Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired h.p. target?

On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:
Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired h.p. target?



25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull
complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph
with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some
of you power boat guys can guess for me...

Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...
That was the change I made was softening the chines.

http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html

Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar
with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how
this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??

Thanks...

On 6/30/14, 4:27 PM, KC wrote:
On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:
Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about
building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired
h.p. target?



25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull
complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph
with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some
of you power boat guys can guess for me...

Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...
That was the change I made was softening the chines.

http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html

Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar
with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how
this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??

Thanks...

I had heavier runabouts when I was a young teenager with 18 hp motors,
and I'd get between 25 and 30 mph out of them. With a nearly flat bottom
and less weight, you should do better with a decent 25 hp outboard.
You're going to pound some at those speeds in anything more than a
ripple, and you might want to mount your battery and fuel tanks forward
of center.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

On 6/30/2014 4:27 PM, KC wrote:
On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:
Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about
building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired
h.p. target?



25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull
complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph
with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some
of you power boat guys can guess for me...

Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...
That was the change I made was softening the chines.

http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html

Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar
with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how
this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??

Thanks...


These pictures probably won't be of much help but perhaps you can find
more info on this Sailfish hull design.

This is one we had a few years back. It was the Sailfish version of the
traditional Whaler hull design. I've had Whalers also ... the original
13' version and a larger, more current model. This Sailfish put the
Whalers to shame in terms of stability and ride. I am not a "little"
guy by any stretch of the imagination yet I could stand on one side of
the bow and haul up a lobster trap with very little movement or
tilting of the boat. It was powered with a 70 hp Evinrude.

My wife liked it so much she sorta took it over as "her" boat.
Pictures are of her using it off Scituate Harbor in MA.

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish2a-1.jpg

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish3a.jpg

On Monday, June 30, 2014 5:45:47 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/30/2014 4:27 PM, KC wrote:

On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:

Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about

building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired

h.p. target?







25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull

complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph

with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some

of you power boat guys can guess for me...



Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...

That was the change I made was softening the chines.



http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html



Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar

with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how

this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??



Thanks...





These pictures probably won't be of much help but perhaps you can find

more info on this Sailfish hull design.



This is one we had a few years back. It was the Sailfish version of the

traditional Whaler hull design. I've had Whalers also ... the original

13' version and a larger, more current model. This Sailfish put the

Whalers to shame in terms of stability and ride. I am not a "little"

guy by any stretch of the imagination yet I could stand on one side of

the bow and haul up a lobster trap with very little movement or

tilting of the boat. It was powered with a 70 hp Evinrude.



My wife liked it so much she sorta took it over as "her" boat.

Pictures are of her using it off Scituate Harbor in MA.



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish2a-1.jpg



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish3a.jpg

Wow, I think 7 strakes is plenty for S+T The Sailfish sells "variable deadrise hull" which would take a different type of construction to be viable.. but I am looking for a lot of characteristics of that hull and I think I have them...

On Monday, June 30, 2014 5:45:47 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/30/2014 4:27 PM, KC wrote:

On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:

Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about

building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired

h.p. target?







25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull

complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph

with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some

of you power boat guys can guess for me...



Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...

That was the change I made was softening the chines.



http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html



Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar

with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how

this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??



Thanks...





These pictures probably won't be of much help but perhaps you can find

more info on this Sailfish hull design.



This is one we had a few years back. It was the Sailfish version of the

traditional Whaler hull design. I've had Whalers also ... the original

13' version and a larger, more current model. This Sailfish put the

Whalers to shame in terms of stability and ride. I am not a "little"

guy by any stretch of the imagination yet I could stand on one side of

the bow and haul up a lobster trap with very little movement or

tilting of the boat. It was powered with a 70 hp Evinrude.



My wife liked it so much she sorta took it over as "her" boat.

Pictures are of her using it off Scituate Harbor in MA.



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish2a-1.jpg



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish3a.jpg


Wow, 6500 pounds My boat will not handle anything like that although I wish it would.. How long it that one, 17 feet??

On 6/30/2014 5:58 PM, wrote:
On Monday, June 30, 2014 5:45:47 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/30/2014 4:27 PM, KC wrote:

On 6/30/2014 4:18 PM, Tim wrote:

Scott that sounds good. I'm glad you're getting inthused about

building again. So the hull you were describing- what is the desired

h.p. target?







25-50 horse... 10 degree deadrise and long flat bottom, the whole hull

complete will be around 300-350 pounds and should easily hit 18-22 mph

with a 25 and who really knows with a 50, maybe close to 30? Maybe some

of you power boat guys can guess for me...



Again, it's the second boat down on the page, with the "soft" chines...

That was the change I made was softening the chines.



http://rowdymouseracing.com/whaler.html



Still would like to hear input from anybody out there who is familiar

with smaller power boats, skiffs and whalers as to any thoughts on how

this hull might work, and if I am on track with my above estimates??



Thanks...





These pictures probably won't be of much help but perhaps you can find

more info on this Sailfish hull design.



This is one we had a few years back. It was the Sailfish version of the

traditional Whaler hull design. I've had Whalers also ... the original

13' version and a larger, more current model. This Sailfish put the

Whalers to shame in terms of stability and ride. I am not a "little"

guy by any stretch of the imagination yet I could stand on one side of

the bow and haul up a lobster trap with very little movement or

tilting of the boat. It was powered with a 70 hp Evinrude.



My wife liked it so much she sorta took it over as "her" boat.

Pictures are of her using it off Scituate Harbor in MA.



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish2a-1.jpg



http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/annasailfish3a.jpg


Wow, 6500 pounds My boat will not handle anything like that although I wish it would.. How long it that one, 17 feet??



It was a Sailfish CC 17. Just under 17 feet. I don't think they make
them anymore. Too bad because it was an exceptionally stable and good
riding boat and I always felt completely comfortable even in three foot
chop. It was the only boat that Mrs.E felt 100 percent comfortable
taking out by herself. It was a little underpowered with the 70 hp
outboard but with two people aboard it would plane easily and scoot along.

This is the boat that I took a freak, breaking 8' wave coming out of a
notorious area know as the "North River" inlet just south of Scituate
Harbor.

I was coming out of the North River trying to beat feet back to Scituate
Harbor due to some thunderstorms that had come up quickly.
The channel coming out of the North River can be tricky. It's very
shallow on either side with a very narrow, deeper section. The problem
is that waves coming in from Cape Cod Bay build quickly as they hit the
shallow water on each side of the narrow channel. With the "T" Storms
out over the water, the waves were growing and they were breaking on
each side of the channel, then running together as breakers in the
middle of the channel.

By the time I saw the monster, breaking wave coming, it was too late to
turn around, so I just set the throttle for what I thought would be a
good setting, grabbed the stainless bars on the console and held on.
The last thing I heard was the prop coming out of the water and I fell
forward, cracking my forehead on the console which knocked me out for a
short period of time. When I came to, crumpled up between the console
and the seat, I realized the wave had passed, the boat was still
afloat and I had a huge lump growing on the middle of my forehead.

Then the fog set in. Took me over an hour to find the channel marker
going back to the harbor. No GPS then. Just a compass and a radio.
The fog was so thick I could only see about two feet in front of the
boat's bow rail. On the radio I heard numerous boats hitting the rocks
that line shore in this area. The Scituate Harbormaster was at the
Harbor channel inlet running a siren and flashing lights as a beacon for
boats trying to find the inlet but I couldn't hear or see them.
Finally, as it was starting to get dark I almost ran into a channel
marker and got my bearings. Quickly learned the limitations of a
compass only and went shopping for a GPS.