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KC May 28th 14 04:10 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...

H*a*r*r*o*l*d May 28th 14 06:10 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...


Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.

Poquito Loco May 28th 14 09:44 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On Wed, 28 May 2014 11:10:40 -0400, KC wrote:

So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...


I've had great luck with my Garmin, although it and I may disagree on the best route every now and
then. And I can't understand why the directions going are often different than the directions
returning, assuming the traffic hasn't jammed up.

KC May 29th 14 02:24 AM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/28/2014 1:10 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...


Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.


I took it back today and replaced it with a Garmin 65... It is set up
the way I would expect a nav system to be set up, accessable all over,
changable and add on colors available, nice interface, easy access to
all you need... I like it. Well, almost... I tried the one with Free
Lifetime Maps but I am trading it for the one with Maps and traffic.. I
do like having live traffic now that I have had it once with the ********...

KC May 29th 14 02:25 AM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/28/2014 4:44 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2014 11:10:40 -0400, KC wrote:

So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...


I've had great luck with my Garmin, although it and I may disagree on the best route every now and
then. And I can't understand why the directions going are often different than the directions
returning, assuming the traffic hasn't jammed up.


I had the two ways coming and going with Tom Tom too.. I found once that
a long entrance road, or access road getting on or off a highway can
make a difference and send you to a totally different direction, etc...
only takes a few seconds of calculation to make one direction shorter
one way and longer another.

Poquito Loco May 29th 14 12:35 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On Wed, 28 May 2014 21:24:01 -0400, KC wrote:

On 5/28/2014 1:10 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...


Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.


I took it back today and replaced it with a Garmin 65... It is set up
the way I would expect a nav system to be set up, accessable all over,
changable and add on colors available, nice interface, easy access to
all you need... I like it. Well, almost... I tried the one with Free
Lifetime Maps but I am trading it for the one with Maps and traffic.. I
do like having live traffic now that I have had it once with the ********...


The free lifetime maps is a good way to go. I still get traffic information. We have an old NUVI
1450.

F*O*A*D May 29th 14 01:26 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/29/14, 7:35 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2014 21:24:01 -0400, KC wrote:

On 5/28/2014 1:10 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.


I took it back today and replaced it with a Garmin 65... It is set up
the way I would expect a nav system to be set up, accessable all over,
changable and add on colors available, nice interface, easy access to
all you need... I like it. Well, almost... I tried the one with Free
Lifetime Maps but I am trading it for the one with Maps and traffic.. I
do like having live traffic now that I have had it once with the ********...


The free lifetime maps is a good way to go. I still get traffic information. We have an old NUVI
1450.



Standalone GPS units for cars are about as obsolete as your political
thinking. If you like Garmin products, its U.S.A. mapping program for
iPhones and iPads duplicates the features of those units and is easy to
update over wifi. I have that and a standalone Garmin unit, and the
standalone unit stays home. Apple and Google also offer similar software
programs, and they are pretty good and getting better. I usually use the
Google program. It has a live traffic option, I believe, but I've never
used it.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!

Boating All Out May 29th 14 03:50 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
In article , says...


Standalone GPS units for cars are about as obsolete as your political
thinking. If you like Garmin products, its U.S.A. mapping program for
iPhones and iPads duplicates the features of those units and is easy to
update over wifi. I have that and a standalone Garmin unit, and the
standalone unit stays home. Apple and Google also offer similar software
programs, and they are pretty good and getting better. I usually use the
Google program. It has a live traffic option, I believe, but I've never
used it.


Plenty of use for stand-alone units.
Many people don't pay the monthly charges for cell phones, or data plans
that provide mapping. I'm one of them.
Besides, my eyes need a bigger screen, and I don't like pasting my cell
phone to the windshield.
I'm thinking about buying a new Garmin with lifetime maps.
Not thinking of changing my cellphones, which costs me ~$50 a year for
two phones.


KC May 30th 14 02:45 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/29/2014 6:03 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 5/29/14, 7:35 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2014 21:24:01 -0400, KC wrote:

On 5/28/2014 1:10 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel, grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.

I took it back today and replaced it with a Garmin 65... It is set up
the way I would expect a nav system to be set up, accessable all over,
changable and add on colors available, nice interface, easy access to
all you need... I like it. Well, almost... I tried the one with Free
Lifetime Maps but I am trading it for the one with Maps and traffic.. I
do like having live traffic now that I have had it once with the ********...

The free lifetime maps is a good way to go. I still get traffic information. We have an old NUVI
1450.



Standalone GPS units for cars are about as obsolete as your political
thinking. If you like Garmin products, its U.S.A. mapping program for
iPhones and iPads duplicates the features of those units and is easy to
update over wifi. I have that and a standalone Garmin unit, and the
standalone unit stays home. Apple and Google also offer similar software
programs, and they are pretty good and getting better. I usually use the
Google program. It has a live traffic option, I believe, but I've never
used it.


The nice thing about standalone GPS units is that you don't have to pay
the phone company to use them all of the time.



Not to mention my stand alone has a 6 inch screen so I can see it. I
would never be able to see my phone while driving and wouldn't want
anything bigger than my phone now in my pocket... But them libs always
know best:) Whatever's best for them is obviously best for everybody...

F*O*A*D May 30th 14 03:19 PM

TomTom disappointment...
 
On 5/30/14, 9:45 AM, KC wrote:
On 5/29/2014 6:03 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On 5/29/14, 7:35 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2014 21:24:01 -0400, KC wrote:

On 5/28/2014 1:10 PM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 5/28/2014 11:10 AM, KC wrote:
So my 8 month old TomTom **** the bed and was replaced by a
TomTom Go
60. It's going back today. They totally closed the system so you
can not
put in any personal way points, voices, color schemes, period. The
interface has also changed so the current time, voice control
volume and
mute, next turn repeat, and several other settings that used to be
either on the display, or available with one touch of the
display, deep
into the menu system which is unusable as is most of the display
as Tom
Tom has decided we only need one color scheme and it's pastel,
grey, and
even more grey. As much of a rant as this is, I *literally* can
not see
the screen anywhere in my vehicle during daylight hours unless
there is
heavy cloud cover and like I said, TomTom has decided that we
don't need
any other options there... I spent a lot time with support for
TomTom
and it's clear they have not addressed any of these issues since
last
year, and don't intend to any time soon with the Go series Tom
Tom...
so, it goes back today, so disappointed...

Thanks for the heads up. Sounds like Tom Tom is trying to put
itself out
of business.
My new RV came with a Rand McNally GPS built in. It's OK but lacks
a lot
of features that Garmin has. One thing I do like about it is, speed
limit changes are announced in advance, also road construction.

I took it back today and replaced it with a Garmin 65... It is set up
the way I would expect a nav system to be set up, accessable all over,
changable and add on colors available, nice interface, easy access to
all you need... I like it. Well, almost... I tried the one with Free
Lifetime Maps but I am trading it for the one with Maps and
traffic.. I
do like having live traffic now that I have had it once with the
********...

The free lifetime maps is a good way to go. I still get traffic
information. We have an old NUVI
1450.



Standalone GPS units for cars are about as obsolete as your political
thinking. If you like Garmin products, its U.S.A. mapping program for
iPhones and iPads duplicates the features of those units and is easy to
update over wifi. I have that and a standalone Garmin unit, and the
standalone unit stays home. Apple and Google also offer similar software
programs, and they are pretty good and getting better. I usually use the
Google program. It has a live traffic option, I believe, but I've never
used it.


The nice thing about standalone GPS units is that you don't have to pay
the phone company to use them all of the time.



Not to mention my stand alone has a 6 inch screen so I can see it. I
would never be able to see my phone while driving and wouldn't want
anything bigger than my phone now in my pocket... But them libs always
know best:) Whatever's best for them is obviously best for everybody...



I'm sure your GPS will tell you "In 1.5 miles, turn right onto Stupid
Lane," the point being that usually you don't have to look at your 6"
screen. Also, there are phones out now with 5" screens. Stand-alone GPS
units for cars are well on the way to being obsolete.

--
If right-wing assholes could fly,
rec.boats would be an airport!


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