On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:17:51 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:47 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:40:45 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:02:33 -0700, jps wrote:


The vast majority are suicides, somewhere around 17 - 19,000 a year.

Murders are around 11,000 a year.


So you think if there were no guns, there would be no suicides?

Just look at Japan, one of your ideal countries. No guns and a much
higher suicide rate than the US.

The more you drill down on the numbers, the worse your case gets.

I have pointed out Australia many times. They got rid of most of their
guns and it had very little effect of on the slope of their murder
rate.

Well, we certainly did shift real quick there, eh? Went from 31,000
gun deaths a year coming out of my ass to, wouldn't it happen anyway?

And you're dead wrong about Australia, they've virtually eliminated
mass shootings from their society.

My point is, if guns make a country safer, we should be the safest
****ing country on the planet. They don't and we're not.

Most of our mass shootings are in gun controlled cities and involve the
Drug War. Are you only concerned about mass shootings by nut cases?

JP only cares about the shootings that make the news. It is not news
when black people shoot each other so he doesn't care.

If someone said "guns don't kill people, blacks and hispanics with
guns kill people" they would be called racist ... but it would still
be statistically true. If you take them out of the totals we cut the
murder rate (per 100,000) in half.

It's only racist if I say it. It's disregarded if someone else says it, 'cause the truth hurts.

On 7/11/14, 2:11 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:

It's only racist if I say it. It's disregarded if someone else says it, 'cause the truth hurts.


snerk You've got "smug, self-satisfied, racist asshole" down pat,
Herring.


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last year for no reason.

On 7/11/2014 2:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:11:17 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:17:51 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:47 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:40:45 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:02:33 -0700, jps wrote:


The vast majority are suicides, somewhere around 17 - 19,000 a year.

Murders are around 11,000 a year.


So you think if there were no guns, there would be no suicides?

Just look at Japan, one of your ideal countries. No guns and a much
higher suicide rate than the US.

The more you drill down on the numbers, the worse your case gets.

I have pointed out Australia many times. They got rid of most of their
guns and it had very little effect of on the slope of their murder
rate.

Well, we certainly did shift real quick there, eh? Went from 31,000
gun deaths a year coming out of my ass to, wouldn't it happen anyway?

And you're dead wrong about Australia, they've virtually eliminated
mass shootings from their society.

My point is, if guns make a country safer, we should be the safest
****ing country on the planet. They don't and we're not.

Most of our mass shootings are in gun controlled cities and involve the
Drug War. Are you only concerned about mass shootings by nut cases?

JP only cares about the shootings that make the news. It is not news
when black people shoot each other so he doesn't care.

If someone said "guns don't kill people, blacks and hispanics with
guns kill people" they would be called racist ... but it would still
be statistically true. If you take them out of the totals we cut the
murder rate (per 100,000) in half.

It's only racist if I say it. It's disregarded if someone else says it, 'cause the truth hurts.

I find it interesting that there is a black guy on CNN as we speak
saying that the surge of violence in New York this summer is because
they stopped "stop and frisk" and that although black people were
affected by that policy, they are affected more by this surge of
violent crime, since they are disproportionalely represented as
victims.


I saw a black politician from NY saying the same thing yesterday... I
did not recognize his name so I don't remember it...

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:43:02 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 14:11:17 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:17:51 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:04:47 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 00:40:45 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:02:33 -0700, jps wrote:


The vast majority are suicides, somewhere around 17 - 19,000 a year.

Murders are around 11,000 a year.


So you think if there were no guns, there would be no suicides?

Just look at Japan, one of your ideal countries. No guns and a much
higher suicide rate than the US.

The more you drill down on the numbers, the worse your case gets.

I have pointed out Australia many times. They got rid of most of their
guns and it had very little effect of on the slope of their murder
rate.

Well, we certainly did shift real quick there, eh? Went from 31,000
gun deaths a year coming out of my ass to, wouldn't it happen anyway?

And you're dead wrong about Australia, they've virtually eliminated
mass shootings from their society.

My point is, if guns make a country safer, we should be the safest
****ing country on the planet. They don't and we're not.

Most of our mass shootings are in gun controlled cities and involve the
Drug War. Are you only concerned about mass shootings by nut cases?

JP only cares about the shootings that make the news. It is not news
when black people shoot each other so he doesn't care.

If someone said "guns don't kill people, blacks and hispanics with
guns kill people" they would be called racist ... but it would still
be statistically true. If you take them out of the totals we cut the
murder rate (per 100,000) in half.

It's only racist if I say it. It's disregarded if someone else says it, 'cause the truth hurts.

I find it interesting that there is a black guy on CNN as we speak
saying that the surge of violence in New York this summer is because
they stopped "stop and frisk" and that although black people were
affected by that policy, they are affected more by this surge of
violent crime, since they are disproportionalely represented as
victims.

If it's blacks it's a 'so what' from jps and Krause. To mention it is racist.