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Poquito Loco June 24th 14 05:01 PM

Maryland Logic
 
Two Maryland farmers, Harry and Bob, are sitting at their favorite bar, drinking beer.
Harry turns to Bob and says, "You know, I'm tired of going through life
without an education.

Tomorrow I think I'll go to the Community College and sign up for some classes."

Bob thinks it's a good idea, and the two leave. The next day, Jim goes down to
the college and meets Dean of Admissions, who signs him up
for four basic classes:.........Math, English, History, and Logic.

"Logic?" Harry says. "What's that?"

The dean says, "I'll give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"Yeah."

"Then logically speaking, because you own a weed eater, I think that you
would have a yard."

"That's true, I do have a yard."

"I'm not done," the dean says. "Because you have a
yard, I think logically that you would have a house."

"Yes, I do have a house."

"And because you have a house, I think that you might logically
have a family."

"Yes, I have a family."

"I'm not done yet. Because you have a family, then logically you
must have a wife. And because you have a wife, then logic
tells me you must be a heterosexual."

"I am a heterosexual. That's amazing, you were able to find out
all of that because I have a weed eater."

Excited to take the class now, Harry shakes the Dean's hand and leaves to
go meet Bob at the bar. He tells Bob about his classes, how
he is signed up for Math, English, History, and
Logic.

"Logic?" Bob says, "What's that?

Jim says, "Well. . . . I'll give ya an example. Do you have a
weed eater?"

"No."

"Then you're a racist queer..."

F*O*A*D June 24th 14 05:02 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/14, 12:01 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:


"Then you're a racist queer..."


Please. Find *another* hobby.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Poquito Loco June 24th 14 05:21 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:07:34 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:01:01 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

Two Maryland farmers, Harry and Bob, are sitting at their favorite bar, drinking beer.
Harry turns to Bob and says, "You know, I'm tired of going through life
without an education.

Tomorrow I think I'll go to the Community College and sign up for some classes."

Bob thinks it's a good idea, and the two leave. The next day, Jim goes down to
the college and meets Dean of Admissions, who signs him up
for four basic classes:.........Math, English, History, and Logic.

"Logic?" Harry says. "What's that?"

The dean says, "I'll give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"Yeah."

"Then logically speaking, because you own a weed eater, I think that you
would have a yard."

"That's true, I do have a yard."

"I'm not done," the dean says. "Because you have a
yard, I think logically that you would have a house."

"Yes, I do have a house."

"And because you have a house, I think that you might logically
have a family."

"Yes, I have a family."

"I'm not done yet. Because you have a family, then logically you
must have a wife. And because you have a wife, then logic
tells me you must be a heterosexual."

"I am a heterosexual. That's amazing, you were able to find out
all of that because I have a weed eater."

Excited to take the class now, Harry shakes the Dean's hand and leaves to
go meet Bob at the bar. He tells Bob about his classes, how
he is signed up for Math, English, History, and
Logic.

"Logic?" Bob says, "What's that?

Jim says, "Well. . . . I'll give ya an example. Do you have a
weed eater?"

"No."

"Then you're a racist queer..."



I have 2 weed eaters

I have a wife and an Ex with my other house.
This logic **** works!


LOL!

Tim June 24th 14 05:29 PM

Maryland Logic
 
I not only have a weedeater but also chainsaws and a tractor with a bush hog. Now where's the logic in that!?!

Poquito Loco June 24th 14 05:50 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:29:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

I not only have a weedeater but also chainsaws and a tractor with a bush hog. Now where's the logic in that!?!


Have you switched to Mormonism?

F*O*A*D June 24th 14 05:50 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/14, 12:29 PM, Tim wrote:
I not only have a weedeater but also chainsaws and a tractor with a bush hog. Now where's the logic in that!?!


How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

KC June 24th 14 06:06 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/2014 1:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:29:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

I not only have a weedeater but also chainsaws and a tractor with a bush hog. Now where's the logic in that!?!


You must be a farmer.
Keep your daughter away from those traveling salesmen. ;-)

OTOH if my great grandparents took that advice, I wouldn't be here

BOTH pairs too.


Traveling salesman get stuck on the side of the road and asks the farmer
if he had a place for him to stay the night. The farmer said "sure, but
you will have to sleep upstairs in the same room as my son".. Salesman
said, "Whoops, wrong joke"... :)

F*O*A*D June 24th 14 06:19 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/14, 1:13 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.



I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.




No, I don't go up trees. Ever. I do have a good ladder I can use, brace
properly, and cut off a tree limb I can reach. I don't have any problems
starting or running the chainsaw. I don't see where an electric chainsaw
would make me feel less nervous.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Poquito Loco June 24th 14 06:19 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.



I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.


I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!

Califbill June 24th 14 08:08 PM

Maryland Logic
 
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.



I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.


I have not used my gas saw in years. The electric works every time, and
very convenient.

True North[_2_] June 24th 14 08:37 PM

Maryland Logic
 
An electric is all I've used in the magazine dozen years.
Had it out yesterday to take down pine trees that had died on me last year

[email protected] June 24th 14 08:58 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:19:40 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400, wrote:



On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:




How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,


because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.






I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)




Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,


no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little


jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.






I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!


For serious work I like my Stihl. For little jobs the cordless demolition saw with an aggressive wood blade made for cutting limbs works great.

Earl[_93_] June 25th 14 01:27 AM

Maryland Logic
 
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.


Harry's a pussy, too? What a list!

Earl[_93_] June 25th 14 01:29 AM

Maryland Logic
 
True North wrote:
An electric is all I've used in the magazine dozen years.
Had it out yesterday to take down pine trees that had died on me last year


WTF is a "magazine dozen years"?


Earl[_93_] June 25th 14 01:31 AM

Maryland Logic
 
wrote:
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:19:40 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400,
wrote:



On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.
I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)
Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.



I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!

For serious work I like my Stihl. For little jobs the cordless demolition saw with an aggressive wood blade made for cutting limbs works great.

Skil has a blade called the "Ugly" for pruning. It's great with the
cordless recip saw.


Wayne.B June 25th 14 03:55 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:34:23 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:19:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/24/14, 1:13 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.




No, I don't go up trees. Ever. I do have a good ladder I can use, brace
properly, and cut off a tree limb I can reach. I don't have any problems
starting or running the chainsaw. I don't see where an electric chainsaw
would make me feel less nervous.



They are just a lot easier if you are just cutting a few limbs. No gas
problems. (mixing fresh, using it all or dumping it etc)


===

And a whole lot quieter.

F*O*A*D June 25th 14 11:07 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/14, 10:34 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:19:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/24/14, 1:13 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.




No, I don't go up trees. Ever. I do have a good ladder I can use, brace
properly, and cut off a tree limb I can reach. I don't have any problems
starting or running the chainsaw. I don't see where an electric chainsaw
would make me feel less nervous.



They are just a lot easier if you are just cutting a few limbs. No gas
problems. (mixing fresh, using it all or dumping it etc)


I keep about a quart of gas/oil mixed for my string trimmer, which I use
at least once a week. Same mix goes into the chain saw. Stays fresh
enough, or at least it's never given me a problem. When I am finished
with the chain saw, I empty the mix out back into the little container
and run the saw dry. I use the chain saw about once a month for cutting
limbs too big for the Sawz-all.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

F*O*A*D June 25th 14 11:08 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/14, 11:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:19:40 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.


I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!


Yup but when you are filling a 30 yd dumpster you need gas

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Hort%20dumpster%20full.jpg





There must be a way to turn that into a cash crop. :) Can you smoke it?

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 25th 14 11:59 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/24/2014 10:34 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:19:24 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/24/14, 1:13 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.




No, I don't go up trees. Ever. I do have a good ladder I can use, brace
properly, and cut off a tree limb I can reach. I don't have any problems
starting or running the chainsaw. I don't see where an electric chainsaw
would make me feel less nervous.



They are just a lot easier if you are just cutting a few limbs. No gas
problems. (mixing fresh, using it all or dumping it etc)

It's the moving parts that intimidates him.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

Tim June 25th 14 04:36 PM

Maryland Logic
 
Harry. I have 6 chainsaws I use. My smallest is a Stihl 0/17 with a 12" bar it's light and does a great job on limbs etc. a poulan with an 18" bar and that's the saw I use the most but odd enough it's also the saw I love to hate. Then a shendaiwa 345 w/12" . It's light and dependable but not very powerful. Then an Echo with a 20" heavy bar which is a good log saw. Now my sweetheart is the Makita (dolmar) i4000 equipped with a 24" roller bar . It s a great all around saw. I use it and the poulan "wood shark" the most. But I also have a man eating Stihl 051AV from the mid- 70's. It's got the 33" roller tip bar and I use it to slice up fallen oaks up to 5 ft. in diameter. I look at chainsaws like I do my firearms and credit cards. Use them if you need to, but give them respect.

F*O*A*D June 25th 14 04:41 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/14, 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry. I have 6 chainsaws I use. My smallest is a Stihl 0/17 with a 12" bar it's light and does a great job on limbs etc. a poulan with an 18" bar and that's the saw I use the most but odd enough it's also the saw I love to hate. Then a shendaiwa 345 w/12" . It's light and dependable but not very powerful. Then an Echo with a 20" heavy bar which is a good log saw. Now my sweetheart is the Makita (dolmar) i4000 equipped with a 24" roller bar . It s a great all around saw. I use it and the poulan "wood shark" the most. But I also have a man eating Stihl 051AV from the mid- 70's. It's got the 33" roller tip bar and I use it to slice up fallen oaks up to 5 ft. in diameter. I look at chainsaws like I do my firearms and credit cards. Use them if you need to, but give them respect.


I'm the same way with my one and only chainsaw...cautious and
respectful, and I really think about cuts before I make them.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Poquito Loco June 25th 14 04:45 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:04:17 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:19:40 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.


I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)

Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.


I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!


Yup but when you are filling a 30 yd dumpster you need gas

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Hort%20dumpster%20full.jpg




Why? My Makita does a great job up to 10" that I know of. I haven't hit anything bigger yet, but I
could probably do it in a couple whacks. It seems about as fast as the gas, and it's a hell of a lot
easier to start!

F*O*A*D June 25th 14 04:54 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:07:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/24/14, 10:34 PM,
wrote:

They are just a lot easier if you are just cutting a few limbs. No gas
problems. (mixing fresh, using it all or dumping it etc)


I keep about a quart of gas/oil mixed for my string trimmer, which I use
at least once a week. Same mix goes into the chain saw. Stays fresh
enough, or at least it's never given me a problem. When I am finished
with the chain saw, I empty the mix out back into the little container
and run the saw dry. I use the chain saw about once a month for cutting
limbs too big for the Sawz-all.


We have electric tools for all of that. I only break out the gas saw
or trimmer when I am getting serious about something like cutting the
weeds at the boat basin or cutting down big trees. Other than that the
electric chain saw and electric trimmer works fine.
My wife will use them ;-)


It's 100 feet or more from exterior house/garage electrical outlets to
many of the places where I need to trim a limb or cut up a fallen tree.
I have a 100' drop cord, but at those distances, I prefer gasoline power
for yard tools.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 25th 14 06:27 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/2014 11:41 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/25/14, 11:36 AM, Tim wrote:
Harry. I have 6 chainsaws I use. My smallest is a Stihl 0/17 with a
12" bar it's light and does a great job on limbs etc. a poulan with
an 18" bar and that's the saw I use the most but odd enough it's also
the saw I love to hate. Then a shendaiwa 345 w/12" . It's light and
dependable but not very powerful. Then an Echo with a 20" heavy bar
which is a good log saw. Now my sweetheart is the Makita (dolmar)
i4000 equipped with a 24" roller bar . It s a great all around saw. I
use it and the poulan "wood shark" the most. But I also have a man
eating Stihl 051AV from the mid- 70's. It's got the 33" roller tip bar
and I use it to slice up fallen oaks up to 5 ft. in diameter. I
look at chainsaws like I do my firearms and credit cards. Use them
if you need to, but give them respect.


I'm the same way with my one and only chainsaw...cautious and
respectful, and I really think about cuts before I make them.

I didn't think you were respectful of anything that wasn't liberal in
nature.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 25th 14 06:31 PM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/2014 11:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/25/14, 11:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 06:07:40 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/24/14, 10:34 PM,
wrote:

They are just a lot easier if you are just cutting a few limbs. No gas
problems. (mixing fresh, using it all or dumping it etc)


I keep about a quart of gas/oil mixed for my string trimmer, which I use
at least once a week. Same mix goes into the chain saw. Stays fresh
enough, or at least it's never given me a problem. When I am finished
with the chain saw, I empty the mix out back into the little container
and run the saw dry. I use the chain saw about once a month for cutting
limbs too big for the Sawz-all.


We have electric tools for all of that. I only break out the gas saw
or trimmer when I am getting serious about something like cutting the
weeds at the boat basin or cutting down big trees. Other than that the
electric chain saw and electric trimmer works fine.
My wife will use them ;-)


It's 100 feet or more from exterior house/garage electrical outlets to
many of the places where I need to trim a limb or cut up a fallen tree.
I have a 100' drop cord, but at those distances, I prefer gasoline power
for yard tools.

My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

F*O*A*D June 26th 14 12:08 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/14, 6:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.


If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


I'm sure there is a significant voltage drop with the heavier 100' cord
I have. I bought it to run an electric string trimmer, and I noticed it
wasn't as peppy when I plugged it into the long cord. That's when I
bought the two cycle trimmer.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

F*O*A*D June 26th 14 12:09 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/14, 6:54 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:54:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/25/14, 11:50 AM,
wrote:

We have electric tools for all of that. I only break out the gas saw
or trimmer when I am getting serious about something like cutting the
weeds at the boat basin or cutting down big trees. Other than that the
electric chain saw and electric trimmer works fine.
My wife will use them ;-)


It's 100 feet or more from exterior house/garage electrical outlets to
many of the places where I need to trim a limb or cut up a fallen tree.
I have a 100' drop cord, but at those distances, I prefer gasoline power
for yard tools.


You need more outlets ;-)



It would be nice, but very expensive to put power out there. Probably
cheaper to buy a portable Honda generator. Not probably...absolutely.



--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

KC June 26th 14 12:12 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/2014 6:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.


If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


Running appliances with improper cords can hurt the tool too...

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 26th 14 12:26 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/25/2014 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:45:04 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:04:17 -0400,
wrote:


Yup but when you are filling a 30 yd dumpster you need gas

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Hort%20dumpster%20full.jpg




Why? My Makita does a great job up to 10" that I know of. I haven't hit anything bigger yet, but I
could probably do it in a couple whacks. It seems about as fast as the gas, and it's a hell of a lot
easier to start!


The trunks of that tree were almost 2' across. I had to take 2 swings
at it with a 16" saw. The gas also goes faster.
I was dragging the small logs with the golf cart but I needed my truck
for the big ones.
I rigged a 3/8" steel cable over the end of the dumpster and dragged
the logs in with the truck.

Did you need to get a permit to take down that big tree?

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

True North[_2_] June 26th 14 12:37 AM

Maryland Logic
 
I have 2 of Costco's 12 ga 50 foot cords for outdoor use.
I use them for my electric chain saw and my electric snowthrower etc.

Earl[_93_] June 26th 14 01:09 AM

Maryland Logic
 
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:31:02 -0400, Earl wrote:

wrote:
On Tuesday, June 24, 2014 1:19:40 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:13:44 -0400,
wrote:



On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:50:55 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
How many chainsaws do you have? I have but one, and it's low mileage,
because it scares me to use it. I do use it, but man oh man...high anxiety.
I guess you don't go up a tree with it then ;-)
Maybe an electric is what you need. These days they are pretty good,
no gas to fool with and they start every time. I use mine for little
jobs and crank up the gas saw if I am getting serious.

I've got one of each, but since getting the electric, the gas one just sits. I do like that Makita!
For serious work I like my Stihl. For little jobs the cordless demolition saw with an aggressive wood blade made for cutting limbs works great.

Skil has a blade called the "Ugly" for pruning. It's great with the
cordless recip saw.

The electric chain saw I have goes on a pole and becomes a palm tree
trimmer. Or any other thing you want to cut about 15 feet up


I have one and it works well. Remington is the brand IIRC.


Earl[_93_] June 26th 14 01:13 AM

Maryland Logic
 
True North wrote:
I have 2 of Costco's 12 ga 50 foot cords for outdoor use.
I use them for my electric chain saw and my electric snowthrower etc.

Fantastic!


KC June 27th 14 03:41 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/26/2014 10:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:08:07 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/25/14, 6:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.

If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


I'm sure there is a significant voltage drop with the heavier 100' cord
I have. I bought it to run an electric string trimmer, and I noticed it
wasn't as peppy when I plugged it into the long cord. That's when I
bought the two cycle trimmer.


A contractor grade cord (12ga) will drop a tad over 5 volts 100 feet
out with a 13a load, what a good chain saw might draw.
That is less than the recommended max V/D.


In order to avoid zoning issues at the boat shop I ran everything off
two 100 foot, 12 gauge extension cords. They ran everything I threw at
them including my Table Saw and Radial Arm. I had them each plugged into
dedicated lines from the fuse box. Never noticed any problem with them
and any loss of power at the plug.

Wayne.B June 27th 14 04:02 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:41:20 -0400, KC wrote:

On 6/26/2014 10:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:08:07 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/25/14, 6:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.

If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


I'm sure there is a significant voltage drop with the heavier 100' cord
I have. I bought it to run an electric string trimmer, and I noticed it
wasn't as peppy when I plugged it into the long cord. That's when I
bought the two cycle trimmer.


A contractor grade cord (12ga) will drop a tad over 5 volts 100 feet
out with a 13a load, what a good chain saw might draw.
That is less than the recommended max V/D.


In order to avoid zoning issues at the boat shop I ran everything off
two 100 foot, 12 gauge extension cords. They ran everything I threw at
them including my Table Saw and Radial Arm. I had them each plugged into
dedicated lines from the fuse box. Never noticed any problem with them
and any loss of power at the plug.


===

I used to have a 250 ft 10 gauge extension cord that I built myself
from a roll of 12/3 romex cable. It was stored on a garden hose reel
for ease of deployment and to avoid kinking. It was very useful in
winter storage boatyards where the boat ended up being a long way from
an outlet box. I could run electric heaters and any power tool that I
wanted from it.

KC June 27th 14 04:24 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/26/2014 11:02 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:41:20 -0400, KC wrote:

On 6/26/2014 10:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:08:07 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/25/14, 6:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.

If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


I'm sure there is a significant voltage drop with the heavier 100' cord
I have. I bought it to run an electric string trimmer, and I noticed it
wasn't as peppy when I plugged it into the long cord. That's when I
bought the two cycle trimmer.

A contractor grade cord (12ga) will drop a tad over 5 volts 100 feet
out with a 13a load, what a good chain saw might draw.
That is less than the recommended max V/D.


In order to avoid zoning issues at the boat shop I ran everything off
two 100 foot, 12 gauge extension cords. They ran everything I threw at
them including my Table Saw and Radial Arm. I had them each plugged into
dedicated lines from the fuse box. Never noticed any problem with them
and any loss of power at the plug.


===

I used to have a 250 ft 10 gauge extension cord that I built myself
from a roll of 12/3 romex cable. It was stored on a garden hose reel
for ease of deployment and to avoid kinking. It was very useful in
winter storage boatyards where the boat ended up being a long way from
an outlet box. I could run electric heaters and any power tool that I
wanted from it.


Yeah, growing up my dad had two 10 guage 50 footers and they are still
here but at over 60 years old last time I went to use one, I got hit
because of old insulation so I kinda' hung 'em on the wall and moved on:)

Wayne.B June 27th 14 04:47 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:02:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

In order to avoid zoning issues at the boat shop I ran everything off
two 100 foot, 12 gauge extension cords. They ran everything I threw at
them including my Table Saw and Radial Arm. I had them each plugged into
dedicated lines from the fuse box. Never noticed any problem with them
and any loss of power at the plug.


===

I used to have a 250 ft 10 gauge extension cord that I built myself
from a roll of 12/3 romex cable. It was stored on a garden hose reel
for ease of deployment and to avoid kinking. It was very useful in
winter storage boatyards where the boat ended up being a long way from
an outlet box. I could run electric heaters and any power tool that I
wanted from it.


===

Correction: Make that 10/3 romex cable.

Wayne.B June 27th 14 05:22 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:03:11 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:47:01 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:02:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

In order to avoid zoning issues at the boat shop I ran everything off
two 100 foot, 12 gauge extension cords. They ran everything I threw at
them including my Table Saw and Radial Arm. I had them each plugged into
dedicated lines from the fuse box. Never noticed any problem with them
and any loss of power at the plug.

===

I used to have a 250 ft 10 gauge extension cord that I built myself
from a roll of 12/3 romex cable. It was stored on a garden hose reel
for ease of deployment and to avoid kinking. It was very useful in
winter storage boatyards where the boat ended up being a long way from
an outlet box. I could run electric heaters and any power tool that I
wanted from it.


===

Correction: Make that 10/3 romex cable.


You could have used 10/2-wg (the grounding wire is not required to be
insulated) but the problem is that Romex is not listed to go in a
plug.
10-3 SJxx cord is a better choice. (like SJOW or SJT). It is more
suitable because it is stranded wire.


===

You're right, I think it probably was 10/2-wg.

Code compliance with regard to the plug was not a major priority at
the time. :-)

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 27th 14 11:08 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/26/2014 10:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:08:07 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/25/14, 6:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 13:31:32 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:


My gawd you're right. It would be unthinkable to bend the rules and hook
two extension cords together.

If you are using those cheap 16 ga cords, you might not get enough out
the far end to run a chain saw


I'm sure there is a significant voltage drop with the heavier 100' cord
I have. I bought it to run an electric string trimmer, and I noticed it
wasn't as peppy when I plugged it into the long cord. That's when I
bought the two cycle trimmer.


A contractor grade cord (12ga) will drop a tad over 5 volts 100 feet
out with a 13a load, what a good chain saw might draw.
That is less than the recommended max V/D.

Here's an online calculator I thought you might want to play with. Your
stated drop is a little more than this calculator says.

http://www.nebulan.net/solar/voltagedrop.asp





--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 27th 14 11:12 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/26/2014 10:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:26:54 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/25/2014 6:53 PM,
wrote:

The trunks of that tree were almost 2' across. I had to take 2 swings
at it with a 16" saw. The gas also goes faster.
I was dragging the small logs with the golf cart but I needed my truck
for the big ones.
I rigged a 3/8" steel cable over the end of the dumpster and dragged
the logs in with the truck.

Did you need to get a permit to take down that big tree?


A Fucus is listed as an exotic. They want you to kill them.


I looked up fucus. It says it's seaweed. I'll bet you could eat it. ;-)

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

H*a*r*r*o*l*d June 27th 14 11:14 AM

Maryland Logic
 
On 6/26/2014 10:24 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 20:09:06 -0400, Earl wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:31:02 -0400, Earl wrote:


The electric chain saw I have goes on a pole and becomes a palm tree
trimmer. Or any other thing you want to cut about 15 feet up


I have one and it works well. Remington is the brand IIRC.

Yup


Palm branches are easily cut with a pole lopper/trimmer.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson


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