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Califbill October 8th 14 07:01 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 1:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 12:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM,
wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is
not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.





So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?




Education should be a lifelong and therefore neverending process.

The level of teaching, learning, debate, and writing in the most serious
upper level post-grad courses disciplines one's brain like almost nothing
found in the non-academic world.



Like all those Liberal Arts majors who go in to politics and end up in
jail? Liberal Arts degrees who end up on Wall Street and end up in jail?

Califbill October 8th 14 07:01 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM,
wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...


No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.





Advanced math is also hard science.

Harrold October 8th 14 07:01 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 11:59 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin


Yup, we know.

Harrold October 8th 14 07:05 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 1:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
The level of teaching, learning, debate, and writing in the most serious
upper level post-grad courses disciplines one's brain like almost
nothing found in the non-academic world.


--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin


Are you saying that you are not understood outside of academia?

Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 07:12 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 1:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 1:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 12:49 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 12:46 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM,
wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is
not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.





So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?




Education should be a lifelong and therefore neverending process.

The level of teaching, learning, debate, and writing in the most serious
upper level post-grad courses disciplines one's brain like almost
nothing found in the non-academic world.


I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level
post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so
it's just an opinion on my part.

You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one
hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that,
as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract
thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought
process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain
more by keeping an open mind.





Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 07:16 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 10/8/2014 11:13 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 10:40 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:56:40 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/8/2014 6:46 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

My daughter's father in law is a retired history professor and he
openly says, liberal arts college is not designed to teach you a
marketable job skill.



Hehehe. Love it.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.â€
Sarah Palin

Here ye go Harry.
These folks are having a hard time justifying a liberal arts degree.
Help em out, would ya?

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...4170042AAA0dsd



They come to the same conclusion as my son in law's dad. The only job
skill is to teach other liberal arts majors.
If you have not learned how to think, read and write well by the time
you get out of K-12, 4 more years is not going to help much.



Well, a stint in the Navy didn't help FlaJim learn how to think, eh?


Noper. I got a good job in the Navy because I already knew how to think.

On the other hand, 4 years of college didn't do it for you, so you had
to go and get more. You still can't think rationally.



I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.

KC October 8th 14 07:19 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 7:38 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:00:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 4:15 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?

They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree
and not be so disdainful of those who did.

Non responsive


Perfectly responsive to someone who is disdainful of formal higher
education.

I appreciate engineers, doctors, nurses, scientists and even, to some
extent, lawyers but just going to college, to say you went, seems
silly to me. There are plenty of guys like Bill Gates and Mark
Zuckerberg who agree with me. After a year or two they figured out
they had squeezed all the juice out of that lemon.


My 28 year old (tattooed and pierced) is making 60 a year and she got
sick one month into college and never went back. Last I knew that's about
twice what my 30 yo with a masters is making. Not to mention my 30 yo had
to change courses at least once, maybe twice and still doesn't really
work in the field she paid so much to learn. So, bottom line is both
worked their asses off for experience, difference is one got paid while
doing it, the other paid dearly and will be for a long time for it..


The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

Boating All Out October 8th 14 07:34 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
In article ,
says...


I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level
post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so
it's just an opinion on my part.


Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for
content can grant a lifetime of experience.
But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts.

You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one
hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that,
as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract
thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought
process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain
more by keeping an open mind.


Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade.
There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns.


Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 07:52 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 2:34 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level
post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so
it's just an opinion on my part.


Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for
content can grant a lifetime of experience.
But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts.

You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one
hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that,
as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract
thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought
process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain
more by keeping an open mind.


Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade.
There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns.



Shakespeare scared the crap out of me .... no, wait ... it was reading
Edgar Allen Poe that scared the crap out of me. I read "The Cask of
Amontillado" when I was about 12 or 13 years old. Shouldn't have.

Poco Loco October 8th 14 07:53 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:35:49 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 12:46 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM,
wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.


My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math.


Mine is also a Bachelor of Science in math. I did take some liberal
arts courses. And I can understand Krause saying 'simple math is a
liberal arts thingy'. The key word is 'simple'.

Califbill October 8th 14 08:48 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/8/2014 2:34 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I noted the word "almost". I think life experience trumps upper level
post-grad courses. I don't have that level of academia experience, so
it's just an opinion on my part.


Depends how you absorb learning. Certainly reading Shakespeare for
content can grant a lifetime of experience.
But until you're on the street you might not get street smarts.

You are often an interesting example of contradiction to me. On one
hand you extol the virtues and benefits of an extensive education that,
as you point out, is designed to "discipline" one's brain for abstract
thinking yet you often present with a fully cured, concrete thought
process when it comes to certain subjects. I think you learn and gain
more by keeping an open mind.


Agreed. But it doesn't hurt to call a spade a spade.
There's plenty of spades. Of course the gyre turns.



Shakespeare scared the crap out of me .... no, wait ... it was reading
Edgar Allen Poe that scared the crap out of me. I read "The Cask of
Amontillado" when I was about 12 or 13 years old. Shouldn't have.


The family was nuts. Supposedly Poe's niece lived in a house where I grew
up. Piled tires under the house and torched house and her. We found lots
of charcoal when we dug the garden.

Califbill October 8th 14 08:48 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
KC wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote:
KC wrote:
On 10/7/2014 9:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 19:57:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 7:38 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 17:00:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/7/14 4:15 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:42:57 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:48:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 12:25:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have had our third in-school accidental discharge by an armed teacher
during the still-very young 2014-2015 school year.

If your point is that school teachers are not responsible enough to
have guns, I will let you win that one.

Why should school teachers not responsible enough to have guns? Or did
you mean 'in school' after 'guns'?

They can't even remember they shouldn't date the students. How are
they going to remember where they left their gun?


Perhaps in your next life, if there is one, you'll get a college degree
and not be so disdainful of those who did.

Non responsive


Perfectly responsive to someone who is disdainful of formal higher
education.

I appreciate engineers, doctors, nurses, scientists and even, to some
extent, lawyers but just going to college, to say you went, seems
silly to me. There are plenty of guys like Bill Gates and Mark
Zuckerberg who agree with me. After a year or two they figured out
they had squeezed all the juice out of that lemon.


My 28 year old (tattooed and pierced) is making 60 a year and she got
sick one month into college and never went back. Last I knew that's about
twice what my 30 yo with a masters is making. Not to mention my 30 yo had
to change courses at least once, maybe twice and still doesn't really
work in the field she paid so much to learn. So, bottom line is both
worked their asses off for experience, difference is one got paid while
doing it, the other paid dearly and will be for a long time for it..


The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..


So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 09:00 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:



I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.



I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.â€
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 09:05 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 2:35 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 12:46 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 11:59:57 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 11:34 AM,
wrote:

I'm pretty sure I don't need any more training on zombie killing.
$10,000? I'm not taking golf lessons. :)

It is pretty easy to spend 10 grand there if you want much more than
the introduction course. The courses are up to $2000 each and there
are lots of them. If you are not staying at the Super 8 you can also
add $1000-1500 a week to live there plus a plane ticket.


Yeah, I know how much the courses cost. The one I have in mind is not an
intro course, and is about a fifth of what you quoted, including a ton
of ammo. There are some decent motels near the site for about $75 a
night, so figure another grand for room, board, car rental,
entertainment (ha!).


I get the impression that you have to take the intro course before you
can take the others and they build on each other..

Simple math: it's one of those liberal arts thingies...

No you should have learned simple math in elementary school.


Elementary, intermediate, and secondary schools *are* liberal arts
schools, unless you opt for "vocational" junior high and high school.
After all the times I've told you, you boys still don't understand what
comprises "the liberal arts."

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.


My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math.



And you think *science* is not one of the liberal arts, eh?

Perhaps this will help:

Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting
general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in
contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. In the
medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar,
rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and
astronomy (the quadrivium). In modern colleges and universities the
liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy,
history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal,
education. Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as
comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities
(literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the
physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences.

From the Britannica.

A B.S. in Math is not, per se, a professional, vocational, or technical
curriculum.



--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 09:05 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?



Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 09:36 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:



I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.



I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.



Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 09:42 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?



Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




F*O*A*D October 8th 14 09:43 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:



I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.



I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.




I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my
filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it
demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about
everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy.

In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the
**** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at
Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man
enough to stand up and take it in return.




--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.â€
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 09:45 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 09:50 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/2014 4:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating
requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are, they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.




I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my
filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it
demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about
everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy.

In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the
**** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at
Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man
enough to stand up and take it in return.





Like I said. False assumptions. It just annoys the hell out of you for
some reason that he doesn't share all his personal information in an
Internet newsgroup. Smart guy.

BTW ... *you* are the one that has him filtered.



Mr. Luddite October 8th 14 09:55 PM

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On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



F*O*A*D October 8th 14 10:09 PM

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On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Harrold October 8th 14 11:21 PM

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On 10/8/2014 4:50 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:43 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:36 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:16 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 1:58 PM, Harrold wrote:


I won't share any personal info, so suffice it to say that Harry
has no
clue what you did in the Navy. All I'll say is that the rating
requires
one of the highest scores in IQ and aptitude tests to qualify.


I had no idea the Navy recruited socially incompetent, idiot savants
like your buddy FlaJim, who are so afraid of who and what they are,
they
take extra steps here not to reveal anything, not even the now-obsolete
job they had in the service. Yawn.

One of my Jacksonville buddies retired as a machinist's mate, serving
aboard a nuclear carrier. After that, he was hired as a consultant by a
firm retained to work on reactors. Smart as he was, though, no one
could
convince him to stop smoking cigarettes and they did him in. He was
*somewhat* less secretive than your mustered out old fart buddy.



Why do secretive people annoy you so much? He does it to irritate you
more than anything else. Others who know him personally get a chuckle
out of your reactions and false assumptions about him.

'nuff said. Carry on.




I see very very few of his posts. I know he posts a lot because my
filter spits out the senders/headers. It is annoying because it
demonstrates his cowardice. He insults at will but keeps just about
everything about his life a deep dark secret. He's a pussy.

In junior high, where his development stopped, he would have had the
**** kicked out of him several times a week, at least he would have at
Sheridan. If you are going to play the game he plays, you should be man
enough to stand up and take it in return.





Like I said. False assumptions. It just annoys the hell out of you for
some reason that he doesn't share all his personal information in an
Internet newsgroup. Smart guy.

BTW ... *you* are the one that has him filtered.



Harry has turned into quite the crybaby.

Poco Loco October 8th 14 11:21 PM

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?


Constantly prying, eh Krause?

BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.

F*O*A*D October 8th 14 11:28 PM

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On 10/8/14 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.


Because, ****-for-brains, occasionally one of the right-wing brain
ruptures, like you, will requote him and if I happen to read that post
of yours...

Well, see if you can figure out the rest.



--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Harrold October 8th 14 11:29 PM

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On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting
general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities


Impressive. What can you do with all of that general knowledge and
intellectual capacities? Pass it on to others who can't figure out a
better course of study. Why didn't you become a teacher of same?

Harrold October 8th 14 11:34 PM

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On 10/8/2014 5:09 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?


You are such a turd. Why should he or would he volunteer personal
information of others without implicit permission. Nice try asshole.

Harrold October 8th 14 11:59 PM

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On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?


Constantly prying, eh Krause?

BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.

He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-)

F*O*A*D October 9th 14 02:20 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 8:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 2:35 PM,
wrote:

My buddy has a Bachelors of SCIENCE degree in math.



And you think *science* is not one of the liberal arts, eh?

Perhaps this will help:

Liberal arts, college or university curriculum aimed at imparting
general knowledge and developing general intellectual capacities in
contrast to a professional, vocational, or technical curriculum. In the
medieval European university the seven liberal arts were grammar,
rhetoric, and logic (the trivium) and geometry, arithmetic, music, and
astronomy (the quadrivium). In modern colleges and universities the
liberal arts include the study of literature, languages, philosophy,
history, mathematics, and science as the basis of a general, or liberal,
education. Sometimes the liberal-arts curriculum is described as
comprehending study of three main branches of knowledge: the humanities
(literature, language, philosophy, the fine arts, and history), the
physical and biological sciences and mathematics, and the social sciences.

From the Britannica.

A B.S. in Math is not, per se, a professional, vocational, or technical
curriculum.



You are using a pretty liberal interpretation of a liberal arts
degree.



It's the interpretation of the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and is the
classical definition.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

F*O*A*D October 9th 14 02:21 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/8/14 8:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 2:37 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.


Only people who are arrogant about it.
It seems all some get out of college is the ability to be an elitist
asshole ... and they usually profess to be men of the people.
That is people they would not stoop to talk to most of the time and
who cause them lock their car doors when they walk by.

Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns?

Because they make two liter sodapop bottles explode, of course.

--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

[email protected] October 9th 14 03:47 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 8:56:32 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:05:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:


On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"


wrote:








So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?






Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".








There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.




Only people who are arrogant about it.

It seems all some get out of college is the ability to be an elitist

asshole ... and they usually profess to be men of the people.

That is people they would not stoop to talk to most of the time and

who cause them lock their car doors when they walk by.



Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns?


Along with the video cams, alarm system, generator, and Gunsite courses?

Sounds like a Ruby Ridge in the making.

Wayne.B October 9th 14 04:18 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 07:47:37 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/7/2014 11:17 PM, wrote:
My daughter's father in law is a retired history professor and he
openly says, liberal arts college is not designed to teach you a
marketable job skill.


That's Harry's problem in a nutshell. He knows nothing of anything
worthwhile.


===

Quite literally, an educated fool.

Califbill October 9th 14 06:45 AM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:


The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..


So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.


My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.


Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.

KC October 9th 14 01:29 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/9/2014 1:45 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 14:48:09 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

KC wrote:


The problem there, is the one with the masters got a semi worthless degree.
And $60K is not that much these days.


I would be happy with it..

So would a lot of others, but is not a high salary. Is a decent salary
these days. 1980, mid level engineer made about $23k, assembly line worker
about $15k. Money is worth about 20% of 1980 dollar. So $60k is below
what an assembly line worker would now make with inflation.


My wife makes $68k as a maintenance director at a country club and she
is shopping for a construction project manager job in the $75-100 k
range
She already turned one down because it was too far away (35 miles)

Not bad for a girl in SW Florida with a high school diploma.


Not bad at all. But she has to be good to get where she is. Not a lot of
young HS diploma people making big money these days. Neither are those
with basket weaving Liberal Arts degrees. Spend $150k getting an English
degree and Masters so you can teach school at $48k a year? Maybe should
have got a science degree and start at $75k.


Wow, so fourty years after graduation someone making 68 is "not bad at
all"... but 6+ plus less than ten years out of hs is.... oh forget it.. lol

Wayne.B October 9th 14 03:05 PM

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.


===

I'd bet that you wouldn't recognize a differential equation if you
tripped over it.

Wayne.B October 9th 14 03:30 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:47:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Tell me again, why do you need all of those black guns?


Along with the video cams, alarm system, generator, and Gunsite courses?

Sounds like a Ruby Ridge in the making.


===

Harry knows that some day they will come to get him. That's what
happens when you spend your life screwing and defrauding people.

Poco Loco October 9th 14 07:01 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?


Constantly prying, eh Krause?

BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.

He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-)


If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true)
posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list,
and immediately hit the 'Delete' button.

Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons?

F*O*A*D October 9th 14 07:12 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On 10/9/14 2:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?

Constantly prying, eh Krause?

BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.

He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-)


If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true)
posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list,
and immediately hit the 'Delete' button.

Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons?



If it were you, you wouldn't know how to set up filters. I don't have to
do anything once they are set up, actually, because the filtration is
automatic on the users whose posts aren't worth any time. If I wish, I
can open up the filter and check out how many posts have been filtered,
what the topics were, and who the senders were...the header info...but
not the contents. Most of the right-wing turds are in there.

Perhaps you should stick to the multitude of time-wasting hobbies at
which you will never achieve any measure of success.



--
“My heart goes out to the people of Ebola.”
Sarah Palin

Poco Loco October 9th 14 08:45 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 10:05:46 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:51 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

*Math* is one of the liberal arts.


===

I'd bet that you wouldn't recognize a differential equation if you
tripped over it.


He used the term 'simple math', like Math for Liberal Arts Majors,
which satisfies the requirement for a math course in college.

http://www.math.rutgers.edu/courses/103/

Poco Loco October 9th 14 08:56 PM

The Moron's Way to Defend Schools...
 
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:12:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/9/14 2:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 18:59:54 -0400, Harrold wrote:

On 10/8/2014 6:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:09:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/8/14 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2014 4:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/8/14 2:37 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 13:12:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:



So, after 12 years of a liberal arts education, you needed 4-6 more?


Maybe 8 or more if you want it "Piled Higher & Deeper".



There you go again with your disdain for academic achievement.



Nothing wrong with a career in academia. Someone has to run the
Universities and Colleges.




I wasn't talking about a "career in academia." I was talking about
academic achievement. I realize that any discussions of that nature are
bound to be hooted in this pigsty of anti-intellectualism.



You are so predictable it's hilarious. I can't think of anyone here who
could be considered being "anti-intellectualism". I can think of many
however who are tired of listening to repetitive, closed minded, "my way
or the highway" comments and condemnation of other views.



Indeed...I don't read most of the "my way or the highway posts" of most
of the righties here, including your juvenile delinquent buddy, FlaJim.
BTW, did his kids join the military?

Constantly prying, eh Krause?

BTW, how do you know his posts are insulting to you? You *do* have him
filtered, correct?

You're a joke, Krause.

He looks at speshull headers that tell him so. ;-)


If it were me, and I were fearful of reading your insulting (but true)
posts, I'd look at the top of the message, see your name in the list,
and immediately hit the 'Delete' button.

Maybe Apples don't have 'Delete' buttons?



If it were you, you wouldn't know how to set up filters. I don't have to
do anything once they are set up, actually, because the filtration is
automatic on the users whose posts aren't worth any time. If I wish, I
can open up the filter and check out how many posts have been filtered,
what the topics were, and who the senders were...the header info...but
not the contents. Most of the right-wing turds are in there.

Perhaps you should stick to the multitude of time-wasting hobbies at
which you will never achieve any measure of success.


I can see you're proud of your ability to set up a filter in an Apple.
I'm also glad you can satisfy your immense curiosity by checking all
the data you check.

That is surely a much more valuable use of time than a hobby.

It is no wonder you are so proud of yourself.


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