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On 10/2/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:27:55 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from
others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road
is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs
replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is
much lesss.

===

LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for
emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12
volt refrigeration?

No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I
know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep
hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love
with it. Must be a good one.

I have one of those 120/propane fridges in the shed. I cranked it up
after Charlie but by the time it got cold, the power was back on.
I plugged it in before Wilma to get it going but our power was not out
any significant length of time. I am not even sure it went out.

The little Honda inverter generators are really nice. Compared to the
3300 RPM fixed speed alternator they are very fuel efficient on a
partial load since they can vary the engine speed.



We weren't so lucky with Wilma. Power was out for over a week.
Wilma is the reason I bought the Honda eu2000i and it ran 24/7 for about
9 days, stopped only to refuel once in the morning and once at night.

I also had a 12,000 watt contractor generator wired into the power panel
but quickly realized I'd run out of gas if the power was out for an
extended time (which it was). I'd fire it up once a day for an hour to
heat the water tank and run the well pump so I could take a shower, then
I'd shut it off to conserve gas. We couldn't get gas anywhere.
Fortunately I had filled about six, five gallon gas containers and using
the little Honda for the refrig, a couple of lights and the Direct TV
receiver and TV, I had enough gas to share with neighbors.

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On 10/2/14 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:27:55 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from
others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road
is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs
replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is
much lesss.

===

LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for
emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12
volt refrigeration?

No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I
know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep
hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love
with it. Must be a good one.

I have one of those 120/propane fridges in the shed. I cranked it up
after Charlie but by the time it got cold, the power was back on.
I plugged it in before Wilma to get it going but our power was not out
any significant length of time. I am not even sure it went out.

The little Honda inverter generators are really nice. Compared to the
3300 RPM fixed speed alternator they are very fuel efficient on a
partial load since they can vary the engine speed.



We weren't so lucky with Wilma. Power was out for over a week.
Wilma is the reason I bought the Honda eu2000i and it ran 24/7 for about
9 days, stopped only to refuel once in the morning and once at night.

I also had a 12,000 watt contractor generator wired into the power panel
but quickly realized I'd run out of gas if the power was out for an
extended time (which it was). I'd fire it up once a day for an hour to
heat the water tank and run the well pump so I could take a shower, then
I'd shut it off to conserve gas. We couldn't get gas anywhere.
Fortunately I had filled about six, five gallon gas containers and using
the little Honda for the refrig, a couple of lights and the Direct TV
receiver and TV, I had enough gas to share with neighbors.



We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable)
tank, and the supplier promises that if the roads are passable and we
are running low on gas, he'll "get there" to fill it. In fact, we had a
one day outage this summer and got a call from the supplier asking if we
needed a top-off. The tank was half full according to the gauge, so I
said no.

If we had an extended outage, we'd shut down the non-necessities, or use
them minimally, leaving plenty of fuel available for the well, one of
our heating/cooling units, the gas stovetop, refrigerators, and a
microwave, and, of course, a few lights. The longest power outage we've
had around here so far has been 4-1/2 days. Too many powerlines too
close to too many trees, for the most part.

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On 10/2/2014 12:25 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/2/14 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 11:45 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:27:55 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from
others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the
road
is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs
replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is
much lesss.

===

LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for
emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12
volt refrigeration?

No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I
know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep
hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love
with it. Must be a good one.

I have one of those 120/propane fridges in the shed. I cranked it up
after Charlie but by the time it got cold, the power was back on.
I plugged it in before Wilma to get it going but our power was not out
any significant length of time. I am not even sure it went out.

The little Honda inverter generators are really nice. Compared to the
3300 RPM fixed speed alternator they are very fuel efficient on a
partial load since they can vary the engine speed.



We weren't so lucky with Wilma. Power was out for over a week.
Wilma is the reason I bought the Honda eu2000i and it ran 24/7 for about
9 days, stopped only to refuel once in the morning and once at night.

I also had a 12,000 watt contractor generator wired into the power panel
but quickly realized I'd run out of gas if the power was out for an
extended time (which it was). I'd fire it up once a day for an hour to
heat the water tank and run the well pump so I could take a shower, then
I'd shut it off to conserve gas. We couldn't get gas anywhere.
Fortunately I had filled about six, five gallon gas containers and using
the little Honda for the refrig, a couple of lights and the Direct TV
receiver and TV, I had enough gas to share with neighbors.



We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable)
tank, and the supplier promises that if the roads are passable and we
are running low on gas, he'll "get there" to fill it. In fact, we had a
one day outage this summer and got a call from the supplier asking if we
needed a top-off. The tank was half full according to the gauge, so I
said no.

If we had an extended outage, we'd shut down the non-necessities, or use
them minimally, leaving plenty of fuel available for the well, one of
our heating/cooling units, the gas stovetop, refrigerators, and a
microwave, and, of course, a few lights. The longest power outage we've
had around here so far has been 4-1/2 days. Too many powerlines too
close to too many trees, for the most part.


We had no power outages last winter. The electric company has been on a
2 year program to trim tree limbs that overhang the lines and it has
made a difference. They had trucks out on the road near our house again
last week.

Before they started this program we would have an occasional outage due
to an accident or during a heavy snowstorm but they never lasted more
than an hour or two. Not worth starting up the generator for.

We just closed up the pool yesterday (hopefully for the last time).
Starting to get a few bites of interest on the house which surprises me.
I figured by this time of year the house hunting season would be over.
Another showing and open house is scheduled for Sunday.

I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time
into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap.

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Richard said..

" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. *Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. *The girl is big time
into horses. *Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") *is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. *She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". *The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. *But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap. "
....


Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on..

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On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote:
Richard said..

" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time
into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap. "
...


Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd sign on.



I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move.

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On Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:43:39 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/2/2014 11:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 21:33:48 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:38:19 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:

I'd have to buy a generator if we took the trip. I understand, from
others who've done it, that spending the night by the side of the road
is pretty common. Although, now that I've got most of my bulbs
replaced with LED's (Thanks, Harold!) the drain on the batteries is
much lesss.

===

LEDs are great power savers but I think you'd want a generator for
emergency battery charging and heat if nothing else. Do you use 12
volt refrigeration?

No, refrigerator is either 120v or gas. Doesn't use much gas though. I
know I'd need a generator - will put that Honda on my wish list. Keep
hoping Luddite's going to decide he doesn't need his, but he's in love
with it. Must be a good one.



Sorry John but I am not giving up the little Honda. In fact, I am
thinking about getting another one just like it.

One eu2000i has enough power to keep two full sized refrigerators
running plus a couple of lights, the Direct TV box and a LED TV going.
During the only extended power outage we had a couple of winters ago (4
days) I tried running the furnace and recirculating pump as well. That
was a bit too much for it so I think I'll get a second one just for
running the heat if needed.

Best thing is that with the loads described above, most of the time it
runs at the "idle" speed, burping up for a second only when a compressor
starts in one of the refrigerators. I can fill up the gas tank (only
holds about a gallon) at 9 pm and it will run until 7am or so the next
morning.

I think two is the way to go. Then I'd have enough to even power the
AC, as long as I could get my wife to leave the microwave and blow
dryer off.

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On Thursday, October 2, 2014 12:25:02 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:

We have an LPG genny running off a buried 500 gallon (400 gallon usable)

tank,

Sure you do....lol

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote:
Richard said..

" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time
into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap. "
...


Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd
sign on.



I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move.


It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat.

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On 10/2/2014 8:34 PM, Roger wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote:
Richard said..

" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time
into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap. "
...


Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd
sign on.



I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move.


It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat.


Not sure what that means, but whatever.

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On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 02:38:22 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/2/2014 8:34 PM, Roger wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2014 3:34 PM, True North wrote:
Richard said..

" I thought we had a buyer a week ago. Couple with four kids, three by
his previous marriage and one 12 year old girl. The girl is big time
into horses. Two of the guy's kids are in college and the third (they
call him the "bum") is 23 years old, unemployed and hangs out all day
and night playing video games.

The woman loved the place. She walked around from room to room deciding
what each would be used for. She said the in-law/au pair suite is
perfect for "the bum". The 12 year old envisions her own horse or
horses in the barn and paddocks. But I think the husband is too smart
to fall into the trap. "
...


Maybe if you threw in the wife's horses to sweeten the deal, they'd
sign on.



I risked my life and "suggested" that to my wife. Not a good move.


It is her house. Be happy you have free rent, deadbeat.


Not sure what that means, but whatever.


I'm thinking he responded to Harry.