because, well, if they do, the Republicans can't win. I get it
and so do millions of other Americans.

If it has the effect of "turning the state blue" AKA a welfare state,
that is worse for everyone in the long run.
Low information voters will keep voting themselves benefits from the
public treasury until the state goes broke. Maybe the red states would
be better simply buying the homeless bus tickets so they can go to a
blue state that is willing to support them.



Like everything political, the pendulum swings back and forth, over
extending reasonable limits at the extremes of it's arc.

For several decades voter laws in all the states have become less and
less restrictive, adding ease of registration, early voting, additional
and specific days of voting to accommodate local demographics and making
it easier for all those who want to vote to do so. But in the course of
this swing, it has gotten to the point where in some cases all a person
has to do is to claim to be a citizen ... by birth or naturalization ...
and they can vote. No proof or documentation required.

So, now the pendulum starts moving back the other way.




The pendulum is swinging back "the other way" in Republican-governed
states only because the Republicans in those states know that the
demographics don't favor them, and they are trying everything they can
to try to hang onto "white man rule" for a little longer. The changes
you reference aren't happening because of any sort of fraud.

http://tinyurl.com/l2glv9m

That's all there is to it.


I didn't say anything about fraud except the reference to having
non-citizens voting in elections. That shouldn't be but it's certainly
easy to do so in many blue states. Who gets the political advantage in
those circumstances?


There is no documented evidence of significant voter fraud by
non-citizens in states with Republican governors. The only reason those
governors are pushing the legislation and rules is to suppress the vote
of perfectly legitimate voters who will vote white men/women like them
out of office.



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