On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:50:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/3/2014 3:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:17:47 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/3/2014 2:02 PM, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


And to even consider for a second that harry represented the facts
properly and honestly would be pretty foolish... Just sayin'.

There does seem to be a bit of misdirection if not pure bull**** in
Harry's cut and paste rant.
A guy who graduates high school at the top of his class and performed
as well in undergrad school does not sound like an "affirmative
action" student.
His mother worked at least 2 jobs most of his life and concentrated on
his education.

Harry must be profiling when he assumes there was that much public
assistance. Maybe he is just prejudiced against poor black people.


It's been documented. If you are that interested, it is easy enough to
find. Here's an interesting quote from Carson himself:

Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a
government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could
barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By
the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she
received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and
kept up the house without that subsidy.”




Dr. Carson is an example of what those programs are intended to do. Not
all will become neurosurgeons but the programs are intended to give
motivated people an opportunity. Unfortunately not all take advantage
of the government programs and the become dependent on them for life.

So which one of the leftist blogs/news outlets that you subscribe to
sent you that data sheet on Carson? Can only mean that the Dems are
becoming a little concerned with Hilary's waning popularity.

Doubt Krause will answer your question. Plagiarism is his style.

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 15:50:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/3/2014 3:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:17:47 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/3/2014 2:02 PM, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


And to even consider for a second that harry represented the facts
properly and honestly would be pretty foolish... Just sayin'.

There does seem to be a bit of misdirection if not pure bull**** in
Harry's cut and paste rant.
A guy who graduates high school at the top of his class and performed
as well in undergrad school does not sound like an "affirmative
action" student.
His mother worked at least 2 jobs most of his life and concentrated on
his education.

Harry must be profiling when he assumes there was that much public
assistance. Maybe he is just prejudiced against poor black people.


It's been documented. If you are that interested, it is easy enough to
find. Here's an interesting quote from Carson himself:

Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a
government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could
barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By
the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she
received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and
kept up the house without that subsidy.”




Dr. Carson is an example of what those programs are intended to do. Not
all will become neurosurgeons but the programs are intended to give
motivated people an opportunity. Unfortunately not all take advantage
of the government programs and the become dependent on them for life.

So which one of the leftist blogs/news outlets that you subscribe to
sent you that data sheet on Carson? Can only mean that the Dems are
becoming a little concerned with Hilary's waning popularity.

He

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/07/star...dr-ben-carson/

On 8/3/2014 1:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:17:47 -0400, KC wrote:

On 8/3/2014 2:02 PM, wrote:

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


And to even consider for a second that harry represented the facts
properly and honestly would be pretty foolish... Just sayin'.

There does seem to be a bit of misdirection if not pure bull**** in
Harry's cut and paste rant.
A guy who graduates high school at the top of his class and performed
as well in undergrad school does not sound like an "affirmative
action" student.
His mother worked at least 2 jobs most of his life and concentrated on
his education.

Harry must be profiling when he assumes there was that much public
assistance. Maybe he is just prejudiced against poor black people.


It's been documented. If you are that interested, it is easy enough to
find. Here's an interesting quote from Carson himself:

Carson, in his book, tells how his grades improved tremendously when a
government program provided him with free eyeglasses because he could
barely see. Not only that, in “Gifted Hands” we read this nugget: “By
the time I reached ninth grade, mother had made such strides that she
received nothing but food stamps. She couldn’t have provided for us and
kept up the house without that subsidy.”


Whereas Krause went from one pitiful failure to another, Bankruptcy
foreclosure, federal tax liens, state tax liens, ****ed through a
substantial inheritance, sponges off his landlady.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 03/08/2014 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.

There is a hand up, hand outs and entitlements, only a hand up is good
as the rest generates a belligerence in dependency.


--
Socialist-statism corruption is a great idea so long as the credit is
good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those
that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing but
unemployment, debt and discontentment.

On 8/3/14 2:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


Carson was helped by government every step of his way, and now he and
his supporters want to deny that help to others.

On 8/3/2014 2:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/3/14 2:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.


Carson was helped by government every step of his way, and now he and
his supporters want to deny that help to others.


Horse****. Where and when has Carson and his supporters said they want
to deny welfare, food stamps or educational aid to underprivileged
people? He's stood for just the opposite, citing his own experience as
an example. He is, like many, against continuous handouts for those
unwilling to help themselves.

This is just Harryspeak bull****.

On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:51:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Carson was helped by government every step of his way, and now he and
his supporters want to deny that help to others.

===

That is a totally simplistic and unnuanced characterization of the way
most people feel. Almost everyone I know, and most of them lean
toward being conservative, are perfectly willing to help people who
are willing to help themselves.

On 8/3/2014 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.

I wonder what the difference is between welfare now and welfare 50
years ago when Benny's mom was collecting?

Did his mom have subsidized internet, a subsidized smartphone,
subsidized housing, a fuel allowance subsidy , job training subsidy,
child care subsidy, subsidized prenatal care, subsidized formula,
free medical care, free dental care, free vision care, free
prescriptions. Did she drive a car with $3,500 worth of tires and wheels
on it, was little Benny wearing $150 Nikes, did she have gold
lining her teeth was she having babies to get more welfare.
There are welfare mothers getting more in benefits than my wife and I
get working 110 hrs a week.
It has become a lifestyle for way to many, and very understandable why.
There is no shame for living on it, it is enough money to live better
than most human beings on the planet.
Mikek

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On 8/3/2014 5:45 PM, amdx wrote:
On 8/3/2014 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 03 Aug 2014 13:02:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

was raised by a single mother...
was raised in public housing...
was fed with food stamps...
was supported with welfare...
was kept healthy with medicaid...
got his eyeglasses from a state agency...
benefited from affirmative action to enter college...
used federal loans and Pell grants in undergrad school...
benefited from affirmative action to enter medical school...
had his med school paid for with grant from USPHS...

...claims government assistance is ruining black American families

Dr. Ben Carson is a political hypocrite.

I guess the difference was he moved on and did not consider public
assistance a lifestyle.

Most of us have no problem with a safety net, we just don't want it to
be a hammock.

I wonder what the difference is between welfare now and welfare 50
years ago when Benny's mom was collecting?

Did his mom have subsidized internet, a subsidized smartphone,
subsidized housing, a fuel allowance subsidy , job training subsidy,
child care subsidy, subsidized prenatal care, subsidized formula,
free medical care, free dental care, free vision care, free
prescriptions. Did she drive a car with $3,500 worth of tires and wheels
on it, was little Benny wearing $150 Nikes, did she have gold
lining her teeth was she having babies to get more welfare.
There are welfare mothers getting more in benefits than my wife and I
get working 110 hrs a week.
It has become a lifestyle for way to many, and very understandable why.
There is no shame for living on it, it is enough money to live better
than most human beings on the planet.
Mikek

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protection is active.
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We don't work 110 hours but we do our share and we still don't have the
things the MS13 members are getting handed, walking over our southern
border... Pools, spas, wide screen tv's, cable, internet.... wow. I am
watching a 13 inch tv cause my (21") *widescreen* broke last fall

On 8/3/14 6:40 PM, KC wrote:



We don't work 110 hours but we do our share and we still don't have the
things the MS13 members are getting handed, walking over our southern
border... Pools, spas, wide screen tv's, cable, internet.... wow. I am
watching a 13 inch tv cause my (21") *widescreen* broke last fall


Obviously you are not working as hard as the MS13 gang members. Maybe
they'll hire you as a Full Patch Fluffer.