On 3/18/14, 7:43 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/18/2014 3:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 12:20 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 7:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:12 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 5:19 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 15:37:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:02:19 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:38:56 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

...Fretwell's current Windows PC:

http://tinyurl.com/pz5nyso


Lots of really old, useful stuff there, like "Science Notes"
indicating
the speed of light at 215 mph.




More gibberish from Harry

===

If he really did access your computer in some way, it is quite
possible that a felony was committed.

It was just one of Harry's lame excuses for a joke ... or
perhaps an
insult. I really don't care anymore.
It is clear he is around the bend.
Maybe the stress of all of those legal/fiancial problems is
starting
to take a toll on him



Funny....you've jumped aboard W'hine's stinking ship. I'm not
"around
the bend," I simply like to poke fun at stuffed shirts, and you, in
your
own way, are one. With too much starch.

I know you've been upset ever since I pointed out the lack of
science
behind your determination of the cause of your outboard impeller's
lack
of failure or failure or perhaps why the temps were creeping up,
and it
is obvious you really *hate* to be questioned. Was it the
thermostat?
Was it Chicken Little? Did passing cosmic rays do it?

I can't wait for you and the rest of the right-wingers here to solve
the
Riemann Hypothesis or, perhaps something a bit easier, the P
versus NP
problem. No, of course I haven't, but I am aware of them and read an
article or two a year about the latest attempts, just for grins.

Should be easy for you non-liberal-arts boys to figure out, eh? Get
FlaJim to give you a hand and have PsychoScotty put it up on his
tree-cuttin' web page, "Zen and the Art of Tree-Cuttin' and
Mathematical
Puzzlements."


What the hell is *wrong* with you?




I've noticed you rarely comment on the never-ending insulting posts
your
right-wing buddies make here. The few who aren't in my bozo bin engage
in that sort of behavior here almost every day, and the few from the
bozo binners who creep in because of being quoted indicate they are
here
for little more.

Gregg is ****ed because I called him out for his lack of scientific
methodology in proclaiming why the impeller on his outboard went bad
or,
as he later stated, didn't go bad.

As for the hack thingie, it was a little joke. I think Gregg is a tad
oversensitive about his love affair with obsolete technology.
Perhaps it
is a throwback to his days at IBM.

So, which of the righties here will solve Riemann? It assuredly
won't be
me. I don't have the math chops for that.




I get sucked in from time to time but overall I really don't pay much
attention nor am I interested in the little squabbles that have
invested
this newsgroup. Most are like a bunch of cackling old hens strutting
around making noise but not contributing anything of value.

The only thing I've noticed is a marked uptick in *your* tearing into
people, mostly because you've determined they are right-wing trash,
based simply on the fact that they don't subscribe to your liberal
views. It gets old real fast. I've been expressing some more
conservative views of late just to see how you'd react. You have
reacted (true to character) in exactly the manner that I expected.

This place is like a bunch of school children. This one won't talk to
this one, so they put them in their "Bozo" bin and pretend they don't
hear them. Give me a break. Slammer is the sole resident in my
filters, but only because he's a vile, potty mouthed troll who I
have no
interest whatsoever of engaging with. Plus, I think he's nuts.




I just kf harry and don... makes things easier for me...


That's BS. You still respond to almost anything Harry says that you
read through a third party quote. If you really don't want to
communicate with Harry you need a filter on your outgoing as well as you
incoming. Filters don't work that way, so you need to exercise some
self restraint and discipline.





It's not bs.. I have them filtered.. But I am sure you are sure you are
right because, well... you know..


I doubt you are smart enough to use a Melita coffee filter, let alone a
newsreader filter.

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?

I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.

On 3/18/14, 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?

I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.



The side roads down here are still wet and muddy and sloppy.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:32:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?

I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.



The side roads down here are still wet and muddy and sloppy.

Driveway!

And, real motorcycles are washable.

On 3/18/2014 6:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 18:07:33 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 5:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:37:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 06:09:03 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 12:50 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:25:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

If I need to replace my gas water heater, I know exactly which plumber
to call. Nothing baffling there.

That is the only thing I believe

AAAA Plumbers, the first one in the Yellow Pages



Indeed, I'd want a *licensed* journeyman gas fitter to install a new gas
hot water heater, one who has at least:

Completed 32 hours of training in backflow prevention device testing

Completed 7,500 hours of training under the control and direction
of a licensed master plumber

Has held an apprentice license for at least four years

Has passed a comprehensive written examination

Those are the minimal requirements to get a journeyman's license in this
area.

Yeah I am sure the bozo AAAA plumbing did all of that.,
Maybe the owner and license holder did but not everyone he hires.

BTW I hired a pro to hook the gas to my pool heater and rough in my
generator outlet too but I am not convinced the license holder was the
guy who showed up.


I am. The plumbers who did the gas lines and connects for our generator
were a licensed gas fitter and journeyman who work full time for the gas
company. The county inspector knew the fitter but asked to see the
license of the journeyman, who he did not know. The journeyman had a
copy of his license in the truck.

The gas and electrical inspectors were here several times and for the
final, when everything was turned on and checked out. The electrical
inspector checked *every* circuit. The gas inspector checked out the
trench for the line before the line itself was put in, and checked the
line once it was put in and connected to the generator. He did visual
and pressure checks and maybe more.

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.

That was the impression I had also. Greg seems like a very capable guy and doesn't have to hire a
union certified 'professional' for every little chore that comes along - or most of the big ones for
that matter.



D'oh. The unions here aren't licensing plumbers or any other trades
workers who need to be licensed. Down here, you need to get a permit to
have a permanent generator installed, and that likely is the case where
you live, too. I got three bids for the gas plumbing work, two from
union shops and one that turned out to be non-union. One of the union
shops was under the umbrella of the gas supplier, the other was an
outside contractor the generator contractor used, and the third was a
local non-union gas contractor.

The lowest bidder, by far, was the gas supplier. It pretty much tossed
in the labor of its union crew and equipment so long as I was willing to
pay for the Gasshield copper pipe and a couple of fittings, and it gave
me a substantial discount on the first tankful of propane. Nothing
special...it's how the supplier does business.

Oh, and if you do this sort of installation yourself and something bad
happens, guess what your insurance company will say?

I paid Greg a compliment. What got you all fired up? You need to take that big Ducati out and burn a
bunch of rubber in your driveway.


Maybe he should hire someone to take a spin on the Duc. and maybe lay a
few strips of rubber.

On 3/19/14, 11:02 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:55:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/18/14, 4:20 PM, wrote:

Why did you hire a "pro" for your work?

It was GAS! :-)

They also have tools I don't own.

It never occurred to me to hire anyone when I was in Md.

The gas company did that stuff for free.



Oh. I got the impression you rarely hired anyone for anything.


I rarely do but, like your, this was bundled into the price from the
gas company when I had the tank installed.

I don't mind hiring labor for things I don't want to do. There are 2
screen monkeys rolling the roof of my screen cage as we speak. That is
not a put down of the guys, only a reflection of what the job entails.
These guys scramble around on those 2" aluminum members like monkeys.
In my case that is 15-16 feet in the air.



I'm guessing a "screen cage" is some sort of swimming pool surround to
keep out bugs, leaves, et cetera?

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