On 8/5/2014 11:01 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 11:30 AM, amdx wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

Mikek

Some interesting Statistics.

Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

State Hourly Wage Equivalent

Hawaii $17.50
Alaska $15.48
Massachusetts $14.66
Connecticut $14.23
Washington, D.C. $13.99
New York $13.13
New Jersey $12.55
Rhode Island $12.55
California $11.59
Virginia $11.11

From,
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

A few of those are more than my wife and I earn working for our money.

Mikek

On 8/5/14 7:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 11:01 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 11:30 AM, amdx wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

Mikek

Some interesting Statistics.

Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

State Hourly Wage Equivalent

Hawaii $17.50
Alaska $15.48
Massachusetts $14.66
Connecticut $14.23
Washington, D.C. $13.99
New York $13.13
New Jersey $12.55
Rhode Island $12.55
California $11.59
Virginia $11.11

From,
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

A few of those are more than my wife and I earn working for our money.

Mikek



Well, you could always sell the shrimp shack, go to work for Costco, and
double your family income.

On 8/5/2014 6:11 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 7:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 11:01 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 11:30 AM, amdx wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

Mikek

Some interesting Statistics.

Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

State Hourly Wage Equivalent

Hawaii $17.50
Alaska $15.48
Massachusetts $14.66
Connecticut $14.23
Washington, D.C. $13.99
New York $13.13
New Jersey $12.55
Rhode Island $12.55
California $11.59
Virginia $11.11

From,
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

A few of those are more than my wife and I earn working for our money.

Mikek



Well, you could always sell the shrimp shack, go to work for Costco, and
double your family income.

Costco pays $30.00 an Hr?
Besides, about 2-1/2 years and I'm retiring, I'll start spending my
savings. Actually, my wife's says she is going to keep working, so
I'll probably sponge of her till I'm 66y and 3mo.

But the point is, welfare can be a damn good living, of course with
all that free time you might spend more money.

Mikek

On 8/5/14 7:28 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:11 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 7:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 11:01 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 11:30 AM, amdx wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

Mikek

Some interesting Statistics.

Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

State Hourly Wage Equivalent

Hawaii $17.50
Alaska $15.48
Massachusetts $14.66
Connecticut $14.23
Washington, D.C. $13.99
New York $13.13
New Jersey $12.55
Rhode Island $12.55
California $11.59
Virginia $11.11

From,
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

A few of those are more than my wife and I earn working for our money.

Mikek



Well, you could always sell the shrimp shack, go to work for Costco, and
double your family income.

Costco pays $30.00 an Hr?
Besides, about 2-1/2 years and I'm retiring, I'll start spending my
savings. Actually, my wife's says she is going to keep working, so
I'll probably sponge of her till I'm 66y and 3mo.

But the point is, welfare can be a damn good living, of course with
all that free time you might spend more money.

Mikek


If each of you worked at Costco, you could make more than $30 an hour as
a couple.

Welfare is a crappy living.

On 8/5/2014 6:33 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 7:28 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:11 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 7:05 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/5/2014 11:01 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 11:30 AM, amdx wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/is-thinking-now-obsolete/

Mikek

Some interesting Statistics.

Top 10 Hourly Wage Equivalent Welfare States in U.S.

State Hourly Wage Equivalent

Hawaii $17.50
Alaska $15.48
Massachusetts $14.66
Connecticut $14.23
Washington, D.C. $13.99
New York $13.13
New Jersey $12.55
Rhode Island $12.55
California $11.59
Virginia $11.11

From,
http://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

A few of those are more than my wife and I earn working for our money.

Mikek



Well, you could always sell the shrimp shack, go to work for Costco, and
double your family income.

Costco pays $30.00 an Hr?
Besides, about 2-1/2 years and I'm retiring, I'll start spending my
savings. Actually, my wife's says she is going to keep working, so
I'll probably sponge of her till I'm 66y and 3mo.

But the point is, welfare can be a damn good living, of course with
all that free time you might spend more money.

Mikek


If each of you worked at Costco, you could make more than $30 an hour as
a couple.


I'm very surprised, I didn't know they paid that well!

Welfare is a crappy living.

Why do so many make it a lifestyle?

Mikek

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On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:14:27 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 8/5/2014 6:33 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

If each of you worked at Costco, you could make more than $30 an hour as
a couple.


I'm very surprised, I didn't know they paid that well!


Only if both are managers.

Here they pay in excess of $15 an hour for regular workers. So couple
would make in excess of $30 an hour.

On 8/6/2014 1:59 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:14:27 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 8/5/2014 6:33 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

If each of you worked at Costco, you could make more than $30 an hour as
a couple.


I'm very surprised, I didn't know they paid that well!


Only if both are managers.

Here they pay in excess of $15 an hour for regular workers. So couple
would make in excess of $30 an hour.


I've been out of the job market for 15 years, guess I'm behind the
times :-)
Mikek

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wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2014 01:59:31 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 21:14:27 -0500, amdx wrote:

On 8/5/2014 6:33 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

If each of you worked at Costco, you could make more than $30 an hour as
a couple.


I'm very surprised, I didn't know they paid that well!


Only if both are managers.

Here they pay in excess of $15 an hour for regular workers. So couple
would make in excess of $30 an hour.

According to glassdoor the average for associates is more like $11 and
you don't break the $15 barrier until you are some kind of supervisor.
California may be the exception, along with Hawaii, Alaska and parts
of New York.,

McD's pays $10.50 to start most urban places in California. And seems as
if the Mexican's they are able to hire, as they work, also can do math
better than the American kids.

On 8/7/2014 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:45:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

Why wouldn't you start to collect your social security at 62? If you
don't spend it you should invest it. You never know when you are going
to die and do you really want the government holding onto your money for
an extra 4 years and 3 months?

The last time I saw someone run those numbers, the crossover age was
82-83. If you live longer than that, you were better off waiting.

That does not assume any return from investing the money tho. Most
people don't. I am saving mine but that is not the same as investing
it, considering what interest rates are. I originally called it my
"new boat fund" but I never bought the new boat.
I have saved up enough to buy the house next door tho. I am getting
ready to steal it on a tax deed sale if the mortgage company doesn't
move pretty fast.

When I ran the numbers several years ago, I factored in a 5% COL
increase and the crossover point was around 87. So I think your numbers
are pretty close, give or take a year or so. I'm with Bar. The sooner
you get the Govt. to start paying back your money, the better.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/7/2014 12:32 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:45:06 -0400, BAR wrote:

Why wouldn't you start to collect your social security at 62? If you
don't spend it you should invest it. You never know when you are going
to die and do you really want the government holding onto your money for
an extra 4 years and 3 months?

The last time I saw someone run those numbers, the crossover age was
82-83. If you live longer than that, you were better off waiting.

That does not assume any return from investing the money tho. Most
people don't. I am saving mine but that is not the same as investing
it, considering what interest rates are. I originally called it my
"new boat fund" but I never bought the new boat.
I have saved up enough to buy the house next door tho. I am getting
ready to steal it on a tax deed sale if the mortgage company doesn't
move pretty fast.

When I ran the numbers several years ago, I factored in a 5% COL increase
and the crossover point was around 87. So I think your numbers are pretty
close, give or take a year or so. I'm with Bar. The sooner you get the
Govt. to start paying back your money, the better.

9 years ago, when I started collecting, the SS guy said the break even
point was 79. Maybe higher now. Different interest rates.