On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:46 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:58:34 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:49:19 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:38:25 -0700, jps wrote:

I'm waiting for a Conservative Senator's kid to be shot accidentally
so that congress might reconsider closing sales loopholes and
instituting a mental health database and policy with some teeth.

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Be careful what you ask for, that's my advice. It might turn out to
be an example of the cure being worse than the disease. The vast
majority of shootings occur in inner city ghettos and are drug
related. Those facts are indisputable whether we like it or not. Do
you really think that all of these drug selling gang members are going
to show up in a mental health database? More likely you or your
neighbor's wife, and the label will follow you around forever.

The vast majority are suicides, somewhere around 17 - 19,000 a year.

Murders are around 11,000 a year.

Actually murders over 16,000. Only 11000 via firearm.

So, 66%+ of murders are committed by gun. Very impressive.

Means guns are not the problem!

Means guns make it easier to commit murder.

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:46 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:58:34 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:49:19 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:38:25 -0700, jps wrote:

I'm waiting for a Conservative Senator's kid to be shot accidentally
so that congress might reconsider closing sales loopholes and
instituting a mental health database and policy with some teeth.

===

Be careful what you ask for, that's my advice. It might turn out to
be an example of the cure being worse than the disease. The vast
majority of shootings occur in inner city ghettos and are drug
related. Those facts are indisputable whether we like it or not. Do
you really think that all of these drug selling gang members are going
to show up in a mental health database? More likely you or your
neighbor's wife, and the label will follow you around forever.

The vast majority are suicides, somewhere around 17 - 19,000 a year.

Murders are around 11,000 a year.

Actually murders over 16,000. Only 11000 via firearm.

So, 66%+ of murders are committed by gun. Very impressive.

Means guns are not the problem!

Means guns make it easier to commit murder.

Means that people murder. Just easier with a firearm. Pretty telling
when 1/3 of the murders do not involve firearms. Mass murder in China
involves swords. Look how many Timothy McVay killed, no firearm. 9/11 was
a mass murder. Box cutter knives. Killed how many?

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:02:51 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:53:06 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:46 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

So, 66%+ of murders are committed by gun. Very impressive.

Means guns are not the problem!

Means guns make it easier to commit murder.

So you have proved murders are lazy, that does not stop them from
being murderers tho.
They will find a way if they really want to kill
The same is true of suicides. The Japanese seem to find a way in spite
of virtually no guns

No, I'm just saying that guns grease the skids to mayhem and murder.