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On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. At almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

John, I've whacked many a coyote with my AUG.

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On 10/20/2014 5:59 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye
at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303
British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was
a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wow...imagine the bravery and presence of mind it takes to aim at, shoot
and kill those dangerous, toothy, charging prairie dogs two and a half
football fields away! A lesser man would have run for cover. :)


No one said anything about prairie dogs.
Your reading skills are as bad as your parenting skills

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.

They were 14 cents and we would buy a dozen to go when working on the race
car. Toss 1/2 the buns and combine the meat, and put some lettuce on them.

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Tim wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at
almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British
with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a
groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would
rip a rabbit up though.

Probably a .17 HMR would be a good round.

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at
almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British
with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a
groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wow...imagine the bravery and presence of mind it takes to aim at, shoot
and kill those dangerous, toothy, charging prairie dogs two and a half
football fields away! A lesser man would have run for cover. :)


Reading comprehension. Ground hogs. Ground hogs eating the crops, ground
hogs.

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On 10/20/14 7:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.


Would that be the Milk-less Milk Shake Machine? I don't know what's in
them now, but back when I am talking about, they were not made of milk.


--
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by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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On 10/20/14 7:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at
almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British
with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a
groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wow...imagine the bravery and presence of mind it takes to aim at, shoot
and kill those dangerous, toothy, charging prairie dogs two and a half
football fields away! A lesser man would have run for cover. :)


Reading comprehension. Ground hogs. Ground hogs eating the crops, ground
hogs.


Oh. Ground hogs. The other dangerous animal.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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On 10/20/14 6:09 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.

Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?



Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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On 10/20/14 9:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:44:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.

No fast food chain has any milk in the shakes. That is why they are
just called shakes.
It is a bag of powder they dump in the chiller machine, first thing in
the morning and by the time they open, it is a frozen slush. When they
are in a hurry they put a scoop of ice in there.

Fries are an interesting thing. It is the highest profit item in a
fast food joint. Better than coffee, tea and way ahead of the soft
drinks. That is why they are always fiddling with the recipe, trying
to get the ones people want.

I got a lot of insight into those operations working in the Wendys for
7 years but I really learned about the operation when we were
integrating the new computer systems into Burger King. I was one of
the T3 guys who taught the guys who taught the managers. We knew just
about everything there was to know about how a Burger King runs and
where the money goes.
A couple years later Wendys adopted the same basic system and we
rolled the first one out in Naples. I got to meet Dave. Wendys liked
us in Ft Myers because of the way we ran the older register systems.

In reality, I liked that business better than the glass house
operations although it was pretty unpopular with some guys who took
themselves too seriously.

BTW, even is slave wage Florida, I never saw anyone making minimum
wage.



I avoid most of the chain burger joints, though I do have a Five Guys
burger and fries once in a while. I've convinced the local FGs to NOT
overcook the burger, which they tend to do, and to keep the salt off my
fries.

--
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by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:18:52 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would rip a rabbit up though.

The only way to get a decent rabbit is with a .22. Otherwise you are
picking birdshot out of it.

I shot a couple but I was not that big a fan of the meat. It has a
funny wang to it. Commercial rabbit is worse.

The last one I ate we took with a 69 Corvette.
I must have just whacked him in the head with the spoiler and there
really didn't seem to be a mark on him. My roomie insisted on taking
it home and cooking it.

It was as good as any other I had.

===

Dang, you're the only guy I know who has actually eaten at the Road
Kill Cafe. :-)

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 7:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.


Would that be the Milk-less Milk Shake Machine? I don't know what's in
them now, but back when I am talking about, they were not made of milk.



What ever was in them, that is the reason that Krock actually bought McD's.

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wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:00 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would
rip a rabbit up though.

Probably a .17 HMR would be a good round.

That is also a varmint exploder. You just need a .22rf for rabbits.

Lots longer distance.

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wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:40:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/20/14 6:36 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is
shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd
though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye
at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303
British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was
a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223
would rip a rabbit up though.


Damn! You guys are tough, tough, tough...using a little bitty .223 on
those really dangerous bunny rabbits. Aren't you afraid that unless you
make multiple hits on the bunny, it might bite you on the ankle? You
should step up to at least a 5.56 round...why risk losing your life to a
****ed-off bunny?

Must be Carter wannabees. He had to kill one from a canoe because it
was going to board and take him prisoner.

The rabbit was after Jimmie because of lust in its heart.

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wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:21:42 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:42:00 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would
rip a rabbit up though.

Probably a .17 HMR would be a good round.

That is also a varmint exploder. You just need a .22rf for rabbits.

Lots longer distance.

So you have to walk a long ways to get a rabbit that is shredded to
much to eat.

Friends in Oregon shoot sage rats ( ground squirrels ) and are not worried
about eating.

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wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 21:15:21 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 7:41 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/20/14 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.



You didn't hit the McDonald's on the Boston Post Road in Orange, or the
one in Hamden? The one in Orange was across the BPR from Nick's Italian
Grocery, maker of the best subs anywhere. Some people thought McDonald's
would put Nick's out of business, but Nick had a secret weapon: he was
the biggest bookie in the Orange-West Haven area, and never suffered a
business downturn. The McDonald's had a trampoline park next door, too.

In those days, I thought the only thing McDonald's had that was edible
were the fries. The burgers were and still are for ****, and the shakes
had no milk in them.


Ray Krock actually bought McDonalds for their Milk Shake Machine.


Would that be the Milk-less Milk Shake Machine? I don't know what's in
them now, but back when I am talking about, they were not made of milk.



What ever was in them, that is the reason that Krock actually bought McD's.

Actually we have that backwards . Krok was selling milk shake machines
and he wanted to know why McDonalds needed 12 (or some huge number) of
them. When he saw their business model he wanted in.
The thing that McDonald had figured out was previously prepared
burgers pushed out the window really fast at a cheap price (AKA "fast
food")

Actually forgot he was a shake machine salesman.

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On 10/20/2014 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:38:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.


Little Tavern is a White Castle sort of thing if you are a mid
westerner.
They long predate McDonalds. My father flipped burgers at Little
Tavern for a few weeks in 1930 or so when he had just arrived in DC
from Oklahoma.
It is a "slider" type burger with grilled onions and a pickle slice on
a steamed bun.

The 3 main burger chains have different philosophies on the burger.
McD does make them up and stock them under the lights from what I see.
BK cooks the meat in a robo broiler, stocks the meat at the end of the
broiler or over at the sandwich station and makes up the sandwich to
order. (if the meat is cold, they nuke it)
Wendy's keeps burgers cooking on the grill all day, making the
sandwich to order and when the meat on the grill gets too old, they
make chili out of it.
I don't know much about McD but Wendy's and BK use the computer system
to predict how many burgers to cook, based on past usage in 15 minute
intervals.
The manager has an opportunity to override the computer but he does it
at his peril because they also get rated by the same 15 minute
interval and it is a business of pennies.

Everything they do is logged (fry drops, burgers cooked etc) and
balanced against sales. The guys in Columbus or Miami have a pretty
good idea of how many burgers are getting cold and how long the fries
have been baking, if they want to look.
It least that was the way it was when I got away from the business and
I have to believe the computer only got better. That is why I think
the robot store is not that far fetched. They could lose about half of
the kitchen staff and only make things go smoother. Ordering on your
phone could take out a couple more of the counter staff, particularity
if I-pay type services take the money out of the transaction.




I don't go to McDonalds often but I think they now "cook" to order.
"Cooking" is basically nuking a pre-cooked piece of something they call
hamburger in the microwave and assembling the burger per the order. I
don't think they stack 'em up anymore.

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Gfre says...
"It is amazing what youth and copious amounts of alcohol will do.
In our defense. The rabbit was still warm when we got it home.
I cleaned and skinned it on the curb in front of the apartment, threw
the guts in the dumpster. I scraped and salted the hide while my
roomie was cooking the rabbit. It may still be hanging on the wall in
my old shop at my ex's house. "

Whew boy....this reminds me of the old Bob Newhart Show.
Larry, his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl used to go up on the highway looking for roadkill to serve as 'critter de jour" at their cafe.

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On 10/21/14 7:37 AM, True North wrote:
Gfre says...
"It is amazing what youth and copious amounts of alcohol will do.
In our defense. The rabbit was still warm when we got it home.
I cleaned and skinned it on the curb in front of the apartment, threw
the guts in the dumpster. I scraped and salted the hide while my
roomie was cooking the rabbit. It may still be hanging on the wall in
my old shop at my ex's house. "

Whew boy....this reminds me of the old Bob Newhart Show.
Larry, his brother Daryl and his other brother Daryl used to go up on the highway looking for roadkill to serve as 'critter de jour" at their cafe.


I think the fast food burger chains still do that!

I wonder if it is a "southern" thing. When we lived in Virginia and
Florida, and even here in southern Maryland, it isn't unusual to see a
couple of guys in a pickup truck stopping to pick up and, I guess, take
home deer and even raccoons that have been hit and killed by cars. I
suppose it happens in New England, where I grew up, but I never saw it.

On the "back" route from here to Annapolis, there are a few roadside
signs offering the services of fellas who will "dress" your deer, dress
meaning butcher. I suppose these butchers will handle fresh road kill.
There's no shortage of it.

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by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, October 20, 2014 3:09:58 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.



Wasn't that illegal? Could a .223 be used for varmint hunting?

No you can use high powered to hunt about anything but deer. a .223 would rip a rabbit up though.

I've never used anything but a .22 for rabbits. I haven't eaten rabbit
much since I was a kid. Back then we ate them at least a couple times
a week. Cheap.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:09:39 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

John, you're welcome on my farm anytime. But hunting in my county is shotgun only for deer. Rabbits and about anything else is .22. Odd though you can shoot big bore all you want in target 'practice'. Bye at almost 59 I can still flip a groundhog at 250 yards with a .303 British with v sights. That's bench rested though. Best one I did was a groundhog at approx. 375 10 years ago.

You need to put something into the target stand and not just shoot
through the square.

Like what? Zombie pics?

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Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/20/2014 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 18:38:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/20/2014 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:04:58 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:52:33 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:29:02 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

McD's sausage biscuit, for a buck, with a small orange juice is the
best breakfast deal around - unless you can find a Hardees - which
have better biscuits.

===

Damn, I can still remember when you could get 2 eggs with bacon, toast
and coffee for a buck.

Yeah, well...back then I couldn't afford a buck!

My breakfast in High School was usually 2 ten cent Little Tavern
hamburgers



My earliest recollection of McDonalds is fifteen cent hamburgers and
seventeen cent cheeseburgers. My buddy and I used to ride our bicycles
down to the McDonalds in Hingham, MA (the only one around back then).

In those days they cooked 'em on a grill and piled them up under heat
lamps until they sold.


Little Tavern is a White Castle sort of thing if you are a mid
westerner.
They long predate McDonalds. My father flipped burgers at Little
Tavern for a few weeks in 1930 or so when he had just arrived in DC
from Oklahoma.
It is a "slider" type burger with grilled onions and a pickle slice on
a steamed bun.

The 3 main burger chains have different philosophies on the burger.
McD does make them up and stock them under the lights from what I see.
BK cooks the meat in a robo broiler, stocks the meat at the end of the
broiler or over at the sandwich station and makes up the sandwich to
order. (if the meat is cold, they nuke it)
Wendy's keeps burgers cooking on the grill all day, making the
sandwich to order and when the meat on the grill gets too old, they
make chili out of it.
I don't know much about McD but Wendy's and BK use the computer system
to predict how many burgers to cook, based on past usage in 15 minute
intervals.
The manager has an opportunity to override the computer but he does it
at his peril because they also get rated by the same 15 minute
interval and it is a business of pennies.

Everything they do is logged (fry drops, burgers cooked etc) and
balanced against sales. The guys in Columbus or Miami have a pretty
good idea of how many burgers are getting cold and how long the fries
have been baking, if they want to look.
It least that was the way it was when I got away from the business and
I have to believe the computer only got better. That is why I think
the robot store is not that far fetched. They could lose about half of
the kitchen staff and only make things go smoother. Ordering on your
phone could take out a couple more of the counter staff, particularity
if I-pay type services take the money out of the transaction.




I don't go to McDonalds often but I think they now "cook" to order.
"Cooking" is basically nuking a pre-cooked piece of something they call
hamburger in the microwave and assembling the burger per the order. I
don't think they stack 'em up anymore.

They seem to have them in a drawer from what I see. When I go in for
coffee, I can see them assembling the burgers and they open a small drawer,
take out the paddy and place on bun. Probably warming drawers. Never see
a micro wave.

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On 10/21/14 11:29 AM, Califbill wrote:
Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.



It'll be easier to win the war against ISIS than win the war against
squirrels. :)

--
Of life’s simple pleasures, few are more satisfying than being attacked
by the right-wing trash in rec.boats. :)

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Greg, around here we refer white tails as overgrown wild goats

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Bill, an HMR is pretty good but kind of an "overkill" for small edible game like squirrels and rabbit. I prefer to use my winchester model 74 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only which is pretty quiet in the woods. Less racket than a .22 LR

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

===

If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Bill, an HMR is pretty good but kind of an "overkill" for small edible game like squirrels and rabbit. I prefer to use my winchester model 74 with a 4x Weaver scope. It's chambered for .22 short only which is pretty quiet in the woods. Less racket than a .22 LR

As a kid, that's all I ever hunted with. Couldn't afford the LR.

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Wayne, I think somebody produces a spinning feeder that when a small critter like a squirrel or chipmunk tries to climb onto it, the think spins and throws them off. Kinda neat idea actually

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John, you think .22LR is rare and expensive, go looking for .22 short!

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:31:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Deer are 180 pound rats. They are not much of an indicator of bio
diversity. I have seen them in downtown DC.

Funny. When I was a kid and even into early 20's, I loved venison. A
year or so ago a friend gave me some venison sausage and some steaks.
The smell of them cooking took away my appetite for venison
completely.

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Greg you have a point. We don't have bird feeders but if we had standing feeders and critters well, my cure would probably be a Crosman pellet rifle .

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 11:31:15 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 08:28:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Deer are 180 pound rats. They are not much of an indicator of bio
diversity. I have seen them in downtown DC.

Funny. When I was a kid and even into early 20's, I loved venison. A
year or so ago a friend gave me some venison sausage and some steaks.
The smell of them cooking took away my appetite for venison
completely.

Might depend on the care of the venison. As a kid, did not like venison,
but coastal season started in July. I think in the heat the deer went bad
as it fell to the ground. Later, my dad got some deer when the snow and
cold was in season and the venison tasted decent.

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:29:03 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:17:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 20:03:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Sure, but you have to be able to see the varmint and have a rifle
capable of shooting something fairly small at a reasonable distance.
Maybe you should practice with your driver.

Interesting conundrum. Is it more ecologically sound to hunt (even
assuming we are not talking about invasive exotics) or to play golf or
any other lawn based sport?

I would say to hunt. A lot more animals succumb to habitat destruction
than to bullets. Hunters actually promote setting aside more habitat,
granted to have more to shoot at, but it is management of the
resource, not simply wiping it out to plant grass.

I feel the same way about residential lawns, the largest single crop
in the US and one that does not really feed anyone except the guys who
charge to mow, fertilize, poison and suppliers who provide for those
who do. (a $15 billion dollar industry)



Both our golf course and our neighborhood have very nice deer herds,
thank you.

Saw a small buck next to the road by the shopping center yesterday.
Permanent sleep. We are a suburban area, so we have lots of critters.
Since I do not have dogs, seem to get lots of squirrel in my yard, getting
at the bird feeder.

===

If you want to have some fun observing animal ingenuity, try building
a squirrel proof bird feeder some time. It would have made a great
YouTube video as the squirrel learned how to defeat all of my counter
measures.

There is a squirrel proof feeder. Taylor's Hardware in Qualala , CA has a
video. They could make more money selling the video I think. Is
absolutely hilarious. As they get on the feeder, they are heavy and forces
the feeder to spin. Throwing off the squirrel. Some distance, also.

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...

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On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

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On 10/21/2014 3:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

How about this one?

I don't think a pellet gun would discourage this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLmnTrD4j1c

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No a pellet gun wouldn't even distract a bear But at that distance a .44 mag or a 12ga. Slug would.

Yo Jipso! - Smart kid
 

On 10/21/2014 4:55 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 15:00:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/21/2014 2:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Bill, that's the feeder I was thinking of...



I like this idea ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9-rE5RBZvU

I bet you will have to grease that up fairly often if you have a lot
of squirrels.
They will wipe it all off eventually smearing it off in the dirt.



YaBUT think of the entertainment value.