On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:18:00 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:43:47 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:21:23 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle.
http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html

But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list
though.


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Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional
hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For
hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk -
not as nasty looking however.

I like the looks of the Model 5801

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html

but I like the stainless on the 5805

http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html

I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not
sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target
shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his
farm).

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For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better
choice:

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx

It looks like all except the 'BDL' require a scope, which I don't
want. The 'BDL' appears to be discontinued in the .223 caliber.

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Virtually all of the serious target shooters that I know use a scope.
At 100 yards it is difficult just getting on the paper consistently
without one. With a good rifle, good scope and good ammo, you can
shoot 1 inch groups inside the 10 ring.

I would most likely never be a *serious* target shooter. My eyes
aren't good enough for that. I go to the range only because I enjoy
shooting. I haven't really shot a rifle since early Army days with the
M-14. I was very good with it.

In Vietnam I fired the M-16 only a few times. More or less for
familiarization. My First Sergeant and I would go out to the local
laterite pit and practiced on beer cans.