in my community over rc planes and choppers. Yesterday there was an
amateur pilot with a quad flying over the track filming his kids. Here
is the letter I put up on FB to get feedback from my friends...

snip
Just wondering what you all think of Quads and Choppers with Cameras
over the track? Yesterday we encountered this for the first time and
although my rider decided it wasn't going to be an issue, I have to
wonder where it's going. I can see two or three amateur even first time
pilots hovering these things around the front parking lot jump, all
trying to get a shot, eventually there will be an issue... Personally, I
think they are great, I even have one but I think tracks should make
strict rules right here and now that these things are to remain and film
from spectator areas and not be within the confines of the track
itself... I don't mind you risking your own kids, but I don't know your
pilot and don't want my rider being part of your learning curve... Like
I said, *I have one of theses things so don't get all weird on me*, but
I am not pulling it out till I learn to fly it better, and make sure
it's not going to effect any other riders or families on the track...
Just my .02 wonder how you all feel. Please post a note, I may pass it
along to some track owners if I start to see similar attitudes among my
track friends... Just a note, I would have a provision for proven
professionals who fly, but it would be a sign in and sign a release kind
of thing.... Thanks for listening, RMR
/snip


Just wonder how you all feel about this stuff.... I think it's probably
illegal to fly over the track anyway, but I am not sure.. One thing I
know, it's gonna' cause a fuss because all the kids who have these
things are um, let's just say they come from families who are uses to
having their own way...

On 6/27/2014 10:35 AM, KC wrote:
in my community over rc planes and choppers. Yesterday there was an
amateur pilot with a quad flying over the track filming his kids. Here
is the letter I put up on FB to get feedback from my friends...

snip
Just wondering what you all think of Quads and Choppers with Cameras
over the track? Yesterday we encountered this for the first time and
although my rider decided it wasn't going to be an issue, I have to
wonder where it's going. I can see two or three amateur even first time
pilots hovering these things around the front parking lot jump, all
trying to get a shot, eventually there will be an issue... Personally, I
think they are great, I even have one but I think tracks should make
strict rules right here and now that these things are to remain and film
from spectator areas and not be within the confines of the track
itself... I don't mind you risking your own kids, but I don't know your
pilot and don't want my rider being part of your learning curve... Like
I said, *I have one of theses things so don't get all weird on me*, but
I am not pulling it out till I learn to fly it better, and make sure
it's not going to effect any other riders or families on the track...
Just my .02 wonder how you all feel. Please post a note, I may pass it
along to some track owners if I start to see similar attitudes among my
track friends... Just a note, I would have a provision for proven
professionals who fly, but it would be a sign in and sign a release kind
of thing.... Thanks for listening, RMR
/snip


Just wonder how you all feel about this stuff.... I think it's probably
illegal to fly over the track anyway, but I am not sure.. One thing I
know, it's gonna' cause a fuss because all the kids who have these
things are um, let's just say they come from families who are uses to
having their own way...

I'm ambivalent. ;-)

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

KC wrote:
in my community over rc planes and choppers. Yesterday there was an
amateur pilot with a quad flying over the track filming his kids. Here
is the letter I put up on FB to get feedback from my friends...

snip
Just wondering what you all think of Quads and Choppers with Cameras
over the track? Yesterday we encountered this for the first time and
although my rider decided it wasn't going to be an issue, I have to
wonder where it's going. I can see two or three amateur even first
time pilots hovering these things around the front parking lot jump,
all trying to get a shot, eventually there will be an issue...
Personally, I think they are great, I even have one but I think tracks
should make strict rules right here and now that these things are to
remain and film from spectator areas and not be within the confines of
the track itself... I don't mind you risking your own kids, but I
don't know your pilot and don't want my rider being part of your
learning curve... Like I said, *I have one of theses things so don't
get all weird on me*, but I am not pulling it out till I learn to fly
it better, and make sure it's not going to effect any other riders or
families on the track... Just my .02 wonder how you all feel. Please
post a note, I may pass it along to some track owners if I start to
see similar attitudes among my track friends... Just a note, I would
have a provision for proven professionals who fly, but it would be a
sign in and sign a release kind of thing.... Thanks for listening, RMR
/snip


Just wonder how you all feel about this stuff.... I think it's
probably illegal to fly over the track anyway, but I am not sure.. One
thing I know, it's gonna' cause a fuss because all the kids who have
these things are um, let's just say they come from families who are
uses to having their own way...
Regulation is sparse unless they fly over 1000 feet, IIRC, when the FAA
can jump in. I doubt any current laws prevent their use over your
track. There are a lot of governmental bodies reviewing the regulation
of these drones but I haven't read about any significant restrictions.

The type I have seen are relativity harmless to spectators. Unless
someone is hit in the eye they can't inflict any serious injuries.

On 6/27/2014 8:58 PM, Earl wrote:
KC wrote:
in my community over rc planes and choppers. Yesterday there was an
amateur pilot with a quad flying over the track filming his kids. Here
is the letter I put up on FB to get feedback from my friends...

snip
Just wondering what you all think of Quads and Choppers with Cameras
over the track? Yesterday we encountered this for the first time and
although my rider decided it wasn't going to be an issue, I have to
wonder where it's going. I can see two or three amateur even first
time pilots hovering these things around the front parking lot jump,
all trying to get a shot, eventually there will be an issue...
Personally, I think they are great, I even have one but I think tracks
should make strict rules right here and now that these things are to
remain and film from spectator areas and not be within the confines of
the track itself... I don't mind you risking your own kids, but I
don't know your pilot and don't want my rider being part of your
learning curve... Like I said, *I have one of theses things so don't
get all weird on me*, but I am not pulling it out till I learn to fly
it better, and make sure it's not going to effect any other riders or
families on the track... Just my .02 wonder how you all feel. Please
post a note, I may pass it along to some track owners if I start to
see similar attitudes among my track friends... Just a note, I would
have a provision for proven professionals who fly, but it would be a
sign in and sign a release kind of thing.... Thanks for listening, RMR
/snip


Just wonder how you all feel about this stuff.... I think it's
probably illegal to fly over the track anyway, but I am not sure.. One
thing I know, it's gonna' cause a fuss because all the kids who have
these things are um, let's just say they come from families who are
uses to having their own way...
Regulation is sparse unless they fly over 1000 feet, IIRC, when the FAA
can jump in. I doubt any current laws prevent their use over your
track. There are a lot of governmental bodies reviewing the regulation
of these drones but I haven't read about any significant restrictions.

The type I have seen are relativity harmless to spectators. Unless
someone is hit in the eye they can't inflict any serious injuries.

The one flying yesterday would not be harmless to spectators, or their
property, remember we are camped and packed tight as sardines in these
areas. The one flying the other day could kill my rider if she hit it
coming off a big jump because it caught a gust of wind... 4 1/2 pounds
of camera, kevlar, and aluminum hitting you in the face at 60 mph.. Not
harmless in any scenario... That is why even the pros fly them aside the
track over access roads and never in the path of the rider. Pro MX
doesn't even use them, they use cable cams or hand held... Ever wonder
why network sports aren't really using them, too much liability, too
many variables....

Well, you could always go over to the operator and threaten to kill him if he harms one of your family.
After all, that's what you threatened to do to me when I was talking about towing 500 lbs more than my previous SUV was rated for.......and I don't come within 1000 miles of your hood.

On 6/28/2014 11:09 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:54:27 -0400, KC wrote:

The one flying yesterday would not be harmless to spectators, or their
property, remember we are camped and packed tight as sardines in these
areas. The one flying the other day could kill my rider if she hit it
coming off a big jump because it caught a gust of wind... 4 1/2 pounds
of camera, kevlar, and aluminum hitting you in the face at 60 mph.. Not
harmless in any scenario... That is why even the pros fly them aside the
track over access roads and never in the path of the rider. Pro MX
doesn't even use them, they use cable cams or hand held... Ever wonder
why network sports aren't really using them, too much liability, too
many variables....

Drones below 500' are the wild west these days but the heavy thumb of
government is coming rapidly to only make it available to those who
can pay to play.
Expect a very strict licensing scheme to arise that blocks out anyone
who can't pay a million bucks to a lawyer.who spreads that money out
in bribes (er...campaign contributions)


Not sure I want that much restriction but it should be illegal to fly
them anywhere near folks who are not directly involved in flying like
race tracks, neighborhoods, roads, parking lots, fair grounds, etc...
There is a field just about 500 yards down the road where they fly all
the time, that's all they do there, that's where these things belong.

On 6/29/14, 12:13 AM, KC wrote:
On 6/28/2014 11:09 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:54:27 -0400, KC wrote:

The one flying yesterday would not be harmless to spectators, or their
property, remember we are camped and packed tight as sardines in these
areas. The one flying the other day could kill my rider if she hit it
coming off a big jump because it caught a gust of wind... 4 1/2 pounds
of camera, kevlar, and aluminum hitting you in the face at 60 mph.. Not
harmless in any scenario... That is why even the pros fly them aside the
track over access roads and never in the path of the rider. Pro MX
doesn't even use them, they use cable cams or hand held... Ever wonder
why network sports aren't really using them, too much liability, too
many variables....

Drones below 500' are the wild west these days but the heavy thumb of
government is coming rapidly to only make it available to those who
can pay to play.
Expect a very strict licensing scheme to arise that blocks out anyone
who can't pay a million bucks to a lawyer.who spreads that money out
in bribes (er...campaign contributions)


Not sure I want that much restriction but it should be illegal to fly
them anywhere near folks who are not directly involved in flying like
race tracks, neighborhoods, roads, parking lots, fair grounds, etc...
There is a field just about 500 yards down the road where they fly all
the time, that's all they do there, that's where these things belong.


Right, because parents who send their kidlets out to race motorcycles
are concerned about the safety and welfare of their progeny.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:58:11 -0400, Earl wrote:

KC wrote:
in my community over rc planes and choppers. Yesterday there was an
amateur pilot with a quad flying over the track filming his kids. Here
is the letter I put up on FB to get feedback from my friends...

snip
Just wondering what you all think of Quads and Choppers with Cameras
over the track? Yesterday we encountered this for the first time and
although my rider decided it wasn't going to be an issue, I have to
wonder where it's going. I can see two or three amateur even first
time pilots hovering these things around the front parking lot jump,
all trying to get a shot, eventually there will be an issue...
Personally, I think they are great, I even have one but I think tracks
should make strict rules right here and now that these things are to
remain and film from spectator areas and not be within the confines of
the track itself... I don't mind you risking your own kids, but I
don't know your pilot and don't want my rider being part of your
learning curve... Like I said, *I have one of theses things so don't
get all weird on me*, but I am not pulling it out till I learn to fly
it better, and make sure it's not going to effect any other riders or
families on the track... Just my .02 wonder how you all feel. Please
post a note, I may pass it along to some track owners if I start to
see similar attitudes among my track friends... Just a note, I would
have a provision for proven professionals who fly, but it would be a
sign in and sign a release kind of thing.... Thanks for listening, RMR
/snip


Just wonder how you all feel about this stuff.... I think it's
probably illegal to fly over the track anyway, but I am not sure.. One
thing I know, it's gonna' cause a fuss because all the kids who have
these things are um, let's just say they come from families who are
uses to having their own way...
Regulation is sparse unless they fly over 1000 feet, IIRC, when the FAA
can jump in. I doubt any current laws prevent their use over your
track. There are a lot of governmental bodies reviewing the regulation
of these drones but I haven't read about any significant restrictions.

The type I have seen are relativity harmless to spectators. Unless
someone is hit in the eye they can't inflict any serious injuries.

Four hundred feet is the max legal for model RC airplanes/drones. Also, the FAA is currently in the
process of basically outlawing first-person-view (FPV) flying because the pilot does not have sight
observation of his aircraft if wearing goggles designed for FPV. This last is not yet a regulation,
but is being fought over as we speak. In fact, the support of all you folks would be appreciated.

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