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No, we don't know...
Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" |
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#2
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No, we don't know...
On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:21:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" === My guess is that if you gave the average Russian a map and asked them to locate Huntington, Maryland, they would probably say something like: "That's down near the ass, isn't it" ? |
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#3
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On Monday, April 7, 2014 4:21:16 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least "somewhat closely," most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground -- or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine's actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off -- roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" MORE CLIP N PASTE GARBAGE BY THE ****. |
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#4
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F*O*A*D wrote:
Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" Teachers with the "Union Label"? Cut and paste Harry. Did you know where it is located when the **** hit the rotator? Besides, not in our sphere of influence. Let Europe handle it! |
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#5
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No, we don't know...
On 4/7/14, 9:38 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" Teachers with the "Union Label"? Cut and paste Harry. Did you know where it is located when the **** hit the rotator? Besides, not in our sphere of influence. Let Europe handle it! You can't blame teachers for the ignorance of Boobus Americanus. And yes, I knew where the Ukraine was before it popped into the news recently. I also can point out the locations of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldava, and Russia. I might be able to point out Kazakhstan, but I'd probably trip over the locations of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. |
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#6
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On 4/7/2014 10:01 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/7/14, 9:38 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" Teachers with the "Union Label"? Cut and paste Harry. Did you know where it is located when the **** hit the rotator? Besides, not in our sphere of influence. Let Europe handle it! You can't blame teachers for the ignorance of Boobus Americanus. And yes, I knew where the Ukraine was before it popped into the news recently. I also can point out the locations of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldava, and Russia. I might be able to point out Kazakhstan, but I'd probably trip over the locations of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. No surprise there. Krause is a German name, after all. |
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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/7/14, 9:38 PM, Califbill wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Joshua Tucker: The following is a guest post from political scientists Kyle Dropp (Dartmouth College) Joshua D. Kertzer (Harvard University) and Thomas Zeitzoff (Princeton University). ***** Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is. On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force. Ukraine: Where is it? Survey respondents identified Ukraine by clicking on a high-resolution world map, shown above. We then created a distance metric by comparing the coordinates they provided with the actual location of Ukraine on the map. Other scholars, such as Markus Prior, have used pictures to measure visual knowledge, but unlike many of the traditional open-ended items political scientists use to measure knowledge, distance enables us to measure accuracy continuously: People who believe Ukraine is in Eastern Europe clearly are more informed than those who believe it is in Brazil or in the Indian Ocean. About one in six (16 percent) Americans correctly located Ukraine, clicking somewhere within its borders. Most thought that Ukraine was located somewhere in Europe or Asia, but the median respondent was about 1,800 miles off — roughly the distance from Chicago to Los Angeles. http://tinyurl.com/law5ul5 - - - - My guess is that if you gave Americans an outline map of the "Lower 48" states in the U.S.A., and asked them to write in the names of the states, the percentage getting all of them correct would be -maybe- 25%. "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" Teachers with the "Union Label"? Cut and paste Harry. Did you know where it is located when the **** hit the rotator? Besides, not in our sphere of influence. Let Europe handle it! You can't blame teachers for the ignorance of Boobus Americanus. And yes, I knew where the Ukraine was before it popped into the news recently. I also can point out the locations of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldava, and Russia. I might be able to point out Kazakhstan, but I'd probably trip over the locations of Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan. Hell yes, we can blame teachers! Why are the teachers passing dumbos? Where is the standing up for the kids and quality product? |
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#9
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On 4/8/2014 6:33 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/8/14, 1:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 16:21:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: "Where's the Ukraine?" "Oh, somewhere near the Yukon, right?" That public school education I guess. Americans are "suspicious" of intellectually based education and pursuits, and for many, if it isn't job-related, then the question arises, "why teach it." After all, knowing the boundaries of the nations that make up former Soviet Russia isn't going to get you into the Army or that job assembling electronic widgets. I mean, why study history, geographic, language, et cetera. They're just liberal arts pursuits, eh? Your education could have been had from Rosetta Stone, unless of course, you consider the liberal brainwashing you got, part of your education. |
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