If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

.....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.

I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels on the rear instead of the
tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:39:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:31:09 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.

I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels on the rear instead of the
tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

Trikes are really pretty popular these days. I guess they were on the
leading edge back then.

The VM conversion was all the rage in the 60s and 70s. I have seen
totally custom trikes with V-8s. That is scary

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:



Poquito Loco wrote:

....then this site would be very appropriate for information:



http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html



Greg has put together a lot of information.



If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg



* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the

Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels

for difficult terrain.







Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front

wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel

drive.



I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels on the rear instead of the

tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

I'm sure it was an option, but there was an enclosed cab model too!

http://www.bellinaclassicmotors.com/...ole-500cc.html

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:29:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

===

Can you buy one like that or is it purely custom?

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg


Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.

Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.

http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG

Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we’ve seen here, the Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.
I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels on the rear instead of the
tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4
That looks wider but it could be designed that way to handle the bed.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:29:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg
===

Can you buy one like that or is it purely custom?
They are available for sale but big bucks...

http://www.campagnamotors.com/

These are much cheaper and look like more fun...

http://can-am.brp.com/spyder/?redirect=false

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On 3/26/2014 11:27 PM, Earl wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:29:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are
close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close
to being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

===

Can you buy one like that or is it purely custom?
They are available for sale but big bucks...

http://www.campagnamotors.com/

These are much cheaper and look like more fun...

http://can-am.brp.com/spyder/?redirect=false

Yes, she does.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

In article ,
says...


This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

Jets are inefficient anyway.
Surprised you haven't gone solar with a pontoon.
Your location and boating style are made for it.
Keep a lightweight gas kicker.
You done any numbers lately?

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg


Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.

Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.

http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG

Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

That would be a good project! I sold an 850T engine a few years back for $500 in pretty decent
condition. Check the MGNOC adds for 'parting out' and see what you can find.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:53:23 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:





If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.







http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg





Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in it.. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.



Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a steering stick and have at it.



http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG



Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.

http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:41:53 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 20:29:06 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are
close enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to
being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

===

Can you buy one like that or is it purely custom?

That Spyder is a regular production trike

You can get one on Colonial, just east of metro.

This is pretty close to the top of the line (30k)
http://www.sunsportscycle.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=06550867X3K27K2014J2I03 I11JAMQ980R0&veh=379393&CatDesc=&ModelYear=2014

http://tinyurl.com/klvomsa

They also have one for about half that ($15k)

Amazing that it is only $15k. Friends wife bought an Organic Transit
electric bike. $8k.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:20:21 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

Jets are inefficient anyway.
Surprised you haven't gone solar with a pontoon.
Your location and boating style are made for it.
Keep a lightweight gas kicker.
You done any numbers lately?

I am averaging around 1.2-1.3 gallons an hour overall for close to 500
hours. It would take me a long time to recover the cost of a change.
I also like the capability of being able to get up and go when the
weather kicks up so that would require some pretty big electric
motors.

I also keep my boat in a covered slip so the solar collectors would
need to be shore side requiring a bunch of batteries.

I did look into it and the best setup I saw would be a couple of motor
skids with golf cart motors and 12 batteries. The batteries alone will
add ~600 pounds to the boat. It might be a great solution for someone
on a "no gas" lake tho. Even then, the last 2 outboards I have had
were California 3 star rated so it would work on all but the most
restricted lakes.

The newer jets are a lot more efficient. The newest Hamilton's are about
95% the efficiency of props. Mine is an older model and is probably
80-85%.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:53:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:10:03 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg


Id seriously thought of taking my semi-v jon boat and mounting a v7 in
it. I was going to shroud the engine, and then mount a 55a. VW bug
alternator on top of the engine and do riddance of the 15a Marelli
generator. Thus allowing me to use an electric fan to cool the engine.

Then get rescue a 'trash pump' from a clapped out PWC, hook it up to a
steering stick and have at it.

http://jet-jon.com/yahoo_site_admin/...g.21132802.JPG

Hopefully this would be the end result... sort of (skip vid to 1:01)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRFVqSr4dv4

I thought about just using the whole PWC power plant and pump.

The problem is weight so you would almost need a custom built jon
boat.
OTOH they do make a jet ski based RIBs that get you top a similar idea
off the rack.

This is just one type
http://www.aquascanribs.com/jets/

The sheriff played with one here for a year or so but I never saw it
again and I live in the place where it would be most useful so I guess
it wasn't that good for them. It was supposed to run in a few inches
of water but the problem with a jet is when it does run aground, that
is where you are, until you get the mud out of the intake.
That usually involves getting out and bouncing it up and down in a
couple feet of water until you get the pump unplugged enough to prime.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qURP7QG08fQ
Friend of mine Odwil has build a couple of jet ski powered jetboats. Runs
really shallow water. Problem with jets is grass more than mud. They make
a stomp grate for a lot of jets. Basically let's the grate bars move as
two sets and you can press down the lever and every other bar separates.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:



Poquito Loco wrote:

....then this site would be very appropriate for information:



http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html



Greg has put together a lot of information.



If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg



* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler weÂ’ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the

Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly
add tracks to the rear wheels

for difficult terrain.







Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front

wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel

drive.



I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels
on the rear instead of the

tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

I'm sure it was an option, but there was an enclosed cab model too!

http://www.bellinaclassicmotors.com/...ole-500cc.html

You see lots and lots of those in rural, areas of Italy. Their delivery
van.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 19:39:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:31:09 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
....then this site would be very appropriate for information:

http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html

Greg has put together a lot of information.

If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.

http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg

* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler weÂ’ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the
Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to
quickly add tracks to the rear wheels
for difficult terrain.



Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front
wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel
drive.

I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had
wheels on the rear instead of the
tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

Trikes are really pretty popular these days. I guess they were on the
leading edge back then.

The VM conversion was all the rage in the 60s and 70s. I have seen
totally custom trikes with V-8s. That is scary

One of the fears is that Congress will decide that those things are close
enough to autos to follow
the safety requirements of autos. This thing is getting pretty close to
being an automobile.

http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/atta...anyone-rex.jpg

Those amaze me. Have a friend with one. Very stable. I remember the old
3 wheeler police bikes,and meter maids. Those trikes would flop over if you
looked hard at them.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 16:50:28 -0500, Califbill wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, March 26, 2014 3:31:09 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:18:44 -0400, Earl wrote:



Poquito Loco wrote:

....then this site would be very appropriate for information:



http://www.thisoldtractor.com/moto_guzzi.html



Greg has put together a lot of information.



If Guzzi could put together something like this, you'd think they could make a boat.



http://images.hemmings.com/wp-conten...o_resized1.jpg



* While not the first Moto Guzzi three-wheeler we?ve seen here, the
Mulo Meccanico differs from the

Ercole in that it offered three-wheel-drive and the ability to quickly
add tracks to the rear wheels

for difficult terrain.







Looks like three "wheel" drive in that photo. Do you think the front

wheel is powered, too? There are small AT mini bikes that are two-wheel

drive.



I don't think so. Moto Guzzi also made a similar vehicle that had wheels
on the rear instead of the

tracks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwjJuvFOtp4

I'm sure it was an option, but there was an enclosed cab model too!

http://www.bellinaclassicmotors.com/...ole-500cc.html

You see lots and lots of those in rural, areas of Italy. Their delivery
van.

When I visited the Guzzi factory in Mandello there was one being used to ferry parts around to the
different factory buildings. Older'n hell, but it still ran well.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:10:36 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


When I visited the Guzzi factory in Mandello there was one being used to ferry parts around to the

different factory buildings. Older'n hell, but it still ran well.

it should run well. they'd catch grief if (1)it broke and (2) they couldn't fix it.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, John H wrote:

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.



http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

I scanned around and looked at a lot of the Morgan cycle-cars, and it seems the goose is the power plant of choice.

I'd be nice to have one with the original JAP engine, but they've been out of business probably before I was alive.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 20:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:10:36 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


When I visited the Guzzi factory in Mandello there was one being used to ferry parts around to the

different factory buildings. Older'n hell, but it still ran well.

it should run well. they'd catch grief if (1)it broke and (2) they couldn't fix it.

LOL! No ****!

Speaking of running well...mine is running great right now. Got the valves all adjusted, new plug
wires, reset the mixture on the carbs, replaced the brake fluid, and put in a new battery
(http://tinyurl.com/nagdzvd). Milly, the Goose, just loves the ****ty weather we've been having.
Gets me out to the garage.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 23:03:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:31 AM UTC-7, John H wrote:

You see quite a few of these in Europe, and they don't have any special cooling. So maybe your idea for the boat would work pretty well.



http://tinyurl.com/pbqqj5c

I scanned around and looked at a lot of the Morgan cycle-cars, and it seems the goose is the power plant of choice.

I'd be nice to have one with the original JAP engine, but they've been out of business probably before I was alive.

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere
every weekend.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

===

Back in the 50's the city traffic cops in Syracuse, NY were riding
them.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.
(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).

We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the
road!

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 05:10:24 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 20:21:23 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:47:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Especially your own. Piecing it was a wiser choice.

It was pretty but more of a show bike than a riding bike. My buddy
bought it simply because he thought it looked good and we got a
helluva deal on it. A quick trip around the block showed us why.
I rode it a couple of times to show it but, as soon as the buyer tried
it, the deal was off. We were afraid it would get wrecked before we
could sell it.
By parting it out, we actually made more than we hoped to make by
flipping it.

The basic bike itself was a WWII vintage dispatch bike with what
turned out to be $1500 worth of custom parts on it. (what we paid for
the whole thing)
The guy who bought the engine/tranny was restoring one. That engine
had been completely rebuilt with a bunch of the parts chromed or
polished. It was actually a pretty fast 45.

This is what the commercial version would look like if it was
restored.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Harley%2045.jpg

This is one we saw in Sturgis

I once bought three Moto Guzzi's, one with a sidecar. Sold the sidecar rig for what I paid for all
three bikes, then parted out the other two - keeping a few parts for my bike. Made out like a fat
rat, much more than doubling my money. Of course, I had free advertising in the Moto Guzzi club
newsletter, so that helped.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:47:38 -0400, Poquito Loco

wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:



On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:



In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere



every weekend.



Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...



http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg



We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.

(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).



We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)



Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the

road!



Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand

clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot

clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\



I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide

may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have

"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped

with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 12:32:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:47:38 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 22:47:49 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:19:51 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Friday, March 28, 2014 7:01:20 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:

In Europe there was always one or two of these at the Moto Guzzi rallies, which occurred somewhere

every weekend.

Kinda like here. When the big 'anything goes' bike rally's are going on someone always shows up with an old Harley 45 delivery trike in whatever raw form it may be in...

http://www.harleydavidsonmuseum.com/...arleytrike.jpg

We had a 45 chopper for a while. It was a death trap.
(kicked out springer, suicide clutch and no front brake).

We ended up parting it out and saving someone's life. ;-)

Hell, you probably enabled ten other guys to fix up their choppers and get ten death traps on the
road!

Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand
clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot
clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\

I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide
may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have
"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped
with.

Two things I can't understand - choppers and monkey bars. It would seem both would be detrimental to
the handling of the bike. Never tried them though. I'm thinking they're more for attention getting
than anything else. Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:16 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

===

Yah but think of the increased ventilation in hot weather and improved
gripping area for your biker babe. :-)

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 14:52:02 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:16 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

===

Yah but think of the increased ventilation in hot weather and improved
gripping area for your biker babe. :-)

And the underarm odor would keep folks from following too close. Yup. Makes sense.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:02:20 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:

Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand
clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot
clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\
I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide
may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have
"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped
with.

I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.

It was a real fad in the late 60s and early 70s. The ones I never
understood were the Triumph choppers. They would take a 650 Bonneville
and try to make it look like a Harley.
One casualty was usually the battery because that was the easy way to
get the seat lower. There was a trick where you hid a couple thousand
MFD capacitor somewhere and that was enough to excite the alternator
to get things going. If it wasn't running perfectly tho, you had a
bike that was harder to start than a 69 "mag" Sportster.
In the end, you still had a Triumph that was just hard to ride.

We made lots of money taking "customized" Harleys back to stock. There
was a guy in Hillcrest Heights named Andrew Jackson who dealt Harley
parts for a living. We would swap him custom parts for stock parts one
for one and he would make lots of money swapping them back the other
way, giving a pittance for the trade in to guys who wanted to
customize.

I found this picture of my old 72 Super Glide.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg

Cool. That picture's been around a while. I suppose I'll die without ever owning a Harley, unless
Eisboch decides to give me a *super* deal on his.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 16:04:04 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:23:16 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:

Two things I can't understand - choppers and monkey bars. It would seem both would be detrimental to
the handling of the bike. Never tried them though. I'm thinking they're more for attention getting
than anything else. Monkey bars *must* get uncomfortable after a few miles.

Yeah, "Ape Hangers". They never made sense to me either.

I asked a chopper guy once why they had those little tear drop tanks.
He said by the time you used that gallon of gas, you wanted to get
off.

That makes sense. My Guzzi holds almost six gallons. I used to stop every 100 miles, once for a
cigarette, and then for a cigarette and fill-up. Now I stop every 60-70 miles - to pee. And every
third pee break I fill up. Getting old's a bitch.

If Moto Guzzi made a boat...
 

On Saturday, March 29, 2014 1:02:20 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:00:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:



On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:



Springers with derby hubs are not that bad as long as you have a hand

clutch and a foot brake (rear). If you have a hand jammer with a foot

clutch and a foot brake, you run out of feet coming up to a light ;-)\

I was still never much of a chopper guy. I thought my 72 Super Glide

may have been the cleanest stock Harley they ever made. I did have

"Sportster" pipes on it instead of that collector system they shipped

with.



I never saw much future in butchering a bike either.



It was a real fad in the late 60s and early 70s. The ones I never

understood were the Triumph choppers. They would take a 650 Bonneville

and try to make it look like a Harley.

One casualty was usually the battery because that was the easy way to

get the seat lower. There was a trick where you hid a couple thousand

MFD capacitor somewhere and that was enough to excite the alternator

to get things going. If it wasn't running perfectly tho, you had a

bike that was harder to start than a 69 "mag" Sportster.

In the end, you still had a Triumph that was just hard to ride.

Ah yes, ye olde "battery Eliminator". When I got my 500 Triumph Daytona, somebody had put on in it. What a crock. Some one had installed one, and it was exactly like you said. really hard to start. if you took off at low speeds the alternator would stall out and it would die. You couldn't start it with the headlight on, and when you got to a bit of a speed you could turn on the light and it would momentarily die, then in a second or so, the engine would revive. Not a good thing in any kind of traffic.

We made lots of money taking "customized" Harleys back to stock. There

was a guy in Hillcrest Heights named Andrew Jackson who dealt Harley

parts for a living. We would swap him custom parts for stock parts one

for one and he would make lots of money swapping them back the other

way, giving a pittance for the trade in to guys who wanted to

customize.

Taht's cool. Get 'em comin' and goin'

I found this picture of my old 72 Super Glide.



http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg
Very nice.

When in high school, I always lusted after an FX "Superglide" (Captin America)

http://img.eatsleepride.com/content/list/8752.jpg