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One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is
charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. |
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On Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:52:21 PM UTC-4, Harrold wrote:
One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. Is that you Herring? |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote:
One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? |
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On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote:
On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. |
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On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:12:38 -0500, Califbill
wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. |
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On 9/30/14 1:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. You can't hire a couple of neighborhood teenagers to mow and water your lawn once a week? We do that and we also have a pair of pre-teen sisters who come by every day to feed and water our pets. Everyone else with a lawn and pets pretty much does the same thing in order to avoid sticking their furry kids in some kennel. I'm sure the Palins will welcome you and make space in their driveway for your motel room on wheels. The Traveling Herring-Joads...another dumb reality show in the making. |
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F*O*A*D
On 9/30/14 1:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote: We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. " You can't hire a couple of neighborhood teenagers to mow and water your lawn once a week? We do that and we also have a pair of pre-teen sisters who come by every day to feed and water our pets. Everyone else with a lawn and pets pretty much does the same thing in order to avoid sticking their furry kids in some kennel. I'm sure the Palins will welcome you and make space in their driveway for your motel room on wheels. The Traveling Herring-Joads...another dumb reality show in the making. " There's a couple of unemployed right here in this newsgroup who might jump at the chance for honest work. Either the MinnieMan or his SugarDaddy in Ontario could house sit for a week or two......heck, it might even be like a paid holiday for them. Just lock up your valuables and warn the neighbours first. |
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On 9/30/14 4:10 PM, True North wrote:
F*O*A*D On 9/30/14 1:31 PM, Poco Loco wrote: We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. " You can't hire a couple of neighborhood teenagers to mow and water your lawn once a week? We do that and we also have a pair of pre-teen sisters who come by every day to feed and water our pets. Everyone else with a lawn and pets pretty much does the same thing in order to avoid sticking their furry kids in some kennel. I'm sure the Palins will welcome you and make space in their driveway for your motel room on wheels. The Traveling Herring-Joads...another dumb reality show in the making. " There's a couple of unemployed right here in this newsgroup who might jump at the chance for honest work. Either the MinnieMan or his SugarDaddy in Ontario could house sit for a week or two......heck, it might even be like a paid holiday for them. Just lock up your valuables and warn the neighbours first. Either one of those bozos would burn Herring's house down. |
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On 9/30/14 12:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. You have to like driving long distances, which I don't, and unless you have a motorized RV, you're towing a huge windcatcher. No thanks. I'll drive from here to Baltimore or Charlottesville or even to Virginia Beach or the Outer Banks. I'll take a train to Philly, NYC, New Haven, or even Boston. Perhaps it is because the main North/South interstate hereabouts is I-95, and I-95 just plain sucks a lot of the way. On the other hand, I've driven long distances on the PCH a few times, and we always enjoyed it, probably because of the terrific vistas and interesting towns. |
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Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:12:38 -0500, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. Hire a mow and blow for the yard. Get the neighbor kid to bring in the mail. I auto pay all of by recurring bills, so not a problem there. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/30/14 12:12 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. You have to like driving long distances, which I don't, and unless you have a motorized RV, you're towing a huge windcatcher. No thanks. I'll drive from here to Baltimore or Charlottesville or even to Virginia Beach or the Outer Banks. I'll take a train to Philly, NYC, New Haven, or even Boston. Perhaps it is because the main North/South interstate hereabouts is I-95, and I-95 just plain sucks a lot of the way. On the other hand, I've driven long distances on the PCH a few times, and we always enjoyed it, probably because of the terrific vistas and interesting towns. Long distance driving, not. 2 months for a 9000 mile drip is less than 200 miles a day. And can be interesting country. Long day may be a 350 mile drive, but not every day. Hell commuters around here do 60-90 mile round trip each work day, and still have to spend at least 8.5-9 hours at work. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 15:05:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm sure the Palins will welcome you and make space in their driveway for your motel room on wheels. Wasilla was the first place my wife was willing to stop and pee south of Denali. There is a big truck stop, mini mart and whatever complex right out there on the highway. I imagine Sarah was mayor then but I didn't ask if we could use her bathroom ;-) We stopped at a truck stop south of Denali, before Telkitna. Run by a Sioux from ND. Fantastic lunch. Flat bread taco. We still comment on that meal 9 years later. We actually saw the peak of Denali, and were still underwhelmed by the park. Did have good animal sightings, but limited access to the park hinders exploration. We were in our truck camper and one of the things you would of missed in the motels was the middle of the night wolf pack howling. |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:10:39 PM UTC-4, True North The Asswipe wrote:
There's a couple of unemployed right here in this newsgroup who might jump at the chance for honest work. Either the MinnieMan or his SugarDaddy in Ontario could house sit for a week or two......heck, it might even be like a paid holiday for them. Just lock up your valuables and warn the neighbours first. Your Mop and Toilets are calling, failure. |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 4:32:56 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Narcissistic Asswipe wrote:
Either one of those bozos would burn Herring's house down. krause cant let his dick out of donnies mouth for too long...it gets cold. |
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On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:49:53 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D The Slug wrote:
I wouldn't trust Carnival if I were on the boat. They wont let those with pustules on their bodies like you on them anyway. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:50:24 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:05:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You have to like driving long distances, which I don't, and unless you have a motorized RV, you're towing a huge windcatcher. No thanks. I'll drive from here to Baltimore or Charlottesville or even to Virginia Beach or the Outer Banks. I'll take a train to Philly, NYC, New Haven, or even Boston. Perhaps it is because the main North/South interstate hereabouts is I-95, and I-95 just plain sucks a lot of the way. On the other hand, I've driven long distances on the PCH a few times, and we always enjoyed it, probably because of the terrific vistas and interesting towns. Motor homes and travel trailers are pretty popular in Alaska because there are miles and miles of nothing. Unless you are in a big town or at a Carnival resort, the pickings are pretty slim in the hotel business. BTW do not trust Carnival if you are not on the boat. They can take a reservation but they can't keep one. We had confirmed reservations at Denali and Cooper Landing but they did not honor either one. They book the whole resort and bump everyone displaced by a ship passenger who signs up for the bus ride. There are lots of places like this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Fine%20Dining.jpg In Cooper Landing we ended up staying at this B&B. It really wasn't that bad. They were fairly spartan private cabins but it was clean and the people were great. Willie even married us again in a fairly authentic Eskimo ceremony http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/lovi...d%20willie.jpg Love it. I'll bet the food was pretty damn good. I wouldn't trust Carnival lines for anything. I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much less. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:10:55 -0500, Califbill
wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:12:38 -0500, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. Hire a mow and blow for the yard. Get the neighbor kid to bring in the mail. I auto pay all of by recurring bills, so not a problem there. Yeah, a nice family moved in across the street. I've had the middle kid do the yard a couple times. Works well. We'd take the dogs with us, so boarding wouldn't be necessary. |
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On 10/1/2014 8:39 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:10:55 -0500, Califbill wrote: Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:12:38 -0500, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: On 9/30/14 10:24 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:32:59 -0400, Harrold wrote: On 9/29/2014 2:30 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 20:52:21 -0400, Harrold wrote: One of my favorite destinations is Cody Wyoming. The town itself is charming but it's proximity to Yellowstone, The Beartooth Highway, The Buffalo Bill Dam and several other attractions make it worthwhile spending a week or more, there. All of the nearby campgrounds were cramped and booked solid. Nicer spots could be found near and in Yellowstone, but most had no sewer and some had no water or electric. How far in advance should reservations be attempted at those nearby campgrounds...any idea? Not sure, but I would recommend at least a month for Cody if you want full hookups. Due to a campground screwup, we had to spend our first night at Walmart with about 30 other RVs. I don't know anything about the federal campgrounds other than they looked pretty nice from the road. We've 'almost' stayed at WalMart a couple times, but changed our minds. We've stayed at Flying J's and Pilots several times. The RV's stay out front, not back with the trucks, and we've never had a problem. Usually the food is pretty good also. Ma and Pa Herring Joad. Nice thing about an RV. You can stay lots of places where there is no hotel available. In 1986, I had a sabbatical from my company. We bought a Class A motor home and towed a VW Rabbit. Did not have to worry if there was a room available when we got to an area. Ate healthier, and the kids, 10 and 13 at the time could do crafts while traveling. Was not Walmart parking in those days, but next to a lake in Georgia, nice camp ground in E. Islip, NY and take the train in to Penn station. Nice way to take 2 months to see the country. Stayed in a campground somewhere near a Metro stop for DC. Couple long days. One, for two tours of the White House. 8am for the East Wing tour, and a private west Wing tour in the evening. Helps to have friends. Nice way to travel. Not cheaper than motels, but a lot more convenient. We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. Hire a mow and blow for the yard. Get the neighbor kid to bring in the mail. I auto pay all of by recurring bills, so not a problem there. Yeah, a nice family moved in across the street. I've had the middle kid do the yard a couple times. Works well. We'd take the dogs with us, so boarding wouldn't be necessary. It helps to be friendly with the neighbors. The fellow across the street cut my grass and looked after the pool and took in the mail. He had to have the pool place put a new pump in. Ouch! $800. And the salt chlorination stopped working at the same time. Must have been a power surge or lightning strike. He fed the pool chlorine tablets until I got home to find out what was wrong. Two bridge rectifiers and a thermistor fixed that problem. Then the plumbing had to be sanitized to cure a foul odor in the water. Then there was weeds and trimming to deal with, and fire ants, who lived here unmolested for 3 1/2 months. |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:50:24 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:05:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You have to like driving long distances, which I don't, and unless you have a motorized RV, you're towing a huge windcatcher. No thanks. I'll drive from here to Baltimore or Charlottesville or even to Virginia Beach or the Outer Banks. I'll take a train to Philly, NYC, New Haven, or even Boston. Perhaps it is because the main North/South interstate hereabouts is I-95, and I-95 just plain sucks a lot of the way. On the other hand, I've driven long distances on the PCH a few times, and we always enjoyed it, probably because of the terrific vistas and interesting towns. Motor homes and travel trailers are pretty popular in Alaska because there are miles and miles of nothing. Unless you are in a big town or at a Carnival resort, the pickings are pretty slim in the hotel business. BTW do not trust Carnival if you are not on the boat. They can take a reservation but they can't keep one. We had confirmed reservations at Denali and Cooper Landing but they did not honor either one. They book the whole resort and bump everyone displaced by a ship passenger who signs up for the bus ride. There are lots of places like this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Fine%20Dining.jpg In Cooper Landing we ended up staying at this B&B. It really wasn't that bad. They were fairly spartan private cabins but it was clean and the people were great. Willie even married us again in a fairly authentic Eskimo ceremony http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/lovi...d%20willie.jpg Love it. I'll bet the food was pretty damn good. I wouldn't trust Carnival lines for anything. I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much less. If you get down to Homer, be sure to go get a beer at the Salty Dawg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/salty%20dawg.jpg The food at the Best Western was pretty good. They had an all you can eat halibut night while we were there and it was the best fish I think I have ever had. This was fresh off the boat stuff. That was also where we took the water taxi over to Kachemak state park for a real wilderness hike to a glacier fed lake. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg Best halibut we had was fish and chips at "the bus" in Hyder, AK. Her husband is a commercial fisherman, and the fish is fresh daily. http://www.hyderalaska.com/thebus.html Also a great glacier to drive to. Day we were there the helicopter was delivering supplies to remote camps, and bringing out the garbage. |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 11:57:07 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:50:24 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:05:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: You have to like driving long distances, which I don't, and unless you have a motorized RV, you're towing a huge windcatcher. No thanks. I'll drive from here to Baltimore or Charlottesville or even to Virginia Beach or the Outer Banks. I'll take a train to Philly, NYC, New Haven, or even Boston. Perhaps it is because the main North/South interstate hereabouts is I-95, and I-95 just plain sucks a lot of the way. On the other hand, I've driven long distances on the PCH a few times, and we always enjoyed it, probably because of the terrific vistas and interesting towns. Motor homes and travel trailers are pretty popular in Alaska because there are miles and miles of nothing. Unless you are in a big town or at a Carnival resort, the pickings are pretty slim in the hotel business. BTW do not trust Carnival if you are not on the boat. They can take a reservation but they can't keep one. We had confirmed reservations at Denali and Cooper Landing but they did not honor either one. They book the whole resort and bump everyone displaced by a ship passenger who signs up for the bus ride. There are lots of places like this http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Fine%20Dining.jpg In Cooper Landing we ended up staying at this B&B. It really wasn't that bad. They were fairly spartan private cabins but it was clean and the people were great. Willie even married us again in a fairly authentic Eskimo ceremony http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/lovi...d%20willie.jpg Love it. I'll bet the food was pretty damn good. I wouldn't trust Carnival lines for anything. I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much less. If you get down to Homer, be sure to go get a beer at the Salty Dawg http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/salty%20dawg.jpg The food at the Best Western was pretty good. They had an all you can eat halibut night while we were there and it was the best fish I think I have ever had. This was fresh off the boat stuff. That was also where we took the water taxi over to Kachemak state park for a real wilderness hike to a glacier fed lake. http://gfretwell.com/ftp/alaska/Glacier%20lake.jpg Looks almost like Mildenhall Glacier outside Juneau: http://tinyurl.com/n4lgnfk I'm putting all this info on my Trip to Alaska document. |
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 18:10:55 -0500, Califbill
wrote: We keep kicking around taking a couple months trip to Alaska. The problem, from my perspective, is the house and lawn. I suppose the thing to do would be to let the lawn go without watering. Now's when I wished we lived in a condo. Hire a mow and blow for the yard. Get the neighbor kid to bring in the mail. I auto pay all of by recurring bills, so not a problem there. === If you are going to be away for a while as we frequently are, there are better ways to handle mail. We use a forwarding service which is popular with boat cruisers, RV people and ex-pats. It is called St. Brendan's Isle and they provide fantastic service which we and many others have been using for years: http://www.sbimailservice.com/ We tell the post office to forward all of our mail to SBI. They scan the incoming envelopes every day and forward us a summary by EMAIL. If there is something important in the summary where we need to see the contents immediately, we check off the box for that item and return it. They then open that piece of mail (with our advance permission), scan the contents, and EMAIL it to us the next day. It's a great service, professionally done, and reasonably priced. They hold all of the paper and send it to us periodically on request via UPS or Fed Ex. All of our bills are paid electronically with online banking. The lawn and pool are under contract with service professionals that we have used for years, and we have neighbors who check up on things and let us know if anything is amiss. |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 14:30:04 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote: Looks almost like Mildenhall Glacier outside Juneau: http://tinyurl.com/n4lgnfk === We flew up there by helicopter as one of our cruise ship excursions, expensive but worth it. |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love with it. Must be a good one. |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:38:11 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 14:30:04 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: Looks almost like Mildenhall Glacier outside Juneau: http://tinyurl.com/n4lgnfk === We flew up there by helicopter as one of our cruise ship excursions, expensive but worth it. We were kicking our butts for not having done that when we went up. |
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On 10/2/2014 11:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love with it. Must be a good one. Sorry John but I am not giving up the little Honda. In fact, I am thinking about getting another one just like it. One eu2000i has enough power to keep two full sized refrigerators running plus a couple of lights, the Direct TV box and a LED TV going. During the only extended power outage we had a couple of winters ago (4 days) I tried running the furnace and recirculating pump as well. That was a bit too much for it so I think I'll get a second one just for running the heat if needed. Best thing is that with the loads described above, most of the time it runs at the "idle" speed, burping up for a second only when a compressor starts in one of the refrigerators. I can fill up the gas tank (only holds about a gallon) at 9 pm and it will run until 7am or so the next morning. |
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On 10/2/14 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 11:45 AM, wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:27:55 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love with it. Must be a good one. I have one of those 120/propane fridges in the shed. I cranked it up after Charlie but by the time it got cold, the power was back on. I plugged it in before Wilma to get it going but our power was not out any significant length of time. I am not even sure it went out. The little Honda inverter generators are really nice. Compared to the 3300 RPM fixed speed alternator they are very fuel efficient on a partial load since they can vary the engine speed. We weren't so lucky with Wilma. Power was out for over a week. Wilma is the reason I bought the Honda eu2000i and it ran 24/7 for about 9 days, stopped only to refuel once in the morning and once at night. I also had a 12,000 watt contractor generator wired into the power panel but quickly realized I'd run out of gas if the power was out for an extended time (which it was). I'd fire it up once a day for an hour to heat the water tank and run the well pump so I could take a shower, then I'd shut it off to conserve gas. We couldn't get gas anywhere. Fortunately I had filled about six, five gallon gas containers and using the little Honda for the refrig, a couple of lights and the Direct TV receiver and TV, I had enough gas to share with neighbors. We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable) tank, and the supplier promises that if the roads are passable and we are running low on gas, he'll "get there" to fill it. In fact, we had a one day outage this summer and got a call from the supplier asking if we needed a top-off. The tank was half full according to the gauge, so I said no. If we had an extended outage, we'd shut down the non-necessities, or use them minimally, leaving plenty of fuel available for the well, one of our heating/cooling units, the gas stovetop, refrigerators, and a microwave, and, of course, a few lights. The longest power outage we've had around here so far has been 4-1/2 days. Too many powerlines too close to too many trees, for the most part. |
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On 10/2/2014 12:25 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/2/14 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/2/2014 11:45 AM, wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:27:55 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love with it. Must be a good one. I have one of those 120/propane fridges in the shed. I cranked it up after Charlie but by the time it got cold, the power was back on. I plugged it in before Wilma to get it going but our power was not out any significant length of time. I am not even sure it went out. The little Honda inverter generators are really nice. Compared to the 3300 RPM fixed speed alternator they are very fuel efficient on a partial load since they can vary the engine speed. We weren't so lucky with Wilma. Power was out for over a week. Wilma is the reason I bought the Honda eu2000i and it ran 24/7 for about 9 days, stopped only to refuel once in the morning and once at night. I also had a 12,000 watt contractor generator wired into the power panel but quickly realized I'd run out of gas if the power was out for an extended time (which it was). I'd fire it up once a day for an hour to heat the water tank and run the well pump so I could take a shower, then I'd shut it off to conserve gas. We couldn't get gas anywhere. Fortunately I had filled about six, five gallon gas containers and using the little Honda for the refrig, a couple of lights and the Direct TV receiver and TV, I had enough gas to share with neighbors. We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable) tank, and the supplier promises that if the roads are passable and we are running low on gas, he'll "get there" to fill it. In fact, we had a one day outage this summer and got a call from the supplier asking if we needed a top-off. The tank was half full according to the gauge, so I said no. If we had an extended outage, we'd shut down the non-necessities, or use them minimally, leaving plenty of fuel available for the well, one of our heating/cooling units, the gas stovetop, refrigerators, and a microwave, and, of course, a few lights. The longest power outage we've had around here so far has been 4-1/2 days. Too many powerlines too close to too many trees, for the most part. We had no power outages last winter. The electric company has been on a 2 year program to trim tree limbs that overhang the lines and it has made a difference. They had trucks out on the road near our house again last week. Before they started this program we would have an occasional outage due to an accident or during a heavy snowstorm but they never lasted more than an hour or two. Not worth starting up the generator for. We just closed up the pool yesterday (hopefully for the last time). Starting to get a few bites of interest on the house which surprises me. I figured by this time of year the house hunting season would be over. Another showing and open house is scheduled for Sunday. I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. |
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Richard said..
" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. *Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. *The girl is big time into horses. *Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") *is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. *She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". *The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. *But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. " .... Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on.. |
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On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote:
Richard said.. " I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. " ... Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on. I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move. |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:43:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/2/2014 11:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco wrote: I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is much lesss. === LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12 volt refrigeration? No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love with it. Must be a good one. Sorry John but I am not giving up the little Honda. In fact, I am thinking about getting another one just like it. One eu2000i has enough power to keep two full sized refrigerators running plus a couple of lights, the Direct TV box and a LED TV going. During the only extended power outage we had a couple of winters ago (4 days) I tried running the furnace and recirculating pump as well. That was a bit too much for it so I think I'll get a second one just for running the heat if needed. Best thing is that with the loads described above, most of the time it runs at the "idle" speed, burping up for a second only when a compressor starts in one of the refrigerators. I can fill up the gas tank (only holds about a gallon) at 9 pm and it will run until 7am or so the next morning. I think two is the way to go. Then I'd have enough to even power the AC, as long as I could get my wife to leave the microwave and blow dryer off. |
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On Thursday, October 2, 2014 12:25:02 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable) tank, Sure you do....lol |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote: Richard said.. " I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. " ... Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on. I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move. It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat. |
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On 10/2/2014 8:34 PM, Roger wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote: Richard said.. " I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. " ... Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on. I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move. It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat. Not sure what that means, but whatever. |
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 02:38:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/2/2014 8:34 PM, Roger wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote: Richard said.. " I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day and night playing video games. The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart to fall into the trap. " ... Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on. I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move. It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat. Not sure what that means, but whatever. I'm thinking he responded to Harry. |
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