On 8/26/14 7:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Harrold wrote:

On 8/25/2014 4:42 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/25/14 6:17 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:19:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:05:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:00:07 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:51:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:50:15 +0100, ukaginam
wrote:


Wayne.B;1010347 Wrote:
For those of you with boats big enough that running wires and
cables
can be difficult, here is a possible interesting solution which can
take your NMEA 183 data from a chart plotter, GPS, AIS receiver,
etc.,
and transmit it over a wireless network to a PC, laptop, etc.:

http://tinyurl.com/n8da2oq

I haven't tried this yet but it looks intriguing for some future
projects that I have in mind.

if I understood it Wi fi adapter and with its aid you can sit on the
Internet from your mobile phone and tablet right?

No that is not it at all.
They mean you can stream NMEA 183 data to a device that is already
WiFi capable.
It adapts your Nav equipment to run on an existing WiFi network.
.

===

As I understand it you can stream nav data to a smart phone or tablet
with the proviso that the app can access data over a WiFi connection.
The Amazon description lists a bunch of apps which can accept data
that way. The important one for me is OpenCPN which runs on a lot of
different hardware/software platforms. With this device I could
stream NMEA 183 UDP packets from my chart plotter and receive them
simultaneously at PCs running OpenCPN on both the lower and upper
helm. I already have a cable in place to do that however so the
immediate need is not that compelling. What I'd really like now is a
capability within OpenCPN to output data to a virtual COM port for
older applications that can't access network data.

Guys like Harry would tell you to throw all of that "obsolete stuff"
away and buy the newest hardware/software setup. ;-)


===

I doubt that Harry would have any clue at all on how to configure an
instrumentation network on a boat, and his friendly "genius" at the
Apple store would be helpless also.

Given that Yale liberal arts education, I'm sure he could read the
directions...maybe he'd not
understand them, but he could read the words.




Ooooh...the bankster and the racist are giving each other handjobs.

I knew who to call to wire up the electronics on the boat, and he left
with me with computer-generated wiring diagrams and backup plans. The
factory did a good job with what it did, and the guy I hired did a
better job with what he did. We have a main system for nav, and a
completely independent backup system and, of course, I have chart
plotting capabilities on my laptop and on my iPhone. If I took the same
damned trip as many times as the bankster had taken the same trips, I'd
have everything pretty much memorized, except for the infrequently
reported depth changes. It's not difficult to get from here to Long
Island Sound, eh?



Great story!

Yale University takes great pride in its ability to develop great tellers of tall tales.



It's always a gas, albeit a noxious gas, to hear from two of the
non-boating racists in rec.boats.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Harrold wrote:

On 8/25/2014 4:42 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/25/14 6:17 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:19:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:05:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:00:07 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:51:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:50:15 +0100, ukaginam
wrote:


Wayne.B;1010347 Wrote:
For those of you with boats big enough that running wires and
cables
can be difficult, here is a possible interesting solution which can
take your NMEA 183 data from a chart plotter, GPS, AIS receiver,
etc.,
and transmit it over a wireless network to a PC, laptop, etc.:

http://tinyurl.com/n8da2oq

I haven't tried this yet but it looks intriguing for some future
projects that I have in mind.

if I understood it Wi fi adapter and with its aid you can sit on the
Internet from your mobile phone and tablet right?

No that is not it at all.
They mean you can stream NMEA 183 data to a device that is already
WiFi capable.
It adapts your Nav equipment to run on an existing WiFi network.
.

===

As I understand it you can stream nav data to a smart phone or tablet
with the proviso that the app can access data over a WiFi connection.
The Amazon description lists a bunch of apps which can accept data
that way. The important one for me is OpenCPN which runs on a lot of
different hardware/software platforms. With this device I could
stream NMEA 183 UDP packets from my chart plotter and receive them
simultaneously at PCs running OpenCPN on both the lower and upper
helm. I already have a cable in place to do that however so the
immediate need is not that compelling. What I'd really like now is a
capability within OpenCPN to output data to a virtual COM port for
older applications that can't access network data.

Guys like Harry would tell you to throw all of that "obsolete stuff"
away and buy the newest hardware/software setup. ;-)


===

I doubt that Harry would have any clue at all on how to configure an
instrumentation network on a boat, and his friendly "genius" at the
Apple store would be helpless also.

Given that Yale liberal arts education, I'm sure he could read the
directions...maybe he'd not
understand them, but he could read the words.




Ooooh...the bankster and the racist are giving each other handjobs.

I knew who to call to wire up the electronics on the boat, and he left
with me with computer-generated wiring diagrams and backup plans. The
factory did a good job with what it did, and the guy I hired did a
better job with what he did. We have a main system for nav, and a
completely independent backup system and, of course, I have chart
plotting capabilities on my laptop and on my iPhone. If I took the same
damned trip as many times as the bankster had taken the same trips, I'd
have everything pretty much memorized, except for the infrequently
reported depth changes. It's not difficult to get from here to Long
Island Sound, eh?



Great story!

Yale University takes great pride in its ability to develop great tellers of tall tales.

On 8/26/2014 5:48 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:33:19 -0600, Harrold wrote:

On 8/25/2014 4:42 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/25/14 6:17 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:19:12 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:05:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:00:07 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:51:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:50:15 +0100, ukaginam
wrote:


Wayne.B;1010347 Wrote:
For those of you with boats big enough that running wires and
cables
can be difficult, here is a possible interesting solution which can
take your NMEA 183 data from a chart plotter, GPS, AIS receiver,
etc.,
and transmit it over a wireless network to a PC, laptop, etc.:

http://tinyurl.com/n8da2oq

I haven't tried this yet but it looks intriguing for some future
projects that I have in mind.

if I understood it Wi fi adapter and with its aid you can sit on the
Internet from your mobile phone and tablet right?

No that is not it at all.
They mean you can stream NMEA 183 data to a device that is already
WiFi capable.
It adapts your Nav equipment to run on an existing WiFi network.
.

===

As I understand it you can stream nav data to a smart phone or tablet
with the proviso that the app can access data over a WiFi connection.
The Amazon description lists a bunch of apps which can accept data
that way. The important one for me is OpenCPN which runs on a lot of
different hardware/software platforms. With this device I could
stream NMEA 183 UDP packets from my chart plotter and receive them
simultaneously at PCs running OpenCPN on both the lower and upper
helm. I already have a cable in place to do that however so the
immediate need is not that compelling. What I'd really like now is a
capability within OpenCPN to output data to a virtual COM port for
older applications that can't access network data.

Guys like Harry would tell you to throw all of that "obsolete stuff"
away and buy the newest hardware/software setup. ;-)


===

I doubt that Harry would have any clue at all on how to configure an
instrumentation network on a boat, and his friendly "genius" at the
Apple store would be helpless also.

Given that Yale liberal arts education, I'm sure he could read the
directions...maybe he'd not
understand them, but he could read the words.




Ooooh...the bankster and the racist are giving each other handjobs.

I knew who to call to wire up the electronics on the boat, and he left
with me with computer-generated wiring diagrams and backup plans. The
factory did a good job with what it did, and the guy I hired did a
better job with what he did. We have a main system for nav, and a
completely independent backup system and, of course, I have chart
plotting capabilities on my laptop and on my iPhone. If I took the same
damned trip as many times as the bankster had taken the same trips, I'd
have everything pretty much memorized, except for the infrequently
reported depth changes. It's not difficult to get from here to Long
Island Sound, eh?



Great story!

Yale University takes great pride in its ability to develop great tellers of tall tales.

Harry attended Yale when it was called Hillhorse School For Wayward
Minority Children. When he graduated he was well versed in the ways of a
ne'er do well society.

On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:09:00 -0600, slide
wrote:

On 8/24/2014 8:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
For those of you with boats big enough that running wires and cables
can be difficult, here is a possible interesting solution which can
take your NMEA 183 data from a chart plotter, GPS, AIS receiver, etc.,
and transmit it over a wireless network to a PC, laptop, etc.:

http://www.amazon.com/DIGITAL-DYT-ZDIGWLN10-ZDIGWLN10-Converts-Compatible/dp/B00JUZ71EY

I haven't tried this yet but it looks intriguing for some future
projects that I have in mind.


Yes, but no peer reviews yet in too. I'm also a bit bemused that it's
WiFi b+g. I'd think at least N given we're in 2014.

===

It turns out that I've been able to send a lot of my NMEA data over
WiFi without purchasing any hardware at all (assuming you've got an
extra lap top laying around). The trick is something called OpenCPN
software which is nominally a charting program but in reality has
become much more. OpenCPN has the ability to establish network
connections, both inbound and outbound. By using an old laptop to
take in all of my NMEA data on serial ports (GPS data from the chart
plotter and AIS data from the VHF radio), I can then send the data
back out over the WiFi network by doing a UDP broadcast to TCP/IP
address 192.168.0.255:1. Any other computer on the boat can receive
that datastream on the same IP address and port number so I can have
multiple computers at different locations displaying and processing
navigation data.

There is another open source program called NMEA Router that I'm
experimenting with. NMEA router supposedly has the ability to create
virtual COM ports and send data to them. My Airmar Weathercaster
software (virtual weather station) has the ability to receive data
over a USB COM port but not over a network connectionn. NMEA Router
should solve that problem if I can get the virtual COM port feature
working properly. Stay tuned.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
===

It turns out that I've been able to send a lot of my NMEA data over
WiFi without purchasing any hardware at all (assuming you've got an
extra lap top laying around). The trick is something called OpenCPN
software which is nominally a charting program but in reality has
become much more. OpenCPN has the ability to establish network
connections, both inbound and outbound. By using an old laptop to
take in all of my NMEA data on serial ports (GPS data from the chart
plotter and AIS data from the VHF radio), I can then send the data
back out over the WiFi network by doing a UDP broadcast to TCP/IP
address 192.168.0.255:1. Any other computer on the boat can receive
that datastream on the same IP address and port number so I can have
multiple computers at different locations displaying and processing
navigation data.

There is another open source program called NMEA Router that I'm
experimenting with. NMEA router supposedly has the ability to create
virtual COM ports and send data to them. My Airmar Weathercaster
software (virtual weather station) has the ability to receive data
over a USB COM port but not over a network connectionn. NMEA Router
should solve that problem if I can get the virtual COM port feature
working properly. Stay tuned.


Wayne, I've lost your email or I'd not clutter the thread here - but I cc'd
one which may well be out of date...

I'm in the process of trying to isolate why my chartplotter doesn't have a
GPS fix unless my computer's connected to the serial port my electronic
charts use.

A workaround for that would be that I don't TRY to get my NMEA data IN to my
serial port, but rather put OUT the data I get from my USB puck, with its
built-in Prolific USB-serial adapter, or not at all, and have the computer
only as backup eyes-on-the-water.

Do you know how I'd set up for routing data from com6 to com1 (after, of
course, the computer behaved as the first listener), in the event I were to
try to use it as backup, driving the autopilot and/or chartplotter?

Also, I get garbage characters in a string, sometimes very long, after my
sentence sequence from my DigitalYacht GPS105, recommended to me by
Raymarine after my RS125 apparently died - but now, I wonder, as it MAY have
been that I didn't have my computer on during the tests. I suspect that
since those strings end at the location sentence's start, it may interfere
with the chartplotter (or computer, for that matter)'s ability to "find me."

The symptom, which the manufacturer has been diligently working with me on
along with my wiring diagrams to start over in my setup, he claims, is a
problem with the serial interface, and that it would go away over their
USB-serial adapter - which is, from their diagram, a USB male to raw lines
connected to the GPS. I have trouble believing that a simple RS232 port
would introduce that sort of junk, especially since that's been around for
umpty generations of computer progress. And, meanwhile, I have plenty of
USB cables I could sacrifice to merely hook up, unless there's some sort of
software inside their raw-ended cable, if that were ACTUALLY the cause.

Can you agree with that assessment? It's not at all critical that I have
the GPS105 (given that I can use the puck) to the serial port, but it would
be nice as a backup, so long as I didn't use it on incoming with the 105 at
the helm (I'd use the 105 for driving the SSB, VHF and chartplotter, and, if
that failed, running the computer with whatever modus would pass the
signal/sentences, leading the output from the serial to the same legs as
would be the incoming 105).

As intriguing as it is, I think trying to emulate yours is a bit above my
pay grade, let alone a delay to leave, a real no-no aboard, currently.

Thanks.

L8R

Skip, who isn't in RB but only in RBC, in the event there are some over
there who can help; you'd have to crosspost for me to see it...


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On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:57:27 -0400, "Flying Pig"
wrote:

Wayne, I've lost your email or I'd not clutter the thread here - but I cc'd
one which may well be out of date...

I'm in the process of trying to isolate why my chartplotter doesn't have a
GPS fix unless my computer's connected to the serial port my electronic
charts use.

===

Skip, sorry for the delay but just got home and have not been checking
USENET all that faithfully while we were underway south.

Are you saying that your chart plotter is not coming up with a GPS
position unless your computer is attached? Does it have its own GPS
antenna? Is it configured properly to use the antenna? I'd start by
totally disconnecting the computer interface and then work with
customer support as though it was a stand alone unit. It could be an
antenna problem, a cabling/connector problem or possibly a
configuration issue.

You WROTE

It turns out that I've been able to send a lot of my NMEA data over
WiFi without purchasing any hardware at all (assuming you've got an
extra lap top laying around). The trick is something called OpenCPN
software which is nominally a charting program but in reality has
become much more. OpenCPN has the ability to establish network
connections, both inbound and outbound. By using an old laptop to
take in all of my NMEA data on serial ports (GPS data from the chart
plotter and AIS data from the VHF radio), I can then send the data
back out over the WiFi network by doing a UDP broadcast to TCP/IP
address 192.168.0.255:1. Any other computer on the boat can receive
that datastream on the same IP address and port number so I can have
multiple computers at different locations displaying and processing
navigation data.


This is very interresting !
I can not succed to do that. When the PC is connected with cable it works but not when is only connected with WIFI to a local network
Can you tell us more about the configuration of the clients and the configurations of the server both on opencpn parameters and wiindows parameters
Thanks for help
Gilles