On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:37:16 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:33:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:23:50 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:


Resident fights off three home invaders, KRQE, Albuquerque, N.M. 08/20/14

A man was asleep at home in Albuquerque, N.M. when a trio of armed robbers attempted to gain entry
to the residence by claiming that they were police. The criminals ultimately broke down the door and
got inside the home. The resident responded by retrieving a gun and firing at the home invaders,
striking and killing one, and wounding another. The surviving intruders fled the home, but were
later captured by police. The surviving home invaders have been charged with the murder of their
accomplice. Albequerque Police Department Public Information Officer Tanner Tixier shared some
advice for would be intruders with local media outlet KRQE, stating, "“What people need to
understand is if you join your buddy to go commit a felony and your buddy dies you can be the one
who gets charged with murder."

Sounds like they got what they deserved, administered by someone who
was sufficiently trained to undertake his own defense.

Problem is, a large percentage of guns are in the hands of people who
aren't well trained, don't store or handle weapons properly and end up
creating more danger than they're capable of solving.

I want guns in the hands of people who can handle them properly. The
gun industry and the NRA don't give a **** who has 'em. In fact,
their business case is built on the fear that the "wrong people"
(young, colored folk) have 'em. Turns out the "wrong people" are the
idiots who never take responsibility for the deadly force they own.

Yet you swing blindly in the night attacking everyone.

Huh? I'm attacking those who are too stupid to take responsibility
and those who are too calloused to make laws that will help stupid
people take their responsibility seriously.

How about some laws for the hundreds and hundreds who do the shootings on purpose?

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:43:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:28:53 -0700, jps wrote:

Your arguments are understandable and reasonable but unfortunately are
not supported by statistics. The vast majority of gun owners know how
to handle, use and store firearms safely. The accidents are by a very,
very small percentage of owners, not a "large percentage" as you state.

The accidents are in the news every single day. Toddlers to the aged.

Happened again today in a suburb of Seattle. Dead. Every single day.

===

So what? People (and toddlers) have fatal accidents all the time,
and the vast majority of such incidents do not involve guns. Go
peddle your bull**** somewhere else. And just for the record, I do
think it is stupid to let a 9 year old fire an automatic weapon. Why
not blame the stupid parents and stupid instructor instead of the gun?
The instructor by the way is elligible for a Darwin award since there
will be no repeat mistake.

In this video essay, Bill takes on the National Rifle Association, who
he refers to here as "the armed bully of American politics, the
enabler of the gunfighter nation, whose exceptionalism includes a high
tolerance for the slaughter of the innocent."

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:12:43 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/27/14 8:36 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:47:42 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:43:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:



The instructor by the way is elligible for a Darwin award since there
will be no repeat mistake.

I do find it amusing that the lefties love to skewer creationists and
wax lyrically about Darwin but when it actually comes to watching
Darwin in action they are aghast.

You think schadenfreude is an appropriate response to this guy's
death?

Should I celebrate that poor idiot's demise because it supports my
concern for pairing idiots and guns?


I love the expression of concern from the NRA on this tragic
incident...oh, wait...

They're wishing they had an American version of the Uzi so they could
use the tragedy to sell against it.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:52:02 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/27/2014 8:37 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:33:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:23:50 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:


Resident fights off three home invaders, KRQE, Albuquerque, N.M. 08/20/14

A man was asleep at home in Albuquerque, N.M. when a trio of armed robbers attempted to gain entry
to the residence by claiming that they were police. The criminals ultimately broke down the door and
got inside the home. The resident responded by retrieving a gun and firing at the home invaders,
striking and killing one, and wounding another. The surviving intruders fled the home, but were
later captured by police. The surviving home invaders have been charged with the murder of their
accomplice. Albequerque Police Department Public Information Officer Tanner Tixier shared some
advice for would be intruders with local media outlet KRQE, stating, "“What people need to
understand is if you join your buddy to go commit a felony and your buddy dies you can be the one
who gets charged with murder."

Sounds like they got what they deserved, administered by someone who
was sufficiently trained to undertake his own defense.

Problem is, a large percentage of guns are in the hands of people who
aren't well trained, don't store or handle weapons properly and end up
creating more danger than they're capable of solving.

I want guns in the hands of people who can handle them properly. The
gun industry and the NRA don't give a **** who has 'em. In fact,
their business case is built on the fear that the "wrong people"
(young, colored folk) have 'em. Turns out the "wrong people" are the
idiots who never take responsibility for the deadly force they own.

Yet you swing blindly in the night attacking everyone.

Huh? I'm attacking those who are too stupid to take responsibility
and those who are too calloused to make laws that will help stupid
people take their responsibility seriously.



You need to get realistic. You can't legislate against stupidity (or
accidents).

Seat belt laws legislate against stupidity and they work, both as a
deterrent to idiots going without and the survival rate of those
wearing them in an accident.

jps wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 07:43:24 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:28:53 -0700, jps wrote:

Your arguments are understandable and reasonable but unfortunately are
not supported by statistics. The vast majority of gun owners know how
to handle, use and store firearms safely. The accidents are by a very,
very small percentage of owners, not a "large percentage" as you state.

The accidents are in the news every single day. Toddlers to the aged.

Happened again today in a suburb of Seattle. Dead. Every single day.

===

So what? People (and toddlers) have fatal accidents all the time,
and the vast majority of such incidents do not involve guns. Go
peddle your bull**** somewhere else. And just for the record, I do
think it is stupid to let a 9 year old fire an automatic weapon. Why
not blame the stupid parents and stupid instructor instead of the gun?
The instructor by the way is elligible for a Darwin award since there
will be no repeat mistake.

In this video essay, Bill takes on the National Rifle Association, who
he refers to here as "the armed bully of American politics, the
enabler of the gunfighter nation, whose exceptionalism includes a high
tolerance for the slaughter of the innocent."

The same Bill, who imported high performance Porsche that even with his
millions, last I heard, could not get permission to drive on the street.
Why does someone need a 200 mph car for the street? Bill just supports his
excesses.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:53:28 -0400, Poco Loco wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:37:16 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:58:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 18:33:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 12:23:50 -0400, Poco Loco
wrote:


Resident fights off three home invaders, KRQE, Albuquerque, N.M. 08/20/14

A man was asleep at home in Albuquerque, N.M. when a trio of armed robbers attempted to gain entry
to the residence by claiming that they were police. The criminals ultimately broke down the door and
got inside the home. The resident responded by retrieving a gun and firing at the home invaders,
striking and killing one, and wounding another. The surviving intruders fled the home, but were
later captured by police. The surviving home invaders have been charged with the murder of their
accomplice. Albequerque Police Department Public Information Officer Tanner Tixier shared some
advice for would be intruders with local media outlet KRQE, stating, "“What people need to
understand is if you join your buddy to go commit a felony and your buddy dies you can be the one
who gets charged with murder."

Sounds like they got what they deserved, administered by someone who
was sufficiently trained to undertake his own defense.

Problem is, a large percentage of guns are in the hands of people who
aren't well trained, don't store or handle weapons properly and end up
creating more danger than they're capable of solving.

I want guns in the hands of people who can handle them properly. The
gun industry and the NRA don't give a **** who has 'em. In fact,
their business case is built on the fear that the "wrong people"
(young, colored folk) have 'em. Turns out the "wrong people" are the
idiots who never take responsibility for the deadly force they own.

Yet you swing blindly in the night attacking everyone.

Huh? I'm attacking those who are too stupid to take responsibility
and those who are too calloused to make laws that will help stupid
people take their responsibility seriously.

How about some laws for the hundreds and hundreds who do the shootings on purpose?

Notice the disregard for those, eh jps?