On 5/16/14, 3:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:27:29 -0700, jps wrote:

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

You don't think Marissa Alexander was treated harshly enough?


Hey, she's not a "white guy" like your friendly neighborhood shooter,
Zimmerman. Three 20 year terms for trying to scare off her husband, the
spousal abuser.

On 5/16/2014 3:27 PM, jps wrote:

On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?



I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

Reasonable. Many states (including my own) have such statutes on the
books with more being added every year (like Maryland, New York, New
Jersey).

How about concealed carry permits? Does being able to defend yourself
extend beyond your home in your view?

On 5/16/2014 3:27 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/15/2014 12:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 19:30:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 5:15 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/13/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/13/2014 3:31 PM, jps wrote:

You don't leave running cars lying around the house, nor are they
designed to kill things. They're what's called transportation, dummy.




One of the design purposes of a gun is to prevent *being* killed.


Another, of course, is to kill.



uh huh. So, who's going to declare a truce and disarm first ... those
who try to kill or those who are trying to prevent being killed?

Those with guns who are trying to prevent being killed far outnumber
those who actually kill. The vast majority of gun owners are law
abiding and would only shoot someone as a last resort measure.

Most gun related events in the home aren't related to crime prevention
or bodily injury prevention but accidents or domestic disputes between
family members.

Prevention is among the least likely uses for guns in a home.


See? Some would argue that it works! :-)

I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?

I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

So you have a gun(s). Yup, I knew it.

On Fri, 16 May 2014 16:02:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/16/14, 3:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:27:29 -0700, jps wrote:

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

You don't think Marissa Alexander was treated harshly enough?


Hey, she's not a "white guy" like your friendly neighborhood shooter,
Zimmerman. Three 20 year terms for trying to scare off her husband, the
spousal abuser.

If she'd have been a white blonde and her husband black and abusive,
she'd be doing television promos for a car dealership somewhere in
Florida wearin' a sexy getup and sportin' a six shooter.

On Fri, 16 May 2014 16:35:50 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 5/16/2014 3:27 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/15/2014 12:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 19:30:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 5:15 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/13/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/13/2014 3:31 PM, jps wrote:

You don't leave running cars lying around the house, nor are they
designed to kill things. They're what's called transportation, dummy.




One of the design purposes of a gun is to prevent *being* killed.


Another, of course, is to kill.



uh huh. So, who's going to declare a truce and disarm first ... those
who try to kill or those who are trying to prevent being killed?

Those with guns who are trying to prevent being killed far outnumber
those who actually kill. The vast majority of gun owners are law
abiding and would only shoot someone as a last resort measure.

Most gun related events in the home aren't related to crime prevention
or bodily injury prevention but accidents or domestic disputes between
family members.

Prevention is among the least likely uses for guns in a home.


See? Some would argue that it works! :-)

I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?

I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

So you have a gun(s). Yup, I knew it.

You either don't read very much or real good.

On 5/16/14, 4:44 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 16:02:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/16/14, 3:40 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:27:29 -0700, jps wrote:

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

You don't think Marissa Alexander was treated harshly enough?


Hey, she's not a "white guy" like your friendly neighborhood shooter,
Zimmerman. Three 20 year terms for trying to scare off her husband, the
spousal abuser.

If she'd have been a white blonde and her husband black and abusive,
she'd be doing television promos for a car dealership somewhere in
Florida wearin' a sexy getup and sportin' a six shooter.



Yup. A used car and RV dealership that also butchered wild hawgs out in
back.

On 5/16/14, 4:46 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 16 May 2014 16:35:50 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

On 5/16/2014 3:27 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/15/2014 12:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 19:30:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 5:15 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/13/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/13/2014 3:31 PM, jps wrote:

You don't leave running cars lying around the house, nor are they
designed to kill things. They're what's called transportation, dummy.




One of the design purposes of a gun is to prevent *being* killed.


Another, of course, is to kill.



uh huh. So, who's going to declare a truce and disarm first ... those
who try to kill or those who are trying to prevent being killed?

Those with guns who are trying to prevent being killed far outnumber
those who actually kill. The vast majority of gun owners are law
abiding and would only shoot someone as a last resort measure.

Most gun related events in the home aren't related to crime prevention
or bodily injury prevention but accidents or domestic disputes between
family members.

Prevention is among the least likely uses for guns in a home.


See? Some would argue that it works! :-)

I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?

I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

So you have a gun(s). Yup, I knew it.

You either don't read very much or real good.



FlaJim's MOS in "letters" when he was in the Navy was deckpaint
chipper/head swabber.

On 5/16/14, 4:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/16/2014 3:27 PM, jps wrote:

On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?



I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

Reasonable. Many states (including my own) have such statutes on the
books with more being added every year (like Maryland, New York, New
Jersey).

How about concealed carry permits? Does being able to defend yourself
extend beyond your home in your view?





Under certain circumstances and, of course, if you fire that handgun and
you miss and hit someone else, you face criminal charges and civil
suits...no excuse that you were "defending yourself."

On 5/16/2014 7:05 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:02:42 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/15/2014 12:52 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 19:30:29 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 5:15 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/13/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 5/13/2014 3:31 PM, jps wrote:

You don't leave running cars lying around the house, nor are they
designed to kill things. They're what's called transportation, dummy.




One of the design purposes of a gun is to prevent *being* killed.


Another, of course, is to kill.



uh huh. So, who's going to declare a truce and disarm first ... those
who try to kill or those who are trying to prevent being killed?

Those with guns who are trying to prevent being killed far outnumber
those who actually kill. The vast majority of gun owners are law
abiding and would only shoot someone as a last resort measure.

Most gun related events in the home aren't related to crime prevention
or bodily injury prevention but accidents or domestic disputes between
family members.

Prevention is among the least likely uses for guns in a home.


See? Some would argue that it works! :-)

I posed a question to you a week or so ago and don't know if you
responded with an answer or not. Might have missed it.
I asked what *your* position on guns is. Do you favor private ownership
at all of handguns or are you an advocate to outlaw them entirely?

I'm in favor of people being able to defend themselves, their
families, their homes.

I would, however, put stringent controls on the sale, ownership and
transfer of weapons and treat those who misunderstand the law very
harshly.

I told you his was a do as I say, not as I do type.


It seriously is a liberal thing.... Look at the height of hypocrisy,
colleges. Rutgers a so called "bastion of free speech", just had it's
faculty lead a resistance that made Condi Rice turn down an invitation
when recently they paid "Snookie" to speak there... What a bunch of
morons let me add ****ing to that.. What a bunch of ****ing morons...

On 5/16/14, 7:48 PM, KC wrote:
On 5/16/2014 7:05 PM, BAR wrote:



It seriously is a liberal thing.... Look at the height of hypocrisy,
colleges. Rutgers a so called "bastion of free speech", just had it's
faculty lead a resistance that made Condi Rice turn down an invitation
when recently they paid "Snookie" to speak there... What a bunch of
morons let me add ****ing to that.. What a bunch of ****ing morons...

Actually, the students at Rutgers led the protests against Rice. Not to
worry, you couldn't get a job digging fence postholes there, either.