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That's an undoubtedly bad reading of U.S. policy.


How do you think that is wrong?
It certainly is not oil.
We would buy the oil from whomever controls the region.



Really? Buy oil from ISIS? You're kidding.

You only have to look at the other places with evil things going where
we have no problem buying oil to see that. Oil companies and dictators
get along just fine.

Without the Israel problem, we would just pull out the military and
let the big dog eat.



How does that address Iran seeking nukes?

This is a good enough policy statement.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2...ast_strategy_b
ack_to_balancing
"So what are U.S. interests in the Middle East? I'd say the United
States has three strategic interests and two moral interests. The three
strategic interests are 1) keeping oil and gas from the region flowing
to world markets, to keep the global economy humming; 2) minimizing the
danger of anti-American terrorism; and 3) inhibiting the spread of
weapons of mass destruction. The two moral interests are 1) promotion of
human rights and participatory government, and 2) helping ensure
Israel's survival. "

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On Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:23:44 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:

Air power would make them an easy target - easy to locate and easy to

hit. The US has better air combat and defensive capability than

anyone else.


Yes, but.....take out their Computers, and , or Satellite, and they're nothing.
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:11:08 -0400, wrote:

On 21 Aug 2014 21:07:14 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:28:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/21/14 4:03 PM,
wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 18:54:50 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:12:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:18:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have the snake handlers, venom drinkers, devil worshipers, women
haters, sex haters, female genital mutilators, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Qaida,
Haredi, Unification Church, Scientology, Holy Underwear-wearers, Church
of Euthanasia, People's Temple, Branch Davidians, Nation of Yahweh,
rapture-ready, pope-is-antichrist and now Quannengshen.

Religion is so uplifting.

You left out Zionism.

Strange, huh?

Zionism isn't a religion.

Neither is "ISIS, Taliban or Al-Qaida"

Zionism has no requirements that its acolytes adhere to any form of
Judaism. The three groups you mentioned are fundamentalist Muslim
religious organizations, and all three engage in forced adherence to an
interpretation of the Koran and all three pursue forced religious
conversions. There are significant numbers of Jews in Israel and
elsewhere who are revisionist Zionists and have no religious affilition,
other than being born in a family in which the mother was Jewish.

A distinction without a difference


Absurd.


Are you going to say Israel is not a religious state?

How many Muslims, or even Christians are in any actual position of
authority?
Most can't even vote.


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Poor Harry, once again tangled up in his land of make believe.
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 20:25:32 -0400, wrote:

If we had not given Israel nukes, they would not feel the need to have
them.


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Interesting assertion. Do you know that for a fact?
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On 8/21/14 8:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 21:07:14 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:28:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/21/14 4:03 PM,
wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 18:54:50 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:12:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:18:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have the snake handlers, venom drinkers, devil worshipers, women
haters, sex haters, female genital mutilators, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Qaida,
Haredi, Unification Church, Scientology, Holy Underwear-wearers, Church
of Euthanasia, People's Temple, Branch Davidians, Nation of Yahweh,
rapture-ready, pope-is-antichrist and now Quannengshen.

Religion is so uplifting.

You left out Zionism.

Strange, huh?

Zionism isn't a religion.

Neither is "ISIS, Taliban or Al-Qaida"

Zionism has no requirements that its acolytes adhere to any form of
Judaism. The three groups you mentioned are fundamentalist Muslim
religious organizations, and all three engage in forced adherence to an
interpretation of the Koran and all three pursue forced religious
conversions. There are significant numbers of Jews in Israel and
elsewhere who are revisionist Zionists and have no religious affilition,
other than being born in a family in which the mother was Jewish.

A distinction without a difference


Absurd.


Are you going to say Israel is not a religious state?

How many Muslims, or even Christians are in any actual position of
authority?
Most can't even vote.


The question was not whether Israel was a religious state. The question
was whether Zionism was a religion. It is not. The distinction is
significant.

Perhaps if you had taken some liberal arts classes sometime in your
life, you would have fewer problems with semantics and etymology.
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:20:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/21/14 8:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 21:07:14 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:28:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/21/14 4:03 PM,
wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 18:54:50 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:12:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:18:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


We have the snake handlers, venom drinkers, devil worshipers, women
haters, sex haters, female genital mutilators, ISIS, Taliban, Al-Qaida,
Haredi, Unification Church, Scientology, Holy Underwear-wearers, Church
of Euthanasia, People's Temple, Branch Davidians, Nation of Yahweh,
rapture-ready, pope-is-antichrist and now Quannengshen.

Religion is so uplifting.

You left out Zionism.

Strange, huh?

Zionism isn't a religion.

Neither is "ISIS, Taliban or Al-Qaida"

Zionism has no requirements that its acolytes adhere to any form of
Judaism. The three groups you mentioned are fundamentalist Muslim
religious organizations, and all three engage in forced adherence to an
interpretation of the Koran and all three pursue forced religious
conversions. There are significant numbers of Jews in Israel and
elsewhere who are revisionist Zionists and have no religious affilition,
other than being born in a family in which the mother was Jewish.

A distinction without a difference

Absurd.


Are you going to say Israel is not a religious state?

How many Muslims, or even Christians are in any actual position of
authority?
Most can't even vote.


The question was not whether Israel was a religious state. The question
was whether Zionism was a religion. It is not. The distinction is
significant.

Perhaps if you had taken some liberal arts classes sometime in your
life, you would have fewer problems with semantics and etymology.


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Translation: Harry has lost the argument and he will now attempt to
save face with liberal farts, semantics and etymology - as if he
invented them.
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On 8/21/2014 7:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/21/14 8:11 PM, wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 21:07:14 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:28:19 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 8/21/14 4:03 PM,
wrote:
On 21 Aug 2014 18:54:50 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:12:09 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:18:45 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:


We have the snake handlers, venom drinkers, devil worshipers,
women
haters, sex haters, female genital mutilators, ISIS, Taliban,
Al-Qaida,
Haredi, Unification Church, Scientology, Holy
Underwear-wearers, Church
of Euthanasia, People's Temple, Branch Davidians, Nation of
Yahweh,
rapture-ready, pope-is-antichrist and now Quannengshen.

Religion is so uplifting.

You left out Zionism.

Strange, huh?

Zionism isn't a religion.

Neither is "ISIS, Taliban or Al-Qaida"

Zionism has no requirements that its acolytes adhere to any form of
Judaism. The three groups you mentioned are fundamentalist Muslim
religious organizations, and all three engage in forced adherence
to an
interpretation of the Koran and all three pursue forced religious
conversions. There are significant numbers of Jews in Israel and
elsewhere who are revisionist Zionists and have no religious
affilition,
other than being born in a family in which the mother was Jewish.

A distinction without a difference

Absurd.


Are you going to say Israel is not a religious state?

How many Muslims, or even Christians are in any actual position of
authority?
Most can't even vote.


The question was not whether Israel was a religious state. The question
was whether Zionism was a religion. It is not. The distinction is
significant.

Perhaps if you had taken some liberal arts classes sometime in your
life, you would have fewer problems with semantics and etymology.


So what use have you made of your masters degree in etymology.
Obviously, it hasn't helped to pay your bills.

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