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F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 04:35 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.

True North[_2_] September 23rd 14 05:08 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
Amen, Brother.
Those fiscal policies are so ingrained now that it would take nothing less than an armed uprising of the working class to effect real change.
We might see it in our lifetime if the kids wakeup.

F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 05:16 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 12:08 PM, True North wrote:
Amen, Brother.
Those fiscal policies are so ingrained now that it would take nothing less than an armed uprising of the working class to effect real change.
We might see it in our lifetime if the kids wakeup.



I think it will happen, but not in our lifetime, unless we make it into
our 90's.

F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 05:28 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 12:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:35:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.



Typical Maher "don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant"

Interspersed in a few dozen laugh lines he only tries to present 3
"facts":

1. Tax breaks on corporate jets only benefit the rich

Tax breaks on corporate jets is a jobs program for the people who
build, service and fly those jets. Remember what happened to the boat
industry when they tried a luxury tax? Corporations don't pay taxes
anyway, their customers do.



Yada yada yada


F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 05:52 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:28:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/23/14 12:25 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:35:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.


Typical Maher "don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant"

Interspersed in a few dozen laugh lines he only tries to present 3
"facts":

1. Tax breaks on corporate jets only benefit the rich

Tax breaks on corporate jets is a jobs program for the people who
build, service and fly those jets. Remember what happened to the boat
industry when they tried a luxury tax? Corporations don't pay taxes
anyway, their customers do.



Yada yada yada


So you have no argument, you just babble.
You are the perfect Maher, Maddow, Olbermann fan. You just revel in
inflammatory rhetoric and ignore that it is based on lies.
How are you different than the Fox fans you denigrate?



No, I just don't buy into your view of the world that requires lower and
middle income families in this country to keep bending over so the very
rich can continue to **** them and push them back into serfdom, and
*that* is exactly what is happening in the United States.

A country in which only the superwealthy really benefit is not a country
worth defending. I read an article this morning in which Paul Ryan is
quoted describing what the Republicans will do to **** over the poor and
lower middle class if they regain control of the Senate. Why would they
do that? To put more $$$ in the pockets of the rich.

Mr. Luddite September 23rd 14 06:35 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/2014 12:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/23/14 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:28:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/23/14 12:25 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:35:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.


Typical Maher "don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant"

Interspersed in a few dozen laugh lines he only tries to present 3
"facts":

1. Tax breaks on corporate jets only benefit the rich

Tax breaks on corporate jets is a jobs program for the people who
build, service and fly those jets. Remember what happened to the boat
industry when they tried a luxury tax? Corporations don't pay taxes
anyway, their customers do.



Yada yada yada


So you have no argument, you just babble.
You are the perfect Maher, Maddow, Olbermann fan. You just revel in
inflammatory rhetoric and ignore that it is based on lies.
How are you different than the Fox fans you denigrate?



No, I just don't buy into your view of the world that requires lower and
middle income families in this country to keep bending over so the very
rich can continue to **** them and push them back into serfdom, and
*that* is exactly what is happening in the United States.

A country in which only the superwealthy really benefit is not a country
worth defending. I read an article this morning in which Paul Ryan is
quoted describing what the Republicans will do to **** over the poor and
lower middle class if they regain control of the Senate. Why would they
do that? To put more $$$ in the pockets of the rich.


Wow. The only thing I can figure is that something or someone burned
your ass badly somewhere along in your life or career.

F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 06:48 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 1:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/23/2014 12:52 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 9/23/14 12:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:28:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/23/14 12:25 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:35:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.


Typical Maher "don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant"

Interspersed in a few dozen laugh lines he only tries to present 3
"facts":

1. Tax breaks on corporate jets only benefit the rich

Tax breaks on corporate jets is a jobs program for the people who
build, service and fly those jets. Remember what happened to the boat
industry when they tried a luxury tax? Corporations don't pay taxes
anyway, their customers do.



Yada yada yada

So you have no argument, you just babble.
You are the perfect Maher, Maddow, Olbermann fan. You just revel in
inflammatory rhetoric and ignore that it is based on lies.
How are you different than the Fox fans you denigrate?



No, I just don't buy into your view of the world that requires lower and
middle income families in this country to keep bending over so the very
rich can continue to **** them and push them back into serfdom, and
*that* is exactly what is happening in the United States.

A country in which only the superwealthy really benefit is not a country
worth defending. I read an article this morning in which Paul Ryan is
quoted describing what the Republicans will do to **** over the poor and
lower middle class if they regain control of the Senate. Why would they
do that? To put more $$$ in the pockets of the rich.


Wow. The only thing I can figure is that something or someone burned
your ass badly somewhere along in your life or career.


Yeah, I realize that empathy and compassion for the poor and ****ed over
is not a trait much in demand these days.

Wayne.B September 23rd 14 07:34 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:35:35 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

No, I just don't buy into your view of the world that requires lower and
middle income families in this country to keep bending over so the very
rich can continue to **** them and push them back into serfdom, and
*that* is exactly what is happening in the United States.

A country in which only the superwealthy really benefit is not a country
worth defending. I read an article this morning in which Paul Ryan is
quoted describing what the Republicans will do to **** over the poor and
lower middle class if they regain control of the Senate. Why would they
do that? To put more $$$ in the pockets of the rich.




Wow. The only thing I can figure is that something or someone burned
your ass badly somewhere along in your life or career.


===

No doubt it was probably the banks that lent him money when he needed
it, and then wanted to be repaid at a later date. If they'd just
rolled over and forgotten about it after his business failed, Harry
would probably have a different view of them.

F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 09:10 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 2:57 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 13:48:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


Yeah, I realize that empathy and compassion for the poor and ****ed over
is not a trait much in demand these days.


If the "poor" are scabs crossing one of your picket lines your goons
would leave them bloody on the side of the road.
We already know how you feel about undocumented Latinos who are just
trying to feed their family..



Oh? How do I feel about undocumented Latinos trying to feed their families?



F*O*A*D September 23rd 14 09:13 PM

Murdering the Middle Class
 
On 9/23/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:52:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/23/14 12:36 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:28:58 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 9/23/14 12:25 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:35:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH7BUzAI9dI

Nailed.


Typical Maher "don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant"

Interspersed in a few dozen laugh lines he only tries to present 3
"facts":

1. Tax breaks on corporate jets only benefit the rich

Tax breaks on corporate jets is a jobs program for the people who
build, service and fly those jets. Remember what happened to the boat
industry when they tried a luxury tax? Corporations don't pay taxes
anyway, their customers do.



Yada yada yada

So you have no argument, you just babble.
You are the perfect Maher, Maddow, Olbermann fan. You just revel in
inflammatory rhetoric and ignore that it is based on lies.
How are you different than the Fox fans you denigrate?



No, I just don't buy into your view of the world that requires lower and
middle income families in this country to keep bending over so the very
rich can continue to **** them and push them back into serfdom, and
*that* is exactly what is happening in the United States.

A country in which only the superwealthy really benefit is not a country
worth defending. I read an article this morning in which Paul Ryan is
quoted describing what the Republicans will do to **** over the poor and
lower middle class if they regain control of the Senate. Why would they
do that? To put more $$$ in the pockets of the rich.



I specifically referred to the 3 points Bill Maher was trying to make
and how they were all bogus.

As long as you just want to talk in bumper sticker lines and not
actually give any specifics you are the yada yada guy.

You act like you think corporate dividends are a bad thing for the
middle class and you really believe taxing corporations is not simply
making them the tax collector on the consumer.
Democrats love hidden taxes that consumers pay but do not see. It is
like the employer side of FICA and that proposed VAT tax you all love.
Taxes on corporations are hidden in the products they sell and we all
pay. The corporation simply makes profit on that tax as just another
business expense that gets amortized in the price..

Maybe that liberal arts education did not explain that to you because
the professors were to "liberal" to recognize it. Maybe you should
have gone to business school.



D'oh. I know how "the system" here works.

Some of you fellas seem appalled that I don't buy into your way of
thinking about these matters. Reminds me of those christians who get
very nervous around people who don't happen to subscribe to their
particular set of superstitions.


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