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Wayne.B July 4th 14 06:17 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
For those of you that like to keep up with the official navigation
rules, and all boat operators should, there is a new governmental
document which describes the changes and the rationale behind them. It
also offers some interesting insights into the complexities of federal
rule making. The new rules are effective on August 1, 2014. Do not
assume that the rule changes do not apply to you because they are
fairly broad in scope.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-07-02/pdf/2014-14413.pdf

True North[_2_] July 4th 14 08:31 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
I wouldn't complain if the Canadian gov't made us carry a navigation rulebook, especially due to my home waters being both a major shipping port and home to the East Coast Navy.

Wayne.B July 4th 14 09:49 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:17:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

For those of you that like to keep up with the official navigation
rules, and all boat operators should, there is a new governmental
document which describes the changes and the rationale behind them. It
also offers some interesting insights into the complexities of federal
rule making. The new rules are effective on August 1, 2014. Do not
assume that the rule changes do not apply to you because they are
fairly broad in scope.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-07-02/pdf/2014-14413.pdf


It is a little easier to read here

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...vigation-rules

I still have not figured out what the Reader's Digest version is.
I did find the proposal to require a ($23) regulation book on every
boat over 16 feet a joke. I am glad the CG was against it.

I suppose I will read this and figure out what it really means some
day but certainly not on Independence Day. Until then,

"come and get me copper"!


===

Among other things it appears that we are no longer required to carry
a bell. Frankly it has seemed like an anachronism for a long time
but has finally been made official. We've been boarded and inspected
three times and I don't believe USCG has ever asked about a bell
although it is hiding in plain sight up on the flybridge.

[email protected] July 4th 14 10:06 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On Friday, July 4, 2014 3:31:41 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
I wouldn't complain if the Canadian gov't made us carry a navigation rulebook, especially due to my home waters being both a major shipping port and home to the East Coast Navy.


Those guys already know the rules. Would carrying one make you a better boater?

True North[_2_] July 4th 14 10:31 PM

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I'm not worried about me.......
It's the know it alls' and the weekend yahoos that need all the guidance they can get.

Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.[_2_] July 4th 14 10:36 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On Fri, 04 Jul 2014 13:17:29 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

For those of you that like to keep up with the official navigation
rules, and all boat operators should, there is a new governmental
document which describes the changes and the rationale behind them. It
also offers some interesting insights into the complexities of federal
rule making. The new rules are effective on August 1, 2014. Do not
assume that the rule changes do not apply to you because they are
fairly broad in scope.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2014-07-02/pdf/2014-14413.pdf



Thanks for the update. I like to keep a current copy aboard
even if it's a pdf file.

Did you note how there is STILL confusion as to whether a vessel
20 meters in length when anchored needs the ball shape as well
as one all-around anchor light.

The rule for vessels larger than that specifies a light forward
and higher *or a shape* and a light lower and aft.

The rule for the 20 meter anchored vessel specifies an all-
around light displayed where it may best be seen but says
nothing about the shape.

--
Sir Gregory



[email protected] July 5th 14 12:23 AM

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On Friday, July 4, 2014 5:31:56 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
I'm not worried about me.......

It's the know it alls' and the weekend yahoos that need all the guidance they can get.



Donnie cant even back up a trailered Boat, and he's worried about the " yahoos ". Donnie IS one. I'd worry if I had to use the same ramp as that useless Janitor.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 5th 14 12:40 AM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/4/2014 4:31 PM, True North wrote:
I'm not worried about me.......
It's the know it alls' and the weekend yahoos that need all the guidance they can get.

How about the once in a blue moon yahoos, like you?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

[email protected] July 5th 14 04:11 AM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On Friday, July 4, 2014 5:31:56 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
I'm not worried about me.......

It's the know it alls' and the weekend yahoos that need all the guidance they can get.


Having to buy a book won't change anything. Can you back your boat yet?

True North[_2_] July 5th 14 11:56 AM

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I appreciate the concern over my trailer hauling talents and am happy to announce that I backed the boat in on Wednesday after our first outing this year.
Legs still aren't back up to full strength so I didn't want to to try and manhandle the rig like I normally do.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 5th 14 03:34 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/4/2014 10:11 PM, wrote:
On Friday, July 4, 2014 5:31:56 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
I'm not worried about me.......

It's the know it alls' and the weekend yahoos that need all the guidance they can get.


Having to buy a book won't change anything. Can you back your boat yet?

Apparently he did a successful backup yesterday for his season opener.
Let's see if he does as well for his end of season launch today. ;-)

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

True North[_2_] July 5th 14 03:47 PM

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Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast as we speak?

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 5th 14 03:54 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/2014 9:47 AM, True North wrote:
Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast as we speak?

Hasn't it been downgraded to a tropical depression yet?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

F*O*A*D July 5th 14 03:56 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/14, 10:47 AM, True North wrote:
Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast as we speak?


Let me guess, since I have most of the right-wing assholes here
blocked...one or more of them made a snide comment...

--
Ted Cruz & Herman Cain in 2016...
Because 'mericans deserve crazy.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d July 5th 14 03:58 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/2014 9:47 AM, True North wrote:
Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast as we speak?

Winds from the SW at 26. Lashing? Really?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

True North[_2_] July 5th 14 05:51 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
StinkyJim just can't help himself.
It's what he does best.

F*O*A*D July 5th 14 06:30 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/14, 12:51 PM, True North wrote:
StinkyJim just can't help himself.
It's what he does best.


Ahh, it was FlaJim. He doesn't actually have a real boat...he refers to
his motorized interstate highway camper as a boat. It would be fun
watching him trying to back that monstrosity down a narrow alleyway.
No sense even reading his pigeon**** droppings here.

--
Ted Cruz & Herman Cain in 2016...
Because 'mericans deserve crazy.

KC July 5th 14 10:14 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/2014 10:54 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/5/2014 9:47 AM, True North wrote:
Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch
into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast
as we speak?

Hasn't it been downgraded to a tropical depression yet?


My God, the guy bought a tin can with a motor and now he is talking all
nautical and stuff... "teeth of the storm".. Whew, he must be quite a
man.. I hear he backed his trailer too... good, about time he stopped
making his poor wife manhandle the thing for him... :)

KC July 5th 14 10:16 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
On 7/5/2014 10:58 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 7/5/2014 9:47 AM, True North wrote:
Duh!
Y'all sure do talk silly down in Floriduh. Why would I want to launch
into the teeth of Tropical Storm Arthur, which is lashing this coast
as we speak?

Winds from the SW at 26. Lashing? Really?


"Lashing?... Teeth of the storm???".. Guy buys a tin dinghy and acts
like his wife replaced his mirror with a picture of John Wayne or
something... :)

True North[_2_] July 5th 14 10:21 PM

Changes to the Inland Navigation Rules
 
How's that job search going, MinnieMan?
#2 son and I went splits on a quality Oster dog clipper last month.
I'd gladly give you a proper man's haircut if you think it would make you more presentable in any job interview.


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