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On 10/17/14 9:50 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:44:14 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Anyone, even you, if you lived here, could buy an AR-15 lower in Maryland through an FFL and finish it off into a rifle with a 16" HBAR and have yourself a new AR-15. The .308 battle rifles, by the way, aren't on the forbidden list, and neither are the .300 Blackouts. === .308 on an AR-15 frame is not an enjoyable gun to shoot. .300 blackout is better than ok on an AR-15 frame. Bullet is close to a a .308, pretty much identical to a 7.62 Sov, but not as big a powder charge. I've never shot a .308 rifle, AR-15 style or otherwise. Bad choice of rounds. If similar to 308, would be a heck of a lot cheaper to shoot. Or a 7.62 Russian. Lots cheaper to buy a military round than a wildcat.. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/16/14 11:20 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/16/14, 9:09 PM, wrote: On 16 Oct 2014 18:02:43 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: True North wrote: Johnny spess... "Now Don will be re-reading the article over and over trying to see if Cathy Fears belonged to the 15 year-old. " Naw, I quickly marked it off as due to your diminished faculties and moved on. My condolences to Mrs Herring. She keeps suggesting new hobbies to get her creepy husband out of the house and out of her sight. This month, model airplanes. Next month, Ebola safety suit tester. You really have a hard time criticizing any one's hobby when yours is tiptoeing around an assault weapons ban that you profess to support by doing modifications to a rifle they intended to outlaw. The only reason you seem to have for it is to spray the Shanandoah valley with spent 5.56 rounds and broken bits of plastic. If that is all you want to do you need one of these. http://cdn.pyramydair.com/images/Dai...3925601938.jpg What assault weapons ban am I tiptoeing around, pray tell? I don't own any "assault weapons." I do have a few semi-auto rifles. None of the firearms I own are banned in my state. I have three ranges I can shoot my rifles at, all within about 20-30 miles or so of here, and one of them is an indoor range. None of the rifles I have are modified in any way that would make them illegal. Adding an ambi safety, a red dot sight, or modifying a gas block does not make the rifles fire automatically. According to the government assault rifles only have to look nasty. Nothing about select fire. Didn't you recently buy a S&W variant of an AR-15? Yup. And it gets around the "assault rifle" ban by having a bullet button, and flash suppressor is welded on. Lots of others, including the original AR's are banned. On looks. You can own a pre ban AR if you both owned it before the ban and registered the gun. Very much anti 2nd admendment. Hell my Remington 7400 30.06 is more deadly than the AR's .223. Except my 7400 was known as the Jamomatic. Is all on looks, perception. Like the no hunting Mountain Lions in this state. They are not endangered, they are a danger, and have about wiped out the endangered desert Big Horn Sheep. Is perception of. a cuddly cat. Snerk. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:44:14 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Anyone, even you, if you lived here, could buy an AR-15 lower in Maryland through an FFL and finish it off into a rifle with a 16" HBAR and have yourself a new AR-15. The .308 battle rifles, by the way, aren't on the forbidden list, and neither are the .300 Blackouts. === .308 on an AR-15 frame is not an enjoyable gun to shoot. May be more enjoyable than a bolt action 308. |
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On 10/17/2014 2:42 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. "It was a joke" is the final justification for political placation... |
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On 10/17/2014 2:59 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/17/2014 2:42 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. "It was a joke" is the final justification for political placation... In this case it was to help prevent you from having an aneurysm. |
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On 10/17/14 2:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:34:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 12:58 AM, wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:43:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: You really have a hard time criticizing any one's hobby when yours is tiptoeing around an assault weapons ban that you profess to support by doing modifications to a rifle they intended to outlaw. You bought a gun that was carefully crafted to skirt that law, then you explained how you were going to skirt the 10 round magazine limit Sorry, Greg, but you are just plain wrong...again. The model of Colt AR15 I have has been manufactured for a long, long time, and predates Maryland's banning the sale of many other ARs. The rifle was not "carefully crafted" to skirt Maryland law. Before 1994 when the model AWB was written? Gosh, Gregster, I don't know and I'm not going to waste any time dredging it up. I do know someone who has the same model AR15 I have, and he bought his used after the turn of the century. His has the carry handle...mine does not. He kept his Colt A2 sight and forend grips, and I shaved down my sight and went with a rail system. Other than the changes I made, and the carry handle, the rifles appear identical. Oh, and the roll stamp on the side of his receiver is different. The law is a joke and the gun was made to skirt the law. How is adding a flash suppressor or a bayonet lug going to make it more dangerous.? Are you talking about the Maryland law, which is the only one that interests me? The model AR I have was specifically exempted by model name from the Maryland law. Mine had the bayonet lug, but I shaved it off. Also has a flash suppressor as standard equipment, perfectly legal. I bet the law makers in Maryland thought they were banning that gun. They are just to stupid to know what they were banning and what they weren't. Nope. The model I have was specifically exempted. Now, don't forget to remind me that I *could* buy larger cap mags in Virginia if I wanted to, but, as I told you previously, I have no need or interest in them. I don't try to empty mags as quickly as I can, and I don't mind reloading them. Decent rounds are 31 cents each, after all, and blowing off one a second is not the sort of shooting I do or enjoy. Have nice day. If Maryland is anything like California. You can not buy or be given a greater than 10 round Mag. Especially buy out of state and bring in. If you live in Maryland and travel out of state, you can legally buy hi-cap mags in another state and legally bring them back into Maryland, so...in that regard, Maryland and California are not alike. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/17/14 2:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 9:50 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:44:14 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Anyone, even you, if you lived here, could buy an AR-15 lower in Maryland through an FFL and finish it off into a rifle with a 16" HBAR and have yourself a new AR-15. The .308 battle rifles, by the way, aren't on the forbidden list, and neither are the .300 Blackouts. === .308 on an AR-15 frame is not an enjoyable gun to shoot. .300 blackout is better than ok on an AR-15 frame. Bullet is close to a a .308, pretty much identical to a 7.62 Sov, but not as big a powder charge. I've never shot a .308 rifle, AR-15 style or otherwise. Bad choice of rounds. If similar to 308, would be a heck of a lot cheaper to shoot. Or a 7.62 Russian. Lots cheaper to buy a military round than a wildcat.. ..300 aac blackout is a wildcat no longer. Just got an email alert for .300 blackout rounds for about .32 each...price is dropping rapidly. I don't like or use Russian ammo. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/17/14 3:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/17/2014 2:59 PM, KC wrote: On 10/17/2014 2:42 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. "It was a joke" is the final justification for political placation... In this case it was to help prevent you from having an aneurysm. You are *such* a humanitarian! Ahh...found a new feature in the latest OS...if my iphone rings, I can answer it on my iMac and use the speaker and microphone on it instead of the iPhone. Hey, the price of the OS upgrade was right! :) -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/17/2014 3:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/17/14 3:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/17/2014 2:59 PM, KC wrote: On 10/17/2014 2:42 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. "It was a joke" is the final justification for political placation... In this case it was to help prevent you from having an aneurysm. You are *such* a humanitarian! Ahh...found a new feature in the latest OS...if my iphone rings, I can answer it on my iMac and use the speaker and microphone on it instead of the iPhone. Hey, the price of the OS upgrade was right! :) If I were more into the multiple device syncing thing and wanted to share stuff from an iPhone, iPad or whatever I'd probably have more appreciation for Apple products. But, I don't. |
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True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. Takes lessons at the same school you do. |
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On 10/17/2014 3:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/17/2014 2:59 PM, KC wrote: On 10/17/2014 2:42 PM, True North wrote: Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - "It was a joke Scott. I don't give a crap about either of the candidates for the governorship of Florida. Say, what *was* that third department Rick Perry wanted to abolish? General Disclaimer: Due to the sensitivities of some viewers, this post should not be interpreted as "bullying" or as an expression of superiority. No one was harmed in the creation of this post, directly or indirectly. " SNERK! That L'il Snot is quite the sensitive drama queen. He works extra hard at being offended. "It was a joke" is the final justification for political placation... In this case it was to help prevent you from having an aneurysm. redux.... |
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On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:12:24 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. I totally enjoyed my M1A and my 1987 M1 garrand, as well as my Hakim. Only thing I have right now in high powered rifles chambereed .30 is a collection of .303 Lee's |
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On 10/18/2014 12:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:08:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 9:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:20:26 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: If you live in Maryland and travel out of state, you can legally buy hi-cap mags in another state and legally bring them back into Maryland, so...in that regard, Maryland and California are not alike. Like I said, the stupidest "assault weapons ban" I have ever seen. Knowing what I do about Maryland politics, it makes me wonder who bribed whom to get these loopholes in the law. The bans have effective dates, with ownership prior to the effective date "grandfathered" legal. So, while Maryland can ban the sale of certain items such as hi-cap mags after a certain date, it can hardly ban the purchase of those items out of state because they are not serial numbered and date of purchase cannot be established. Now, if you have a skinny barrel upper on a legal lower, and that lower was manufactured/purchased after the ban date, you could be in trouble, because the state can determine the "age" of that lower, possibly its date of manufacture, and certainly the date you legally bought it from an FFL. So why even bother? If there are millions of assault weapons exempted, it sounds like politicians just trying to be able to say they are doing something I suppose that is just what happens when you try to write a law that is uncontitutional on it's face. Here's how high capacity magazines are treated in Massachusetts. My understanding is that if you have a pre-ban magazine and it's possession is questioned the owner has to prove he/she owned it prior to 1994. http://massguns.com/the-massachusetts-high-capacity-magazine-ban/ |
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On 10/18/2014 1:06 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:22:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2014 9:12 PM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. You too? It was a joke. It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" You have to hand it to Crist. He is a master politician whereas Scott was able to counter the bull**** and smoke with facts every time he saw Crist's lips moving. |
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On 10/18/14 12:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:08:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 9:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:20:26 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: If you live in Maryland and travel out of state, you can legally buy hi-cap mags in another state and legally bring them back into Maryland, so...in that regard, Maryland and California are not alike. Like I said, the stupidest "assault weapons ban" I have ever seen. Knowing what I do about Maryland politics, it makes me wonder who bribed whom to get these loopholes in the law. The bans have effective dates, with ownership prior to the effective date "grandfathered" legal. So, while Maryland can ban the sale of certain items such as hi-cap mags after a certain date, it can hardly ban the purchase of those items out of state because they are not serial numbered and date of purchase cannot be established. Now, if you have a skinny barrel upper on a legal lower, and that lower was manufactured/purchased after the ban date, you could be in trouble, because the state can determine the "age" of that lower, possibly its date of manufacture, and certainly the date you legally bought it from an FFL. So why even bother? If there are millions of assault weapons exempted, it sounds like politicians just trying to be able to say they are doing something I suppose that is just what happens when you try to write a law that is uncontitutional on it's face. Just what in the Maryland "banned gun list" is unConstitutional? -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:22:28 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/17/2014 9:12 PM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. You too? It was a joke. It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:12:24 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. I totally enjoyed my M1A and my 1987 M1 garrand, as well as my Hakim. Only thing I have right now in high powered rifles chambereed .30 is a collection of .303 Lee's Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. |
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On 10/18/2014 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:29:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote: It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" Then you have Crist being guilty of taking bribes to appoint judges and the fact that 3 of his closest advisers went to jail for corruption. He also has flip flopped on just about every issue, depending on which way the wind is blowing. He is backed by the biggest ambulance chaser in the state. That is troubling right there. The whole medical pot issue is only on the ballot to get more democrats to the polls in a year where there is not much to vote for. Scott hasn't seemed to rob anyone lately and he has done a fairly good job guiding the state through the recovery. I still wish there was another viable choice. I voted for the Libertarian and I am letting others pick their favorite Menendez brother. There is a good chance that a lot of the pot voters may do the same. Does sound like the dem in Fla is just comfortable cheating and lying... no surprise there. |
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On 10/18/14 12:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:38:21 -0400, KC wrote: On 10/18/2014 11:27 AM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:29:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote: It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" Then you have Crist being guilty of taking bribes to appoint judges and the fact that 3 of his closest advisers went to jail for corruption. He also has flip flopped on just about every issue, depending on which way the wind is blowing. He is backed by the biggest ambulance chaser in the state. That is troubling right there. The whole medical pot issue is only on the ballot to get more democrats to the polls in a year where there is not much to vote for. Scott hasn't seemed to rob anyone lately and he has done a fairly good job guiding the state through the recovery. I still wish there was another viable choice. I voted for the Libertarian and I am letting others pick their favorite Menendez brother. There is a good chance that a lot of the pot voters may do the same. Does sound like the dem in Fla is just comfortable cheating and lying... no surprise there. Crist is a "born again" democrat. He switched parties to independent because they already had a republican running for senate when that was his dream and Rubio had crushed him. If the DNC had come up with a viable candidate for governor, I suppose he would have run as an independent again. If he loses this time, I would not be shocked if he tried for the GOP nomination next time. (Scott is term limited) Crist still only has one more term coming if he is elected so I am waiting to see what he chooses next. This guy is the king of the flip floppers and he will do or say anything to get your vote. I wouldn't even be shocked if he came out ... finally (That rumor has been around Tallahassee for at least 15 years) Whatever Crist has done wrong in his lifetime doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the criminality of your current governor. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:31:55 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:12:24 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. I totally enjoyed my M1A and my 1987 M1 garrand, as well as my Hakim. Only thing I have right now in high powered rifles chambereed .30 is a collection of .303 Lee's Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. The only Mini 14 that ever even tempted me was a stainless ranch rifle in selective fire. It would have been a great investment at $800 (1983) The Models 5805 and 5817 are made of stainless, but I like the hardwood stock. I just sent a note to Ruger asking if it's possible to buy the 5805 with the hardwood stock. |
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On 10/18/2014 12:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/18/14 12:39 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:38:21 -0400, KC wrote: On 10/18/2014 11:27 AM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:29:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote: It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" Then you have Crist being guilty of taking bribes to appoint judges and the fact that 3 of his closest advisers went to jail for corruption. He also has flip flopped on just about every issue, depending on which way the wind is blowing. He is backed by the biggest ambulance chaser in the state. That is troubling right there. The whole medical pot issue is only on the ballot to get more democrats to the polls in a year where there is not much to vote for. Scott hasn't seemed to rob anyone lately and he has done a fairly good job guiding the state through the recovery. I still wish there was another viable choice. I voted for the Libertarian and I am letting others pick their favorite Menendez brother. There is a good chance that a lot of the pot voters may do the same. Does sound like the dem in Fla is just comfortable cheating and lying... no surprise there. Crist is a "born again" democrat. He switched parties to independent because they already had a republican running for senate when that was his dream and Rubio had crushed him. If the DNC had come up with a viable candidate for governor, I suppose he would have run as an independent again. If he loses this time, I would not be shocked if he tried for the GOP nomination next time. (Scott is term limited) Crist still only has one more term coming if he is elected so I am waiting to see what he chooses next. This guy is the king of the flip floppers and he will do or say anything to get your vote. I wouldn't even be shocked if he came out ... finally (That rumor has been around Tallahassee for at least 15 years) Whatever Crist has done wrong in his lifetime doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the criminality of your current governor. I love how you can so easily justify actions of a dishonest politician based on the severity of his offenses compared to others. Sorta like being "almost" pregnant. |
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On 10/18/14 1:11 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/18/2014 12:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 12:39 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:38:21 -0400, KC wrote: On 10/18/2014 11:27 AM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:29:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote: It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" Then you have Crist being guilty of taking bribes to appoint judges and the fact that 3 of his closest advisers went to jail for corruption. He also has flip flopped on just about every issue, depending on which way the wind is blowing. He is backed by the biggest ambulance chaser in the state. That is troubling right there. The whole medical pot issue is only on the ballot to get more democrats to the polls in a year where there is not much to vote for. Scott hasn't seemed to rob anyone lately and he has done a fairly good job guiding the state through the recovery. I still wish there was another viable choice. I voted for the Libertarian and I am letting others pick their favorite Menendez brother. There is a good chance that a lot of the pot voters may do the same. Does sound like the dem in Fla is just comfortable cheating and lying... no surprise there. Crist is a "born again" democrat. He switched parties to independent because they already had a republican running for senate when that was his dream and Rubio had crushed him. If the DNC had come up with a viable candidate for governor, I suppose he would have run as an independent again. If he loses this time, I would not be shocked if he tried for the GOP nomination next time. (Scott is term limited) Crist still only has one more term coming if he is elected so I am waiting to see what he chooses next. This guy is the king of the flip floppers and he will do or say anything to get your vote. I wouldn't even be shocked if he came out ... finally (That rumor has been around Tallahassee for at least 15 years) Whatever Crist has done wrong in his lifetime doesn't amount to a hill of beans compared to the criminality of your current governor. I love how you can so easily justify actions of a dishonest politician based on the severity of his offenses compared to others. Sorta like being "almost" pregnant. I think most politicians in high office have some shady stuff in their backgrounds. Rick Scott's company was fined about $1.5 billion for Medicare fraud, and he took the Fifth Amendment 75 times to avoid incriminating himself during the legal procedures about that fraud. I suppose that does qualify him for being governor of Florida. We've had a few crooks as governors of Maryland, of course, but they were pikers compared to Rick Scott. Oh, how did Scott avoid indictment? A "deal" was made between his lawyers, and there was an agreement to pay a huge fine. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/18/14 11:31 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. The only Mini 14 that ever even tempted me was a stainless ranch rifle in selective fire. It would have been a great investment at $800 (1983) Did the selective model also have the skinny barrel of the Mini-14's of that era? They sure had a rep for being incredibly inaccurate rifles because of barrel flexing. I suppose when you were considering an auto version accuracy didn't matter much if you were just spraying out rounds. The barrel was redesigned in this century and made stiffer, but the accuracy reviews on the new models are mixed, and there is quite a market of "accurizing" pieces and parts and gunsmiths who work on the "minis." I've fired a couple of Mini-14's and one Mini-30 and was thinking of buying one until I decided to get an AR-15. I liked the rifle, though I thought at the time it was heavy at 7 pounds empty. But my AR-15 weighs 7.3 pounds according to my postal scale with a 10-round mag. Maybe the balance was different. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). === For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better choice: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/18/2014 12:53 AM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:08:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/17/14 9:21 PM, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:20:26 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: If you live in Maryland and travel out of state, you can legally buy hi-cap mags in another state and legally bring them back into Maryland, so...in that regard, Maryland and California are not alike. Like I said, the stupidest "assault weapons ban" I have ever seen. Knowing what I do about Maryland politics, it makes me wonder who bribed whom to get these loopholes in the law. The bans have effective dates, with ownership prior to the effective date "grandfathered" legal. So, while Maryland can ban the sale of certain items such as hi-cap mags after a certain date, it can hardly ban the purchase of those items out of state because they are not serial numbered and date of purchase cannot be established. Now, if you have a skinny barrel upper on a legal lower, and that lower was manufactured/purchased after the ban date, you could be in trouble, because the state can determine the "age" of that lower, possibly its date of manufacture, and certainly the date you legally bought it from an FFL. So why even bother? If there are millions of assault weapons exempted, it sounds like politicians just trying to be able to say they are doing something I suppose that is just what happens when you try to write a law that is uncontitutional on it's face. Here's how high capacity magazines are treated in Massachusetts. My understanding is that if you have a pre-ban magazine and it's possession is questioned the owner has to prove he/she owned it prior to 1994. http://massguns.com/the-massachusetts-high-capacity-magazine-ban/ Napoleonic code. Guilty first. |
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On 10/18/14 3:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). === For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better choice: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx Nearly nine pounds empty, nearly 4' long with a 26" barrel, and bolt action. Yeah, it's a perfect alternative to a Mini-14. :) -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:21:23 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). === For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better choice: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx It looks like all except the 'BDL' require a scope, which I don't want. The 'BDL' appears to be discontinued in the .223 caliber. |
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On 10/18/14 3:43 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:21:23 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). === For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better choice: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx It looks like all except the 'BDL' require a scope, which I don't want. The 'BDL' appears to be discontinued in the .223 caliber. Any decent gunsmith could fix you up with a Williams rear peep sight and an NECG band front sight, or something similar. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/18/2014 11:27 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:29:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 1:06 AM, wrote: It was not seen as a joke here. The news tried to make a big deal of "fangate" until they finally read the rules, Personally I think Scott missed a great line "Mr Crist is here with cool air blowing up his front side while he is blowing smoke up the voter's backside" Scott making any comments about another politician's honesty is laughable. Mr. "Biggest Fine Ever - 75 Fifth Amendment Pleas" Then you have Crist being guilty of taking bribes to appoint judges and the fact that 3 of his closest advisers went to jail for corruption. He also has flip flopped on just about every issue, depending on which way the wind is blowing. He is backed by the biggest ambulance chaser in the state. That is troubling right there. The whole medical pot issue is only on the ballot to get more democrats to the polls in a year where there is not much to vote for. Scott hasn't seemed to rob anyone lately and he has done a fairly good job guiding the state through the recovery. I still wish there was another viable choice. I voted for the Libertarian and I am letting others pick their favorite Menendez brother. There is a good chance that a lot of the pot voters may do the same. Thanks to O'Bama's help, Scott should enjoy another term as Gov. of the great state of Florida. |
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On 10/18/2014 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:12:24 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. I totally enjoyed my M1A and my 1987 M1 garrand, as well as my Hakim. Only thing I have right now in high powered rifles chambereed .30 is a collection of .303 Lee's Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. Santa came early to my house. |
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:21:09 -0400, Harrold wrote:
On 10/18/2014 10:12 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:58:39 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:12:24 PM UTC-7, wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:45:11 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Gee, Greg, I simply don't know. If I were you, I'd be more concerned about the fact that your current governor is a crook whose company had to pay the largest fine for fraud in the history of the United States and who pled the Fifth Amendment what, 75 times? Plus, he's not a fan of fans. It turns out Scott was right. Fans were specifically against the debate rules. I totally enjoyed my M1A and my 1987 M1 garrand, as well as my Hakim. Only thing I have right now in high powered rifles chambereed .30 is a collection of .303 Lee's Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. Santa came early to my house. No kiddin'!! |
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On 10/18/14 4:19 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 15:32:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 3:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:41:16 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:31 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:12:29 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Was looking at rifles yesterday. I like the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...le/models.html But, it's not in the works right yet. Might go on a Christmas list though. === Which model would you get? I like the look of the traditional hardwood stocks but I'm sure the synthetics are more durable. For hunting a 5 round mag seems like plenty and it cuts down the bulk - not as nasty looking however. I like the looks of the Model 5801 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5801.html but I like the stainless on the 5805 http://www.ruger.com/products/mini14...eets/5805.html I'm probably just old fashioned when it comes to stock material. Not sure which magazines I'd get. I'd probably use it mostly for target shooting (unless Tim invited me to come out and go hunting on his farm). === For target shooting the Remington 700 in .223 is probably a better choice: http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-varmint.aspx Nearly nine pounds empty, nearly 4' long with a 26" barrel, and bolt action. Yeah, it's a perfect alternative to a Mini-14. :) A 700 is not a "run and shoot" gun. It was designed for serious target shooters or "varmint" hunters as the name implies. I appreciate that. Herring is, I believe, older than I am, and has "coke bottle" eyeglasses, and wants to shoot, as he stated in a newer post, without a scope. That should be an interesting experiment in eyeball physics, what with a target in the distance and the long sight radius of that rifle sans a scope. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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On 10/18/14 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:12:37 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/18/14 4:08 PM, wrote: On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:17:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: Oh, how did Scott avoid indictment? A "deal" was made between his lawyers, and there was an agreement to pay a huge fine. Something like 3 times what they say he took. In the good old days, you could have bought all of SW Florida swampland for that. How "old"? The 30s? By 2000 Florida real estate was a hot commodity and the swamps were protected wetlands The good old days I was referring to were back in the mid 1920s and then again in the 1950s through the early 1960s. Even on the other coast of Florida, you could buy one hell of an estate in the late 1950s for very little money. I know this because the first time I actually went to Florida was in 1959 over the Christmas school break as the guest of my then-girlfriend's family, and her dad was looking over some property when we were down there. He was considering a beachfront failed orange "farm" north of Ft. Lauderdale, and while I don't remember the numbers, I do recall they were quite low for a lot of acreage. During the most recent crash, you could buy oceanfront high rise condos for 10 to 20 cents on the dollar. But those days are over, what with all the South Americans taking over that area. I suppose the prices will nosedive again when the aquifer dries up. -- The new GOP credo: Hate the people who are being oppressed, love the people who are doing the oppressing. |
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