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Yo jps!
On Wed, 21 May 2014 09:28:42 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:11:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/21/14, 11:58 AM, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 08:29:35 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:18:33 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote: On 5/20/14, 9:14 PM, wrote: It takes longer to load a speed loader than it takes to load the gun. If there is nobody shooting at you, why bother? I told you...for "play." You shouldn't play with guns, or their accoutrements. You don't like SA's because they are too fiddly, but you "play" (fiddle) around with speed loaders? Strange. Speed loaders were promoted in the 60s and 70s as a way to prolong the life of aging revolver technology in police departments. The perception was advanced that these were as effective as a box magazine. It never really caught on and as the power and effectiveness of the moldy old 9mm round got better, the familiar old "police .38" went the way of the horse drawn paddy wagon. Unfortunately the thing that allowed cops to carry a 6 shooter for 100 years, marksmanship, went along with it. Now cops with double stack 9's just spray and pray, usually missing with more rounds than hit the intended target. That is how 10 bystanders get hit trying to shoot one gunman and unarmed people get shot 41 times (out of close to 70 rounds fired) JackOff still posts here? Yes, JackOff, I find SA revolvers "fiddly" to load and unload with that damned loading gate and having to push the plunger every time to get each piece of brass out. I don't have any trouble loading a cylinder with a speed loader, despite my comments about unloading the empties into a plastic box while loading the chambers at nearly the same time with a speed loader. My thoughts about "carry" are evolving. I have no objection to concealed carry generally, but I now think those who do should have to demonstrate serious proficiency with a handgun and pass a serious psychological exam. I've read the comments of too many retarded hotheads on gun discussion boards to think that anyone who can fog a mirror should be able to "carry." We have a couple of bat**** crazy posters right here in rec.boats who shouldn't be allowed near hand tools, let alone a concealed handgun. We had a kid with mental problems shoot up a cafe in Seattle a couple of years ago. I don't recall how many died and how many lives were shattered as a result. He had a CCP and his father pleaded with authorities to revoke it. The state wouldn't since the son hadn't been committed. He'd demonstrated poor judgement and a furious temper and had been acting erratically but there was nothing the state could do and he hadn't gone far enough to be committed. Someone nixed him from the cafe for his irrational borderline behavior and he went off. Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. |
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#5
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Yo jps!
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? |
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Yo jps!
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:48:22 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? If you wanted to respond to me, perhaps you could have addressed my question. Do you ever answer a question? I asked for a cite about 11,000 gun deaths a year provided by "illegal gun owners." Were they "illegal" before they shot someone or before? Nearly half of gun deaths each year are suicides, should we expect that'll be your fitting end when you've had enough? |
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Yo jps!
On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:06:49 -0700, jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:48:22 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? If you wanted to respond to me, perhaps you could have addressed my question. Do you ever answer a question? I asked for a cite about 11,000 gun deaths a year provided by "illegal gun owners." Perhaps the 11000 was a made up number or perhaps it wasn't. But for sure there were well over 400 shootings in Chicago alone last year. I expect there are a lot in most of the other big cities also. What percent of those folks do you think were 'legal' gun owners? In any case, you didn't ask a question. You said, "Cite please." That's not a question. Were they "illegal" before they shot someone or before? Nearly half of gun deaths each year are suicides, should we expect that'll be your fitting end when you've had enough? Show us the cite for that statistic, would you please? |
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#8
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Yo jps!
On 5/21/2014 3:06 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:48:22 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? If you wanted to respond to me, perhaps you could have addressed my question. Do you ever answer a question? I asked for a cite about 11,000 gun deaths a year provided by "illegal gun owners." Were they "illegal" before they shot someone or before? Nearly half of gun deaths each year are suicides, should we expect that'll be your fitting end when you've had enough? It would be your fitting end but like harry, you won't come out from under a desk.... You talk big, nobody here believes a bit of it really... |
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#9
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Yo jps!
On 5/21/14, 11:11 PM, KC wrote:
On 5/21/2014 3:06 PM, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:48:22 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? If you wanted to respond to me, perhaps you could have addressed my question. Do you ever answer a question? I asked for a cite about 11,000 gun deaths a year provided by "illegal gun owners." Were they "illegal" before they shot someone or before? Nearly half of gun deaths each year are suicides, should we expect that'll be your fitting end when you've had enough? It would be your fitting end but like harry, you won't come out from under a desk.... You talk big, nobody here believes a bit of it really... Translation...he isn't going to drive to the part of Connecticut where Ingerfool lives so he can get into a fistfight with the little twerp and beat the crap out of him in front of his family. |
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#10
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Yo jps!
jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:48:22 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:17:35 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 12:45:51 -0400, Poquito Loco wrote: Sensible gun control laws will never be written. We'll just keep having more incidents like Cafe Racer where innocents are gunned down by "lawful gun owners," ...until they're not. Sensible gun control laws are all over the books. Look at Chicago and tell me how well they're enforced. I do find it amusing that guys like JPS rail on for years about the handful of "lawful gun owners" who shoot someone but are strangely silent about the 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people every year. Then he blames it on the lack of more gun laws. I suppose the government could just ban guns. That worked so well on drugs. Hell, why don't we just pass a law that makes murder illegal ... problem solved. 11,000 illegal gun owners who kill people. Cite please. Guns being sold in massive quantities without controlled distribution and stuipd owners who do not lock them up is half the reason why it's so easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun. Most of them are stolen from "legal gun owners" from what I understand. Your 'understanding' is bull****. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics firearms possessed by prison inmates at the time of offense only about 9.1% in 1994 and 7.5% in 2004 were acquired from theft or burglary. That's a far cry from your 'most' claim. Next tell me that prison inmates aren't representative of the population committing murders. In 2004 more than 25% of the firearms acquired by these folks came from drug dealers or others on 'the street'. Be sure and pass on to your buddy, Krause the gun nut in BAO's opinion, that in both years less than 1% of those folks acquired their guns from gun shows. Do you ever feel like you're just full of ****? If you wanted to respond to me, perhaps you could have addressed my question. Do you ever answer a question? I asked for a cite about 11,000 gun deaths a year provided by "illegal gun owners." Were they "illegal" before they shot someone or before? Nearly half of gun deaths each year are suicides, should we expect that'll be your fitting end when you've had enough? Hell, it is illegal to attempt suicide. We get lots of jumpers off the GG Bridge. So many, and they are not publicized to prevent more leaps of doom. Illegal to jump from the bridge. Works to stop jumpers? Maybe we need to make it easier for someone to off themselves with out the mess of shooting themselves or jumping. How many suicide via car are there? |
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