On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:20:15 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


Boston and it's immediate surrounding sections are basically "no issue"
areas for concealed carry permits and are probably very restrictive in
the other 3 permit classes as well. It's the pulsating heart of
"progressive" liberalism and Mini-Me would like nothing better than to
ban all guns everywhere.

You sound like you're uphappy there. When you move south you can buy
all the guns your heart desires. You can then be happy about how easy
it is to own guns.

What sounds unhappy about where Luddite lives? He may be complaining about the stupidity of some
laws, but how does that translate to 'unhappiness'?

How many guns do you own? If you're against gun ownership, why not say something to your liberal
arsenal-owning hero?

jps wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:17:05 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 22:46:33 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 21:37:04 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 14:06:12 -0700, jps wrote:

Maybe they'll make it part of XGames or the Olympics!

A northern Indiana man has pleaded guilty to criminal charges after
killing his fiancee’s 3-year-old son while they were playing a “gun
game” in their Michigan City home.

Authorities said Zachariah Grisham, 24, frequently played a game in
which he would point a real gun at the boy while child would point an
imaginary gun back.

Grisham shot the boy in the head in September 2013. He told police he
forgot his gun was loaded and pulled the trigger.

Grisham pleaded guilty Thursday to a felony charge of child neglect.
He was originally charged with both child neglect and reckless
homicide.

Authorities said the shooting wasnÂ’t intentional.

“It did not meet the qualifications of murder. It’s a very unfortunate
incident,” LaPorte County Deputy Prosecutor Dave Ambers told The Times
of Northwest Indiana.

Grisham faces up to 12 years in prison.


A guy ****ed up and he is going to jail, what's your point?

If everyone who killed his kid doing something stupid in a car went to
jail we would run out of places to build prisons pretty quickly.

Let's assume that whatever was happened in your hypothetical car trip
was in service of getting people from one place to another, when
something ****ed up. Or, are you saying that parents regularly take
their kids out in the car expressly to play games of chicken?

Please explain what purpose there is in playing games with guns?

If people didn't "play games" with cars everyone would be driving a
Corolla (or some other "sensible" car).
If we put the same kind of restrictions on cars you want on guns they
would have 5 point seat belts for all occupants, there would be speed
governors, biometric sensors to be sure only authorized drivers were
driving, high performance cars would be banned and we would all have
to wear helmets.

It would certainly save lives (more than gun restrictions) and you
could still get back and forth to work "unhindered".

That's baloney. There's no test for owning a firearm, you don't have
to know the laws, you just go in and fill out the paperwork and if
you're not a felon, you get a gun.

Not one state allows you to operated a car without proper training.

Your analogy doesn't hold water. In other words that dog won't hunt.

You have to pass a test in California to purchase a handgun.

wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:41:42 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:17:05 -0400, wrote:

If people didn't "play games" with cars everyone would be driving a
Corolla (or some other "sensible" car).
If we put the same kind of restrictions on cars you want on guns they
would have 5 point seat belts for all occupants, there would be speed
governors, biometric sensors to be sure only authorized drivers were
driving, high performance cars would be banned and we would all have
to wear helmets.

It would certainly save lives (more than gun restrictions) and you
could still get back and forth to work "unhindered".

That's baloney. There's no test for owning a firearm, you don't have
to know the laws, you just go in and fill out the paperwork and if
you're not a felon, you get a gun.

You really need to get out a little more. States are already moving
that way and you want more

Not one state allows you to operated a car without proper training.

HUH? A drive around the block without hitting anything and parking
the car when you were 16 does not demonstrate any particular proper
training.
After that, for the next 70 years, anyone who can hobble up to the
counter, read line 3 on the eye chart and write a check is "properly
trained". It is mail order in most states these days.
Talk about dogs that can't hunt.


Your analogy doesn't hold water. In other words that dog won't hunt.

Woof Woof.

My mom was a bad driver in her later years. At 89 turning 90, she aced the
written test and they did not behind the wheel test her, and issued a 5
year license! And you only have to drive around for a couple days and see
really bad driving.

On 6/12/2014 9:54 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:42 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 8:37 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:10:55 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:21:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

BTW there are several states that do require some training for a
handgun card and all of them require training for a concealed carry
card

If you have a DD214 with anything greater than a general discharge you
can fore go the training. If you are active duty or reserve you can fore
go the training.

At a certain point I agree with JP. The CCW course has very little to
do with the gun and mostly talks about why you can't actually use the
gun. (use of deadly force law)
You did not get that in the Marines.

That still has little to do with a guy who buys a skeet gun or a
hunting rifle.,

We learned how to shoot targets at 200, 300 and 500 yards with the M16A1
for qualification. We did fam fire with the M16A1 on full-auto. We also
fam fired the 1911 in .45.

Nobody died on Parris Island while I was there.

You guys must be good. Our longest range target was only 300 yards, for the M14.

#00 yds is pleanty long enough for self defense practice, Except, maybe
for Harry Krause.

That '#' shows you were taught to capitalize the first word of a sentence. Must have had a non-union
teacher. Maybe a nun. They'd sneak up behind and smack the **** out of your ear for not capitalizing
appropriately.

Everyone knows that the pound sign is a capital 3.

On 6/12/2014 11:48 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/12/14, 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:54:39 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:42 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

#00 yds is pleanty long enough for self defense practice, Except, maybe
for Harry Krause.

That '#' shows you were taught to capitalize the first word of a
sentence. Must have had a non-union
teacher. Maybe a nun. They'd sneak up behind and smack the **** out
of your ear for not capitalizing
appropriately.


Actually you should write out a number if it is the first thing in a
sentence.



Herring should consider getting psychiatric help for his "Harry Obsession."

Do you know any decent psychiatric helpers? I sure don't.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/12/14, 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:27:33 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/11/2014 10:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

No law against "brandishing" a firearm? That's what would get you
arrested in many places.

http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/

Didn't Florida recently pass a law stating that accidental brandishing
was no longer a criminal offense?

That refers to something like your gun "printing" on a covering
garment or your coat blowing open for a moment. If you intentionally
hold your coat open to show your gun or pull it out to threaten
someone, it is still brandishing.

They are working on a "warning shot" exception to the 10-20-life law.
As it is, if you fire a warning shot, you better look like you have a
valid reason to kill them and you just missed. Every instructor I have
ever had said you just shoot for the center of mass, no warning shots.
That bullet is going to land somewhere and the only place you are
legally allowed to have it land is in a person who is presenting an
imminent threat to you.

BTW that is not necessarily true if an animal that is posing that
threat.
The burden of proof is much higher if you shoot a protected animal.


Well, of course...you want to be able to legally stand your ground
against a raccoon walking through your yard. It's Florida.


Hell, I wanted to shoot a raccoon in the yard the other night. Maybe two.
1:30 am and get woke up to fighting raccoons.

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:21:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

BTW there are several states that do require some training for a
handgun card and all of them require training for a concealed carry
card

If you have a DD214 with anything greater than a general discharge you
can fore go the training. If you are active duty or reserve you can fore
go the training.

At a certain point I agree with JP. The CCW course has very little to
do with the gun and mostly talks about why you can't actually use the
gun. (use of deadly force law)
You did not get that in the Marines.

That still has little to do with a guy who buys a skeet gun or a
hunting rifle.,

We learned how to shoot targets at 200, 300 and 500 yards with the M16A1
for qualification. We did fam fire with the M16A1 on full-auto. We also
fam fired the 1911 in .45.

Nobody died on Parris Island while I was there.

I was Air Force. We were not allowed to fire the M16 on full auto. And
basic at Lackland used M1 carbines.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:31:49 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 9:54 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:42 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 8:37 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:10:55 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 11 Jun 2014 19:21:21 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

BTW there are several states that do require some training for a
handgun card and all of them require training for a concealed carry
card

If you have a DD214 with anything greater than a general discharge you
can fore go the training. If you are active duty or reserve you can fore
go the training.

At a certain point I agree with JP. The CCW course has very little to
do with the gun and mostly talks about why you can't actually use the
gun. (use of deadly force law)
You did not get that in the Marines.

That still has little to do with a guy who buys a skeet gun or a
hunting rifle.,

We learned how to shoot targets at 200, 300 and 500 yards with the M16A1
for qualification. We did fam fire with the M16A1 on full-auto. We also
fam fired the 1911 in .45.

Nobody died on Parris Island while I was there.

You guys must be good. Our longest range target was only 300 yards, for the M14.

#00 yds is pleanty long enough for self defense practice, Except, maybe
for Harry Krause.

That '#' shows you were taught to capitalize the first word of a sentence. Must have had a non-union
teacher. Maybe a nun. They'd sneak up behind and smack the **** out of your ear for not capitalizing
appropriately.

Everyone knows that the pound sign is a capital 3.

Absolutely. That's what Sister Mary Rosella taught me.

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:33:34 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:

On 6/12/2014 11:48 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/12/14, 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:54:39 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:51:42 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

#00 yds is pleanty long enough for self defense practice, Except, maybe
for Harry Krause.

That '#' shows you were taught to capitalize the first word of a
sentence. Must have had a non-union
teacher. Maybe a nun. They'd sneak up behind and smack the **** out
of your ear for not capitalizing
appropriately.


Actually you should write out a number if it is the first thing in a
sentence.



Herring should consider getting psychiatric help for his "Harry Obsession."

Do you know any decent psychiatric helpers? I sure don't.

Apparently the one to whom he was the closest has moved back to Jacksonville. That big,
twin-Volvo-engined trawler must get awful lonely all by his lonesome.

Poor thing.

On 6/12/14, 3:44 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 6/12/14, 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014 07:27:33 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 6/11/2014 10:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

No law against "brandishing" a firearm? That's what would get you
arrested in many places.

http://www.usacarry.com/brandishing-firearm/

Didn't Florida recently pass a law stating that accidental brandishing
was no longer a criminal offense?

That refers to something like your gun "printing" on a covering
garment or your coat blowing open for a moment. If you intentionally
hold your coat open to show your gun or pull it out to threaten
someone, it is still brandishing.

They are working on a "warning shot" exception to the 10-20-life law.
As it is, if you fire a warning shot, you better look like you have a
valid reason to kill them and you just missed. Every instructor I have
ever had said you just shoot for the center of mass, no warning shots.
That bullet is going to land somewhere and the only place you are
legally allowed to have it land is in a person who is presenting an
imminent threat to you.

BTW that is not necessarily true if an animal that is posing that
threat.
The burden of proof is much higher if you shoot a protected animal.


Well, of course...you want to be able to legally stand your ground
against a raccoon walking through your yard. It's Florida.


Hell, I wanted to shoot a raccoon in the yard the other night. Maybe two.
1:30 am and get woke up to fighting raccoons.


Well, of course, because little animals are soooo annoying and there's
no reason to leave them alone. I get it.

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