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F*O*A*D March 17th 14 04:38 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
....Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)

Wayne.B March 17th 14 07:37 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)



More gibberish from Harry


===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 08:00 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 2:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)



More gibberish from Harry


Lighten up, Greggster...next thing we'll see is one of the right-wing
morons here really believing I hacked into your Windows 0.1 daily driver
computer.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 17th 14 08:59 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 4:00 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 2:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)



More gibberish from Harry


Lighten up, Greggster...next thing we'll see is one of the right-wing
morons here really believing I hacked into your Windows 0.1 daily driver
computer.


It didn't take much to pull that confession from you. ;-)

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 09:19 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry


===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.


It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 09:21 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 5:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:00:41 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 2:02 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry


Lighten up, Greggster...next thing we'll see is one of the right-wing
morons here really believing I hacked into your Windows 0.1 daily driver
computer.


As I told Wayne, I know it was your lame excuse for a joke or a feeble
minded insult.

Get some help.



I doubt if help would be needed to hack into one of your computational
relics, but what's the point? To find out what the weather is on
Florida's wrong coast?

Wait...W'hine thought it was serious? Wow. I figured it would be one of
the right-wing morons who thought I hacked in...but the Mighty W'hine?

snicker

Wayne.B March 17th 14 09:27 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:21:15 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Wait...W'hine thought it was serious? Wow. I figured it would be one of
the right-wing morons who thought I hacked in...but the Mighty W'hine?


===

So how is that aspergers syndrome working out for you?

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 09:39 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 5:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:19:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes" indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



It is just sad. You used to have rational thoughts most of the time.
Now you are just babbling.


So, you and the boys haven't solved Riemann. I'm disappointed. There's
money in it, you know. Pretty big money. I don't have the mathematical
wherewithal to do any more than just sort of understand the nature of
the puzzle, but you non-college, non-liberal-arts geniuses...should be
Duck Soup for you fellas. And yes, I mean the Marx Brothers sort of Duck
Soup. You know, the Marx Brothers...Chico, Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, Gummo,
and Karl.



Wayne.B March 17th 14 10:00 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

..
..
..
Snarko babble deleted.

Mr. Luddite March 17th 14 10:12 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.


It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



What the hell is *wrong* with you?



KC March 17th 14 10:21 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 6:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

.
.
.
Snarko babble deleted.


Thank you..

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 10:23 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 17th 14 10:40 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.


It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."


Now you put boat impellers in the same no science bucket as God. You are
an insane asshole, my friend.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 17th 14 10:44 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 5:39 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:19:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



It is just sad. You used to have rational thoughts most of the time.
Now you are just babbling.


So, you and the boys haven't solved Riemann. I'm disappointed. There's
money in it, you know. Pretty big money. I don't have the mathematical
wherewithal to do any more than just sort of understand the nature of
the puzzle, but you non-college, non-liberal-arts geniuses...should be
Duck Soup for you fellas. And yes, I mean the Marx Brothers sort of Duck
Soup. You know, the Marx Brothers...Chico, Groucho, Harpo, Zeppo, Gummo,
and Karl.



You don't have the mathematical
wherewithal to make change of a buck. Spellin's your game.

H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 17th 14 10:45 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



What the hell is *wrong* with you?


What the hell is right with him?

F*O*A*D March 17th 14 10:48 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 6:21 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:00 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 17:39:36 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

.
.
.
Snarko babble deleted.


Thank you..



W'hine is deleting himself? Good deal!

H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 17th 14 10:50 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




You didn't have the chops to enlist in the military, or pay your bills,
or father your children or engage in honest business, or keep out of
bankruptcy and on and on and on.

Mr. Luddite March 17th 14 11:42 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and Mathematical
Puzzlements."



What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.



Mr. Luddite March 17th 14 11:59 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.



Hmmm ... replace "invested" with "infested".



F*O*A*D March 18th 14 12:37 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 7:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:23:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.


It just sounds like one more thing you don't know how to do.



Indeed, Greggster, I said I didn't have the math chops to solve Riemann,
but I am interested in the great puzzle, and occasionally look around
the 'net to see what's happening in a solution. On the other hand,
you don't have the math chops to solve it, either.

Funny how that works, eh?

Mr. Luddite March 18th 14 12:57 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 8:37 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 7:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:23:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.


It just sounds like one more thing you don't know how to do.



Indeed, Greggster, I said I didn't have the math chops to solve Riemann,
but I am interested in the great puzzle, and occasionally look around
the 'net to see what's happening in a solution. On the other hand,
you don't have the math chops to solve it, either.

Funny how that works, eh?



Here you go Harry. Not exact, but close enough for government work.

http://nastyaccident.com/calculators/calculus/riemannMidpointRule



F*O*A*D March 18th 14 01:02 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 8:37 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 7:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:23:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly
won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.

It just sounds like one more thing you don't know how to do.



Indeed, Greggster, I said I didn't have the math chops to solve Riemann,
but I am interested in the great puzzle, and occasionally look around
the 'net to see what's happening in a solution. On the other hand,
you don't have the math chops to solve it, either.

Funny how that works, eh?



Here you go Harry. Not exact, but close enough for government work.

http://nastyaccident.com/calculators/calculus/riemannMidpointRule




Not hardly, but thanks. :)

Wayne.B March 18th 14 01:13 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:57:08 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/17/2014 8:37 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 7:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:23:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.

It just sounds like one more thing you don't know how to do.



Indeed, Greggster, I said I didn't have the math chops to solve Riemann,
but I am interested in the great puzzle, and occasionally look around
the 'net to see what's happening in a solution. On the other hand,
you don't have the math chops to solve it, either.

Funny how that works, eh?



Here you go Harry. Not exact, but close enough for government work.

http://nastyaccident.com/calculators/calculus/riemannMidpointRule


===

Harry is very proud of himself that he's discovered something called
the Riemann hypothesis also known as the Riemann conjecture. It's
not at all clear that he would understand the solution even if
delivered on a silver platter. It might be appropriate if we first
asked harry to describe the Riemann Zeta function in his own words:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riemann..._zeta_function

F*O*A*D March 18th 14 01:25 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:37:42 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 7:57 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:23:38 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.

It just sounds like one more thing you don't know how to do.



Indeed, Greggster, I said I didn't have the math chops to solve Riemann,
but I am interested in the great puzzle, and occasionally look around
the 'net to see what's happening in a solution. On the other hand,
you don't have the math chops to solve it, either.

Funny how that works, eh?


But there seems to be 100 other things I can do, that baffle you.
The only people I have ever met with a similar lack of any mechanical
skills at all was a few doctors, mostly specialists.
They did have valuable skills though. You seem to lack any beyond
writing ad copy.






I'm not aware of anything you have said you can do that "baffles" me.

Your last example of home handyman tasks, checking or changing the
impeller on an outboard, was a skill I picked up at my dad's dealership
when I was maybe 10 years old.

If I need to check the weather, I can look out in the yard or check the
readouts on my little weather gauge, or I can click on the weather app
on my iphone.

I can play the 4357 "tunes" on my server anywhere in the house or yard
or, in fact, anywhere I can get 'net access.

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

I will admit your love affair with an obsolete Windows OS baffles me,
but not enough to raise my curiosity to the point where I will try to
install it on anything.

I don't really write much "ad copy" anymore, but I did recently research
and write a proposal that got an NGO in Kenya a substantial grant for a
village to village program to help fight HIV/AIDs and also promote the
use of condoms. Oh, and for no compensation, I researched and wrote the
documentation that helped a religiously affiliated residential school
for autistic kids get on the approved funding list of an out of state
county in order to help a friend with an autistic kid.

I'm sure you have some handyman skills I don't have and even don't care
to have. When my car needs service, I take it to the shop. No
"bafflement" there, eh?





KC March 18th 14 04:20 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up, and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.




I just kf harry and don... makes things easier for me...

KC March 18th 14 04:24 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/17/2014 7:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.



Hmmm ... replace "invested" with "infested".



I think Dick should stick to electrical advice instead of pontificating:)

Mr. Luddite March 18th 14 07:42 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/2014 12:20 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology. Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.




I just kf harry and don... makes things easier for me...



That's BS. You still respond to almost anything Harry says that you
read through a third party quote. If you really don't want to
communicate with Harry you need a filter on your outgoing as well as you
incoming. Filters don't work that way, so you need to exercise some
self restraint and discipline.





Mr. Luddite March 18th 14 07:43 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/2014 12:24 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P
versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts
your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are
here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad
or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology.
Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly
won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.



Hmmm ... replace "invested" with "infested".



I think Dick should stick to electrical advice instead of pontificating:)



I like to pontificate at 3 in the morning.



F*O*A*D March 18th 14 10:09 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.


That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

The alternative, I suppose, is to hire an unlicensed home handyman type,
one whose formal training and experience in installing gas water heaters
was learned during a stint in the Coast Guard and in the assembly room
of an IBM factory.

The guy who supervised the digging of the trench for our generator and
the installation, hookup and testing of the gas lines was a licensed
master gas fitter who had a journeyman working under his direction.

I'll replace a faucet or pull and reinstall a toilet, but I'm not going
to fool around with propane or natural gas, nor am I going to let an
unlicensed handyman do that kind of job for me.

Sorry, Charlie. Say, if you need surgery, do you have any handy guy down
the street do it? Just how far does your disdain for formal education
and training go? :)




KC March 18th 14 11:43 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/2014 3:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 12:20 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not "around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P
versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts
your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are
here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad
or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology.
Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly
won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.




I just kf harry and don... makes things easier for me...



That's BS. You still respond to almost anything Harry says that you
read through a third party quote. If you really don't want to
communicate with Harry you need a filter on your outgoing as well as you
incoming. Filters don't work that way, so you need to exercise some
self restraint and discipline.





It's not bs.. I have them filtered.. But I am sure you are sure you are
right because, well... you know..

F*O*A*D March 18th 14 11:46 AM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 7:43 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/18/2014 3:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 12:20 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.

:)


More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or
perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is
starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not
"around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of
science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the
thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P
versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts
your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are
here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad
or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology.
Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly
won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have
invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I
have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.




I just kf harry and don... makes things easier for me...



That's BS. You still respond to almost anything Harry says that you
read through a third party quote. If you really don't want to
communicate with Harry you need a filter on your outgoing as well as you
incoming. Filters don't work that way, so you need to exercise some
self restraint and discipline.





It's not bs.. I have them filtered.. But I am sure you are sure you are
right because, well... you know..



I doubt you are smart enough to use a Melita coffee filter, let alone a
newsreader filter.

F*O*A*D March 18th 14 06:37 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

F*O*A*D March 18th 14 08:55 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?


It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

Poco Loco March 18th 14 09:36 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?


It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.


That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.


F*O*A*D March 18th 14 10:07 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.


That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?


Poco Loco March 18th 14 10:28 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.


That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?


I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.


F*O*A*D March 18th 14 10:32 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/14, 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?


I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.



The side roads down here are still wet and muddy and sloppy.

Poco Loco March 18th 14 11:46 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:32:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?


I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.



The side roads down here are still wet and muddy and sloppy.


Driveway!

And, real motorcycles are washable.


H*a*r*r*o*l*d March 18th 14 11:58 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/18/2014 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?


I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.


Maybe he should hire someone to take a spin on the Duc. and maybe lay a
few strips of rubber.

F*O*A*D March 19th 14 03:06 PM

It only took five minutes to hack...
 
On 3/19/14, 11:02 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM,
wrote:

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.



I rarely do but, like your, this was bundled into the price from the
gas company when I had the tank installed.

I don't mind hiring labor for things I don't want to do. There are 2
screen monkeys rolling the roof of my screen cage as we speak. That is
not a put down of the guys, only a reflection of what the job entails.
These guys scramble around on those 2" aluminum members like monkeys.
In my case that is 15-16 feet in the air.



I'm guessing a "screen cage" is some sort of swimming pool surround to
keep out bugs, leaves, et cetera?

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