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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote: I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing. $10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :) It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket. Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental, entertainment (ha!). I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you can take the others and they build on each other.. Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies... No you should have learned simple math in elementary school. Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school. After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what comprises "the liberal arts." *Math* is one of the liberal arts. Advanced math is also hard science. |
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On 10/8/2014 11:59 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies... -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin Yup, we know. |
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On 10/8/2014 1:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The level of teaching, learning, debate, and writing in the most serious upper level post-grad courses disciplines one's brain like almost nothing found in the non-academic world. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin Are you saying that you are not understood outside of academia? |
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On 10/8/2014 1:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 1:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 12:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote: I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing. $10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :) It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket. Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental, entertainment (ha!). I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you can take the others and they build on each other.. Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies... No you should have learned simple math in elementary school. Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school. After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what comprises "the liberal arts." *Math* is one of the liberal arts. So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Education should be a lifelong and therefore neverending process. The level of teaching, learning, debate, and writing in the most serious upper level post-grad courses disciplines one's brain like almost nothing found in the non-academic world. I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so it's just an opinion on my part. You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that, as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain more by keeping an open mind. |
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On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 10/8/2014 11:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 10:40 AM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:56:40 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 10/8/2014 6:46 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: My daughter's father in law is a retired history professor and he openly says, liberal arts college is not designed to teach you a marketable job skill. Hehehe. Love it. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.†Sarah Palin Here ye go Harry. These folks are having a hard time justifying a liberal arts degree. Help em out, would ya? https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...4170042AAA0dsd They come to the same conclusion as my son in law's dad. The only job skill is to teach other liberal arts majors. If you have not learned how to think, read and write well by the time you get out of K-12, 4 more years is not going to help much. Well, a stint in the Navy didn't help FlaJim learn how to think, eh? Noper. I got a good job in the Navy because I already knew how to think. On the other hand, 4 years of college didn't do it for you, so you had to go and get more. You still can't think rationally. I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. |
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On 10/8/2014 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote: On 10/7/2014 9:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/7/14 7:38 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:00:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/7/14 4:15 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year. If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to have guns, I will let you win that one. Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did you mean 'in school' after 'guns'? They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are they going to remember where they left their gun? Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree and not be so disdainful of those who did. Non responsive Perfectly responsive to someone who is disdainful of formal higher education. I appreciate engineers, doctors, nurses, scientists and even, to some extent, lawyers but just going to college, to say you went, seems silly to me. There are plenty of guys like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who agree with me. After a year or two they figured out they had squeezed all the juice out of that lemon. My 28 year old (tattooed and pierced) is making 60 a year and she got sick one month into college and never went back. Last I knew that's about twice what my 30 yo with a masters is making. Not to mention my 30 yo had to change courses at least once, maybe twice and still doesn't really work in the field she paid so much to learn. So, bottom line is both worked their asses off for experience, difference is one got paid while doing it, the other paid dearly and will be for a long time for it.. The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree. And $60K is not that much these days. I would be happy with it.. |
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On 10/8/2014 2:34 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so it's just an opinion on my part. Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for content can grant a lifetime of experience. But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts. You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that, as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain more by keeping an open mind. Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade. There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns. Shakespeare scared the crap out of me .... no, wait ... it was reading Edgar Allen Poe that scared the crap out of me. I read "The Cask of Amontillado" when I was about 12 or 13 years old. Shouldn't have. |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:35:49 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote: I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing. $10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :) It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket. Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental, entertainment (ha!). I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you can take the others and they build on each other.. Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies... No you should have learned simple math in elementary school. Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school. After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what comprises "the liberal arts." *Math* is one of the liberal arts. My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math. Mine is also a Bachelor of Science in math. I did take some liberal arts courses. And I can understand Krause saying 'simple math is a liberal arts thingy'. The key word is 'simple'. |
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/8/2014 2:34 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so it's just an opinion on my part. Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for content can grant a lifetime of experience. But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts. You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that, as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain more by keeping an open mind. Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade. There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns. Shakespeare scared the crap out of me .... no, wait ... it was reading Edgar Allen Poe that scared the crap out of me. I read "The Cask of Amontillado" when I was about 12 or 13 years old. Shouldn't have. The family was nuts. Supposedly Poe's niece lived in a house where I grew up. Piled tires under the house and torched house and her. We found lots of charcoal when we dug the garden. |
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KC wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote: KC wrote: On 10/7/2014 9:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/7/14 7:38 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:00:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/7/14 4:15 PM, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year. If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to have guns, I will let you win that one. Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did you mean 'in school' after 'guns'? They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are they going to remember where they left their gun? Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree and not be so disdainful of those who did. Non responsive Perfectly responsive to someone who is disdainful of formal higher education. I appreciate engineers, doctors, nurses, scientists and even, to some extent, lawyers but just going to college, to say you went, seems silly to me. There are plenty of guys like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg who agree with me. After a year or two they figured out they had squeezed all the juice out of that lemon. My 28 year old (tattooed and pierced) is making 60 a year and she got sick one month into college and never went back. Last I knew that's about twice what my 30 yo with a masters is making. Not to mention my 30 yo had to change courses at least once, maybe twice and still doesn't really work in the field she paid so much to learn. So, bottom line is both worked their asses off for experience, difference is one got paid while doing it, the other paid dearly and will be for a long time for it.. The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree. And $60K is not that much these days. I would be happy with it.. So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation. |
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On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote: I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete job they had in the service. Yawn. One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was *somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.†Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/14 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 11:34 AM, wrote: I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing. $10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :) It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket. Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental, entertainment (ha!). I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you can take the others and they build on each other.. Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies... No you should have learned simple math in elementary school. Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school. After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what comprises "the liberal arts." *Math* is one of the liberal arts. My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math. And you think *science* is not one of the liberal arts, eh? Perhaps this will help: Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. In the medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar, rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and astronomy (the quadrivium). In modern colleges and universities the liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal, education. Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities (literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences. From the Britannica. A B.S. in Math is not, per se, a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote: I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete job they had in the service. Yawn. One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was *somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy. Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle out of your reactions and false assumptions about him. 'nuff said. Carry on. |
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On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. |
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On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote: I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete job they had in the service. Yawn. One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was *somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy. Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle out of your reactions and false assumptions about him. 'nuff said. Carry on. I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy. In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the **** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man enough to stand up and take it in return. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.†Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/2014 4:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote: I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete job they had in the service. Yawn. One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was *somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy. Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle out of your reactions and false assumptions about him. 'nuff said. Carry on. I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy. In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the **** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man enough to stand up and take it in return. Like I said. False assumptions. It just annoys the hell out of you for some reason that he doesn't share all his personal information in an Internet newsgroup. Smart guy. BTW ... *you* are the one that has him filtered. |
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On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. |
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On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/2014 4:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote: I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify. I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete job they had in the service. Yawn. One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was *somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy. Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle out of your reactions and false assumptions about him. 'nuff said. Carry on. I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy. In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the **** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man enough to stand up and take it in return. Like I said. False assumptions. It just annoys the hell out of you for some reason that he doesn't share all his personal information in an Internet newsgroup. Smart guy. BTW ... *you* are the one that has him filtered. Harry has turned into quite the crybaby. |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? Constantly prying, eh Krause? BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. |
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On 10/8/14 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. Because, ****-for-brains, occasionally one of the right-wing brain ruptures, like you, will requote him and if I happen to read that post of yours... Well, see if you can figure out the rest. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities Impressive. What can you do with all of that general knowledge and intellectual capacities? Pass it on to others who can't figure out a better course of study. Why didn't you become a teacher of same? |
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On 10/8/2014 5:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? You are such a turd. Why should he or would he volunteer personal information of others without implicit permission. Nice try asshole. |
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On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? Constantly prying, eh Krause? BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-) |
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On 10/8/14 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:35 PM, wrote: My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math. And you think *science* is not one of the liberal arts, eh? Perhaps this will help: Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. In the medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar, rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and astronomy (the quadrivium). In modern colleges and universities the liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal, education. Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities (literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences. From the Britannica. A B.S. in Math is not, per se, a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. You are using a pretty liberal interpretation of a liberal arts degree. It's the interpretation of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and is the classical definition. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On 10/8/14 8:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Only people who are arrogant about it. It seems all some get out of college is the ability to be an elitist asshole ... and they usually profess to be men of the people. That is people they would not stoop to talk to most of the time and who cause them lock their car doors when they walk by. Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns? Because they make two liter sodapop bottles explode, of course. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:56:32 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Only people who are arrogant about it. It seems all some get out of college is the ability to be an elitist asshole ... and they usually profess to be men of the people. That is people they would not stoop to talk to most of the time and who cause them lock their car doors when they walk by. Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns? Along with the video cams, alarm system, generator, and Gunsite courses? Sounds like a Ruby Ridge in the making. |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:47:37 -0400, Harrold wrote:
On 10/7/2014 11:17 PM, wrote: My daughter's father in law is a retired history professor and he openly says, liberal arts college is not designed to teach you a marketable job skill. That's Harry's problem in a nutshell. He knows nothing of anything worthwhile. === Quite literally, an educated fool. |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill wrote: KC wrote: The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree. And $60K is not that much these days. I would be happy with it.. So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation. My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k range She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles) Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma. Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should have got a science degree and start at $75k. |
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On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill wrote: KC wrote: The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree. And $60K is not that much these days. I would be happy with it.. So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation. My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k range She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles) Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma. Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should have got a science degree and start at $75k. Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
*Math* is one of the liberal arts. === I'd bet that you wouldn't recognize a differential equation if you tripped over it. |
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:47:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns? Along with the video cams, alarm system, generator, and Gunsite courses? Sounds like a Ruby Ridge in the making. === Harry knows that some day they will come to get him. That's what happens when you spend your life screwing and defrauding people. |
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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote:
On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? Constantly prying, eh Krause? BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-) If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true) posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list, and immediately hit the 'Delete' button. Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons? |
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On 10/9/14 2:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? Constantly prying, eh Krause? BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-) If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true) posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list, and immediately hit the 'Delete' button. Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons? If it were you, you wouldn't know how to set up filters. I don't have to do anything once they are set up, actually, because the filtration is automatic on the users whose posts aren't worth any time. If I wish, I can open up the filter and check out how many posts have been filtered, what the topics were, and who the senders were...the header info...but not the contents. Most of the right-wing turds are in there. Perhaps you should stick to the multitude of time-wasting hobbies at which you will never achieve any measure of success. -- “My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.” Sarah Palin |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:05:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: *Math* is one of the liberal arts. === I'd bet that you wouldn't recognize a differential equation if you tripped over it. He used the term 'simple math', like Math for Liberal Arts Majors, which satisfies the requirement for a math course in college. http://www.math.rutgers.edu/courses/103/ |
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On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:12:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/9/14 2:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more? Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper". There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement. Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the Universities and Colleges. I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism. You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views. Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim. BTW, did his kids join the military? Constantly prying, eh Krause? BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him filtered, correct? You're a joke, Krause. He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-) If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true) posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list, and immediately hit the 'Delete' button. Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons? If it were you, you wouldn't know how to set up filters. I don't have to do anything once they are set up, actually, because the filtration is automatic on the users whose posts aren't worth any time. If I wish, I can open up the filter and check out how many posts have been filtered, what the topics were, and who the senders were...the header info...but not the contents. Most of the right-wing turds are in there. Perhaps you should stick to the multitude of time-wasting hobbies at which you will never achieve any measure of success. I can see you're proud of your ability to set up a filter in an Apple. I'm also glad you can satisfy your immense curiosity by checking all the data you check. That is surely a much more valuable use of time than a hobby. It is no wonder you are so proud of yourself. |
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