On 4/10/2014 11:22 AM, wrote:
Seriously harry, have you ever thought of writing and publishing a book of fictional short stories? You sure write enough of it here. Hell man, if it sold well you could pay off all those debts and taxes!
What's in it for him? What's he got to gain by paying off his debts and
taxes?

On 4/10/2014 8:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/10/14, 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, April 7, 2014 1:28:55 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/7/2014 11:09 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:00:03 -0500, amdx wrote:



A man stops to help a boy after he hit him with his vehicle.

The man is in an induced coma.



"Police have said the crime was not racially motivated. Utash is white

and his attackers were black."



0f course, I'm sure the 12 black attackers would have beat a black

driver just as bad*. That makes the crime better somehow?



http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...troit-hits-96K




===



Don't go there Mike.



Ya, my minority wife might not like it.

But it is OK if Jesse Jackson goes there.

"There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the
street

and hear footsteps

and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody

white and feel relieved."

Jesse Jackson

I understand politically correctness. It sucks.







We all read the news and it's a bad story, but

no one can predict how it might have turned out in different

circumstances. At this point all you can hope for is a good recovery

for the driver and proper justice for the perpetrators.



Agreed.



Mikek

I am surprised Krause didn't comment on Jesse's racist remark.



I was wondering which of the racist morons here would pile on. You
fellas apparently are not aware that the quote you are attributing to
Jackson isn't one that describes *his* feelings, but one used to
describe how he thinks "white people" feel when they hear footsteps
behind them.

Right-wing media outlets have bandied about that quote for decades, and
out of context, of course.

Next?



If I understand what you are saying, He did say the line, (I can only
find that it was originally quoted in US News). I can only find one
reference that gives context to the quote, and that context was, to
paraphrase, yes I grew up in the same racist culture and I have those
feeling to. Is that the context, or is that not what you thought?

But I need to quote someone else,
"Young black males commit crime way out of proportion to their numbers.
Taking that into account when you’re out in the street is not
irrational, it’s street-smart. It’s not profiling, it’s probability."

Street smarts saves lives.

Here is an interesting site to get you thinking.
http://theracecardproject.com/category/race-card/
Poke around a bit.

Mikek

On 4/10/14, 12:00 PM, amdx wrote:
On 4/10/2014 8:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/10/14, 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:
On Monday, April 7, 2014 1:28:55 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/7/2014 11:09 AM, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:00:03 -0500, amdx wrote:



A man stops to help a boy after he hit him with his vehicle.

The man is in an induced coma.



"Police have said the crime was not racially motivated. Utash is
white

and his attackers were black."



0f course, I'm sure the 12 black attackers would have beat a black

driver just as bad*. That makes the crime better somehow?



http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...troit-hits-96K





===



Don't go there Mike.



Ya, my minority wife might not like it.

But it is OK if Jesse Jackson goes there.

"There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the
street

and hear footsteps

and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody

white and feel relieved."

Jesse Jackson

I understand politically correctness. It sucks.







We all read the news and it's a bad story, but

no one can predict how it might have turned out in different

circumstances. At this point all you can hope for is a good recovery

for the driver and proper justice for the perpetrators.



Agreed.



Mikek

I am surprised Krause didn't comment on Jesse's racist remark.



I was wondering which of the racist morons here would pile on. You
fellas apparently are not aware that the quote you are attributing to
Jackson isn't one that describes *his* feelings, but one used to
describe how he thinks "white people" feel when they hear footsteps
behind them.

Right-wing media outlets have bandied about that quote for decades, and
out of context, of course.

Next?



If I understand what you are saying, He did say the line, (I can only
find that it was originally quoted in US News).


All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared
in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from
right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves
Jackson said any such thing.

On Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:05:26 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/10/14, 12:00 PM, amdx wrote:

On 4/10/2014 8:29 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/10/14, 7:18 AM, John H. wrote:

On Monday, April 7, 2014 1:28:55 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 4/7/2014 11:09 AM, Wayne.B wrote:



On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:00:03 -0500, amdx wrote:







A man stops to help a boy after he hit him with his vehicle.



The man is in an induced coma.







"Police have said the crime was not racially motivated. Utash is

white



and his attackers were black."







0f course, I'm sure the 12 black attackers would have beat a black



driver just as bad*. That makes the crime better somehow?







http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...troit-hits-96K











===







Don't go there Mike.







Ya, my minority wife might not like it.



But it is OK if Jesse Jackson goes there.



"There is nothing more painful to me ... than to walk down the

street



and hear footsteps



and start thinking about robbery, then look around and see somebody



white and feel relieved."



Jesse Jackson



I understand politically correctness. It sucks.















We all read the news and it's a bad story, but



no one can predict how it might have turned out in different



circumstances. At this point all you can hope for is a good recovery



for the driver and proper justice for the perpetrators.







Agreed.







Mikek



I am surprised Krause didn't comment on Jesse's racist remark.







I was wondering which of the racist morons here would pile on. You

fellas apparently are not aware that the quote you are attributing to

Jackson isn't one that describes *his* feelings, but one used to

describe how he thinks "white people" feel when they hear footsteps

behind them.



Right-wing media outlets have bandied about that quote for decades, and

out of context, of course.



Next?







If I understand what you are saying, He did say the line, (I can only

find that it was originally quoted in US News).





All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared

in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from

right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves

Jackson said any such thing.

Yet just one post back you tried to definitively say that you knew what he meant when he said it. You're full of it, as usual.

On 4/10/2014 12:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared
in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from
right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves
Jackson said any such thing.



You'd deny he said it even if you originally reported in the Kansas Star
that he *did*. The statement has been (and remains) directly quoted in
many different sources. What one *cannot* find anywhere is a report
that he never said it, nor what he meant by it. You claim never to
have seen a cite that definitively proves Jackson said any such thing,
yet you previously tried to explain away what he meant by it. If he
never said it, why do you need to explain it?

One of the problems in our society is that racism exists and it
originates from all sides and people, whites, blacks, brown, yellow,
whatever. Unfortunately a few (including Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton) have made the issues of racial relationships and conflicts a
means of making a very good living. That's what they do.

On 4/10/14, 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/10/2014 12:05 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:


All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared
in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from
right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves
Jackson said any such thing.



You'd deny he said it even if you originally reported in the Kansas Star
that he *did*. The statement has been (and remains) directly quoted in
many different sources. What one *cannot* find anywhere is a report
that he never said it, nor what he meant by it. You claim never to
have seen a cite that definitively proves Jackson said any such thing,
yet you previously tried to explain away what he meant by it. If he
never said it, why do you need to explain it?

One of the problems in our society is that racism exists and it
originates from all sides and people, whites, blacks, brown, yellow,
whatever. Unfortunately a few (including Jesse Jackson and Al
Sharpton) have made the issues of racial relationships and conflicts a
means of making a very good living. That's what they do.


No person or entity in politics has had more success being racist than
the Republican Party since the mid-1960s. About all the GOP has these
days is racism and hatred and division.

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:46:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared

in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from

right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves

Jackson said any such thing.

Yet just one post back you tried to definitively say that you knew what he meant when he said it. You're full of it, as usual.

===

That's absolutely true of course, but Harry is what he is and nothing
will change him.

After watching more than a few of these exchanges on rec.boats over
the years I am once again reminded of why you should never mud wrestle
with a pig. The pig gets irritated and everyone gets dirty.

On 4/10/2014 3:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:46:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared

in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from

right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves

Jackson said any such thing.

Yet just one post back you tried to definitively say that you knew what he meant when he said it. You're full of it, as usual.

===

That's absolutely true of course, but Harry is what he is and nothing
will change him.

After watching more than a few of these exchanges on rec.boats over
the years I am once again reminded of why you should never mud wrestle
with a pig. The pig gets irritated and everyone gets dirty.



It is fun sometimes however to see how creatively he can rope-a-dope.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 4/10/2014 3:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:46:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared

in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from

right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves

Jackson said any such thing.

Yet just one post back you tried to definitively say that you knew what
he meant when he said it. You're full of it, as usual.

===

That's absolutely true of course, but Harry is what he is and nothing
will change him.

After watching more than a few of these exchanges on rec.boats over
the years I am once again reminded of why you should never mud wrestle
with a pig. The pig gets irritated and everyone gets dirty.



It is fun sometimes however to see how creatively he can rope-a-dope.

The usual smug republicans in denial. Nothing else is new.

On 4/10/2014 3:33 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 4/10/2014 3:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:46:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

All the cites quote back to a 20-year-old item that allegedly appeared

in the Chicago Sun-Times, and virtually all the cites are from

right-wing sites. I've never seen a cite that definitively proves

Jackson said any such thing.

Yet just one post back you tried to definitively say that you knew what
he meant when he said it. You're full of it, as usual.

===

That's absolutely true of course, but Harry is what he is and nothing
will change him.

After watching more than a few of these exchanges on rec.boats over
the years I am once again reminded of why you should never mud wrestle
with a pig. The pig gets irritated and everyone gets dirty.



It is fun sometimes however to see how creatively he can rope-a-dope.

The usual smug republicans in denial. Nothing else is new.


Rope-a-Dope !