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On 8/5/2014 5:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. You can be one of the 5% and retire comfortably, and then with SS. yipee! |
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#3
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On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of "Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed. I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed." Sort of a union mentality. |
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#4
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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of "Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed. I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed." Sort of a union mentality. Thank you, Mitt! -- Posted from my iPhone |
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#5
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On 8/5/2014 8:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of "Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed. I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed." Sort of a union mentality. Thank you, Mitt! You betcha. |
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#6
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On 8/5/2014 6:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of "Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed. I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed." Sort of a union mentality. Thank you, Mitt! Luddite supported O'Bama in two elections. How can you call him Mitt, unless you are acknowledging that Luddite finally saw the light and realized that he got snookered by O'Bama. -- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them". Thomas Jefferson |
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#7
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On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:23:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/5/2014 6:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 6:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 5:30 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 4:34 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/5/2014 2:53 PM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 8/5/14 12:24 PM, wrote: On Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:00:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: There's very little "safety net" left in this country. We're so ****ed up in this country, Public assistance can easily top $35,000 a year. That is more than 90% of the world makes, working. we don't even mandate a modest vacation with pay each year, as virtually every other modern, civilized nation does. Mostly the ones who are going broke. Do you really want us to emulate France and Italy? 1. What's "public assistance" amount to in your neck of the woods for a single mom with three dependent kids? 2. No, not "mostly the ones who are going broke." Most modern civilized nations have mandated paid vacation periods for private and public sector workers. No one has done more since the 1980s to **** over this country than the rich. I don't think anyone has a complaint about a single mom with three dependent kids collecting assistance. However, there should be (if there isn't already) a limit to how much assistance she receives based on the number of kids she has. Hold the fathers responsible and accountable. As far as vacations ... the government has no place mandating vacations in the private work sector. The USA is *not* Europe and to compare our work culture to European countries isn't meaningful. Every company I knew of during my working career included paid vacations for full time employees, BTW. There are many, many Europeans who have immigrated permanently to the USA or are here on long term green cards pursuing a career in the States. I know several and there's a reason they come here. As I stated, American corporations rule and they are intent on pushing workers back towards serfdom. Yawn. Well, sure, you're one of the 1% and a retiree. My status, your status and/or anyone elses status is not the point or the issue. I object to your continuous and broad brush portrait of "Corporate America" as being the enemy of their employees in terms of pay, benefits and well-being. There are plenty of examples of companies who value their employees ... (after all, the company *is* the employees), who encourage and make available opportunities for growth and earning power for those inclined and modivated to succeed. I've always noticed that those who complain the most about employers are are usually those who perform their tasks to the basic minimum requirements, simply putting in the hours and then bitching that they aren't paid what they think they deserve. "I exist, therefore I am owed." Sort of a union mentality. Preach on! |
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#8
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On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 8:23:01 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Sort of a union mentality. Shut up, asshole. |
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