Well Ray....
 

On 7/14/14, 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:23:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 7/14/14, 11:03 AM, wrote:

I know you don't care about that because they are just brown people.

Iraqis aren't "brown" people.

What are they?

Harry probably uses some pejorative term involving "sand" or "camel".
Otherwise how can he dehumanize them the way he does?
He does not think it is a war when we killed 20,000 or more civilians
from the air over the 10 years of the "no fly zone" offensive.


I find the speculations of you conservatards funny. I don't use racial
or country of origin pejoratives.
--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Well Ray....
 

On 7/14/14, 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:34:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 7/14/14, 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:23:44 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On 7/14/14, 11:03 AM, wrote:

I know you don't care about that because they are just brown people.

Iraqis aren't "brown" people.

What are they?

Harry probably uses some pejorative term involving "sand" or "camel".
Otherwise how can he dehumanize them the way he does?
He does not think it is a war when we killed 20,000 or more civilians
from the air over the 10 years of the "no fly zone" offensive.


I find the speculations of you conservatards funny. I don't use racial
or country of origin pejoratives.

Yet you celebrate your hero from Little Rock blowing the hell out of
them.



You really have problems with abstract thinking. I think Clinton was
smarter than Bush because he didn't invade Iraq. How is that a celebration?


--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Well Ray....
 

On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

Well Ray....
 

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA. Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

Well Ray....
 

On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA. Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.

--
Republicans . . . the anti-immigrant, anti-contraception, anti-student,
anti-middle class, pro-impeachment party that shut down the government
last year for no reason.

Well Ray....
 

On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Well Ray....
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.

--
Posted from my iPhone

Well Ray....
 

On 7/15/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.


The Gulf War ended in a cease fire. Saddam was allowed to stay in power
by agreeing to comply with terms and conditions outlined in UN
Resolution 687.

Understand so far?

Well Ray....
 

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 7:26 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/15/2014 6:12 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 7/15/14, 2:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 23:27:53 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Monday, July 14, 2014 4:09:51 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:14:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 7/14/14, 12:58 PM, wrote:



Would you have been happier if I just said 3d world people?







What do you mean by "Third World"? Less developed, non-aligned? What?

Not that such terms matter to me any more than skin color. Why are
you

so hung up on these mostly passe descriptors?



You've certainly taken this far afield. :)



Far afield? Farther than you moving from Louisiana to Iraq?



The "brown people" reference was an homage to George Carlin but I

assume that simply went over your head.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDw-zFFhFgc&feature=kp



I simply meant that your hero took weapons designed to attack the

Soviets and turned them loose on defenseless civilians all over the 3d

world. What a ****ing hero.

Even a lefty Clinton lover like Bill Maher was disgusted enough to

lose his job over comments about it.

LOL! You left him speechless. :-)

I guess FDR was wrong about war with Japan. They only attacked us
from the
air and sea. Did not invade us. So did not make war upon the USA.
Harry,
even sophistry won't save you ass on this one.

By that logic, we were never at war with Japan at all. We never
invaded Japan and they never invaded us.
In fact WWII didn't even start for us until 1945 when we invaded
Germany.
We know that is stupid and we were at war with Iraq from 1991 until
... (watch this space, it doesn't seem to be over yet)
We just had a cease fire for a couple of years but we are back in it
again.



This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.

My point was that Clinton wasn't dumb and avoided invading Iraq and
staying there, and that Bush was dumb because he invaded Iraq and stayed
there, and all you righties have are neverending "justifications" for
Bush's invasion of Iraq. That Clinton authorized the bombing of Iraq and
other measures is not relevant...he was smart enough to not invade Iraq.

Crikey.



Amazingly you can justify anything also.

Was GHWB justified in rallying a coalition and then leading the invasion
of Iraq in the Gulf War?

Yes.


The Gulf War ended in a cease fire. Saddam was allowed to stay in power
by agreeing to comply with terms and conditions outlined in UN Resolution 687.

Understand so far?

And once again you are trying to rationalize away Dubya's stupidity.
--
Posted from my iPhone

Well Ray....
 

On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:12:12 AM UTC-7, F. O. A. D. wrote:


This has to be the dumbest right-wing thread ever.



Actually, this thread was about Ray Nagin, the mayor of N.O. who fell from grace and was sentenced to 10 years in prison for his wrong doing. That is until you kept poking something about Cheaney, and Bush.

Harry, by your massive contributions, you really helped make this "dumbest right-wing thread" what it is.