Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:
Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons


If you like crackpots...

Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever
it is she actually does.

Fun read, though. Thanks.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons





If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons





If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'


The sponsor of the site on which your bull**** article appeared,
worldtruth.tv, has "spent the last 32 years researching Theosophy,
Freemasonry, Kabbalah, Rosicrucianism, the Bavarian Illuminati and
Western Occultism," and promotes religious stuporstition. Why bother to
dispute the site's ignorance?





--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:03:15 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:



Very interesting article and well worth the read...







http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons











If you like crackpots...







Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever



it is she actually does.







Fun read, though. Thanks.







dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'





The sponsor of the site on which your bull**** article appeared,

worldtruth.tv, has "spent the last 32 years researching Theosophy,

Freemasonry, Kabbalah, Rosicrucianism, the Bavarian Illuminati and

Western Occultism," and promotes religious stuporstition. Why bother to

dispute the site's ignorance?



So, you have the proof that none of those murderers mentioned were on prescription mind drugs whet they killed people?

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 7:36 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, June 14, 2014 4:03:15 AM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:



Very interesting article and well worth the read...







http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons











If you like crackpots...







Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever



it is she actually does.







Fun read, though. Thanks.







dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'





The sponsor of the site on which your bull**** article appeared,

worldtruth.tv, has "spent the last 32 years researching Theosophy,

Freemasonry, Kabbalah, Rosicrucianism, the Bavarian Illuminati and

Western Occultism," and promotes religious stuporstition. Why bother to

dispute the site's ignorance?



So, you have the proof that none of those murderers mentioned were on prescription mind drugs whet they killed people?


There's no scientifically based causality presented in the article you
cited. If you are attempting to present a case based upon science, then
you ought to include science.

It is well known that certain emotion controlling or altering drugs may
have serious side effects on some patients under certain conditions. The
information isn't suppressed, as the article you cited claims. Seen any
TV commercials for Rx drugs in the last decade or so? At least half the
commercial is devoted to side effects, and problems associated with
sudden discontinuation of some prescriptions.

Perhaps people suffering from serious mental disorders should not take
drugs that might help and instead pray to Jesus, as they used to in the
Dark Ages?

I blame the Illuminati.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons

Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:26:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons





If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'

I hate to say this, but what did you expect. With Krause, as with most liberals, it's not the
accuracy of the article that matters, it's the author or network that matters.

Krause hasn't got the sense to dispute the article.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons

Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.


Your assumption that mental health professionals are unaware of how some
people react badly to psychotropics is another indicator of your general
ignorancw.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 8:42 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:26:32 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons





If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'

I hate to say this, but what did you expect. With Krause, as with most liberals, it's not the
accuracy of the article that matters, it's the author or network that matters.

Krause hasn't got the sense to dispute the article.



What accuracy, exactly? There's no scientific evidence presented in that
article. Is the article proving a connection between the murderous
behavior of the individuals mentioned and the drugs they might have
taken? No, it is not. All that is presented in that article is yet
another apologetic for the too easy availability of firearms.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons





If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'


There is no disputing it...

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 9:50 AM, KC wrote:
On 6/14/2014 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...



http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons






If you like crackpots...



Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever

it is she actually does.



Fun read, though. Thanks.



dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'


There is no disputing it...


If ever there was a case for force-feeding psychotropic drugs to an
insane individual, you are it.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Saturday, 14 June 2014 10:58:51 UTC-3, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 9:50 AM, KC wrote:

On 6/14/2014 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:



Very interesting article and well worth the read...







http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons













If you like crackpots...







Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever



it is she actually does.







Fun read, though. Thanks.







dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'





There is no disputing it...





If ever there was a case for force-feeding psychotropic drugs to an

insane individual, you are it.





I'm thinking he force feeds himself various recreational drugs on a more than occasional basis.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons

Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading
this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.


Your assumption that mental health professionals are unaware of how some
people react badly to psychotropics is another indicator of your general ignorancw.


What the hell. Most of those killers were probably fed ADD drugs via
schools. Do not even have to be prescribed by a shrink.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 14 June 2014 10:58:51 UTC-3, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 9:50 AM, KC wrote:

On 6/14/2014 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:



Very interesting article and well worth the read...







http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons













If you like crackpots...







Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever



it is she actually does.







Fun read, though. Thanks.







dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'





There is no disputing it...





If ever there was a case for force-feeding psychotropic drugs to an

insane individual, you are it.





I'm thinking he force feeds himself various recreational drugs on a more
than occasional basis.

There are lots of kids being force fed psychotropic drugs. All those ADD
students, that the schools get more money for because they have to take
Ritalin, etc.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 10:31 AM, True North wrote:
On Saturday, 14 June 2014 10:58:51 UTC-3, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 9:50 AM, KC wrote:

On 6/14/2014 2:26 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, June 13, 2014 2:51:38 PM UTC-7, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/13/14, 5:43 PM, Tim wrote:



Very interesting article and well worth the read...







http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons













If you like crackpots...







Ms. Laura Knight-Jadczyk should stick to counting photons, or whatever



it is she actually does.







Fun read, though. Thanks.







dispute the article Harry. I'm sure you can come up with 'something'





There is no disputing it...





If ever there was a case for force-feeding psychotropic drugs to an

insane individual, you are it.





I'm thinking he force feeds himself various recreational drugs on a more than occasional basis.

Didn't take you long to get your nose back between Harry's cheeks.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 9:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons


Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading
this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.


Your assumption that mental health professionals are unaware of how some
people react badly to psychotropics is another indicator of your general
ignorancw.



I think mental health professionals should start studying the impact of
the lack of physical human interaction caused by cell phones, texting,
emailing and social media networks.

Humans are social creatures and require the non-verbal body language
inputs gained by physical, personal communication. We've become a
society of zombies, relying on text messages to communicate, often being
totally misinterpreted.

Many people, especially young ones, don't know how to deal with
adversity or problems because they lack the personal and physical
interaction with others.

Einstein had it right:

http://firsttoknow.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Technology_Einstein.jpg

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 11:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 9:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons



Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading
this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.


Your assumption that mental health professionals are unaware of how some
people react badly to psychotropics is another indicator of your general
ignorancw.



I think mental health professionals should start studying the impact of
the lack of physical human interaction caused by cell phones, texting,
emailing and social media networks.

Humans are social creatures and require the non-verbal body language
inputs gained by physical, personal communication. We've become a
society of zombies, relying on text messages to communicate, often being
totally misinterpreted.

Many people, especially young ones, don't know how to deal with
adversity or problems because they lack the personal and physical
interaction with others.

Einstein had it right:

http://firsttoknow.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Technology_Einstein.jpg






There's a world of medical literature and research on the problems
created by isolation from society. Old causes and new causes, such as
those you mention.

It's common in literature, too, e.g., the works of Camus, Beckett,
Dostoyevsky, and in the works of Durkheim. Beckett's Waiting for Godot
is worth a read, if you are interested in what happens to people who are
so disconnected, they cannot do much of anything.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 11:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 11:32 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/14/2014 9:43 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 8:31 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Very interesting article and well worth the read...

http://www.sott.net/article/279716-N...t-isnt-weapons




Quite interesting. I doubt if many psychiatrists would like reading
this. It could a bunch of drug
pushers out of business.


Your assumption that mental health professionals are unaware of how some
people react badly to psychotropics is another indicator of your general
ignorancw.



I think mental health professionals should start studying the impact of
the lack of physical human interaction caused by cell phones, texting,
emailing and social media networks.

Humans are social creatures and require the non-verbal body language
inputs gained by physical, personal communication. We've become a
society of zombies, relying on text messages to communicate, often being
totally misinterpreted.

Many people, especially young ones, don't know how to deal with
adversity or problems because they lack the personal and physical
interaction with others.

Einstein had it right:

http://firsttoknow.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Technology_Einstein.jpg







There's a world of medical literature and research on the problems
created by isolation from society. Old causes and new causes, such as
those you mention.

It's common in literature, too, e.g., the works of Camus, Beckett,
Dostoyevsky, and in the works of Durkheim. Beckett's Waiting for Godot
is worth a read, if you are interested in what happens to people who are
so disconnected, they cannot do much of anything.




The problem I have with all that Harry is that psychoanalysis remains a
very inexact science, IMO (recognizing that I am not in anyway qualified
to judge). Sure, statistics are kept and theories abound but they are
constantly changing or being replaced with new theories.

It's basic common sense to me that when human beings have limited
exposure and direct interaction with others in a social environment they
are going to have difficulties understanding or dealing with issues that
involve others.

In our days of youth we pretty much knew who to avoid, who to challenge,
who to hang with or whatever due to our personal and physical
relationships. It's unlikely either of us would go up to the biggest,
strongest, meanest jock in our class and call him an asshole. We'd
probably get our blocks knocked off.

Threats or violent tendencies today are isolated by virtue of being
words on a screen. We witness it here in this newsgroup from time to
time. People make threats to others with absolutely no idea who they
are talking to, what the person is like, how big they may be or whatever.

I relate the same thing to the violence we read about everyday and the
attempts to apply mood altering drugs to kids who would be perfectly
normal if you took their cell phones away and had them join a youth
baseball team or something to occupy their time, learn to interact with
others and, learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/14, 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I relate the same thing to the violence we read about everyday and the
attempts to apply mood altering drugs to kids who would be perfectly
normal if you took their cell phones away and had them join a youth
baseball team or something to occupy their time, learn to interact with
others and, learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

I haven't seen any papers on the impact of cell phone removal and the
return of kids to ordinary behavior. Sounds like a great idea for a
fully funded study. :)

I'm in favor of promoting youth baseball.

We have a friend whose 22-year-old son is finishing up college. Decent
looking boy, not stupid, doesn't date and has never gotten laid. We're
very worried about him. Seriously.


--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 12:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I relate the same thing to the violence we read about everyday and the
attempts to apply mood altering drugs to kids who would be perfectly
normal if you took their cell phones away and had them join a youth
baseball team or something to occupy their time, learn to interact with
others and, learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.


I haven't seen any papers on the impact of cell phone removal and the
return of kids to ordinary behavior. Sounds like a great idea for a
fully funded study. :)


IMO that's part of the problem that exists today. The concept and
application of parental common sense has been replaced by a perceived
requirement for fully funded studies.

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On 6/14/2014 12:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/14/14, 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I relate the same thing to the violence we read about everyday and the
attempts to apply mood altering drugs to kids who would be perfectly
normal if you took their cell phones away and had them join a youth
baseball team or something to occupy their time, learn to interact with
others and, learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

I haven't seen any papers on the impact of cell phone removal and the
return of kids to ordinary behavior. Sounds like a great idea for a
fully funded study. :)

I'm in favor of promoting youth baseball.

We have a friend whose 22-year-old son is finishing up college. Decent
looking boy, not stupid, doesn't date and has never gotten laid. We're
very worried about him. Seriously.


What worries you? That he might be gay?

Mass murders and prescription drugs
 

On Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:39:49 PM UTC-7, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 6/14/2014 12:20 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 6/14/14, 12:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



I relate the same thing to the violence we read about everyday and the

attempts to apply mood altering drugs to kids who would be perfectly

normal if you took their cell phones away and had them join a youth

baseball team or something to occupy their time, learn to interact with

others and, learn that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.



I haven't seen any papers on the impact of cell phone removal and the

return of kids to ordinary behavior. Sounds like a great idea for a

fully funded study. :)



I'm in favor of promoting youth baseball.



We have a friend whose 22-year-old son is finishing up college. Decent

looking boy, not stupid, doesn't date and has never gotten laid. We're

very worried about him. Seriously.





What worries you? That he might be gay?

Harry is concerned that the young lad has chosen not to fall into a filthy and immoral behaviour that Krause himself has boasted of living out his younger days.