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Fred Phelps' son: Father on 'edge of death'
Nate Phelps says Fred Phelps Sr. is in hospice care
Posted: March 16, 2014 - 9:21am

A son of Fred Phelps Sr., the controversial leader of Westboro Baptist
Church, has posted on his Facebook page that his father was
excommunicated from the church in August 2013 and is "now on the edge of
death at Midland Hospice house in Topeka."

Nate Phelps, who broke away from the church 37 years ago, made the
Facebook post around midnight Saturday.

"I've learned that my father, Fred Phelps, Sr., pastor of the 'God Hates
Fags' Westboro Baptist Church, was ex-communicated from the 'church'
back in August of 2013. He is now on the edge of death at Midland
Hospice house in Topeka, Kansas," Nate Phelps posted.

"I'm not sure how I feel about this. Terribly ironic that his devotion
to his god ends this way. Destroyed by the monster he made.

"I feel sad for all the hurt he's caused so many. I feel sad for those
who will lose the grandfather and father they loved. And I'm bitterly
angry that my family is blocking the family members who left from seeing
him, and saying their good-byes."

Phelps Sr., an ordained minister who started Westboro Baptist Church in
1955, was known early in his legal career as an award-winning civil
rights attorney. However, after his disbarment by the Kansas Supreme
Court in 1979 and the surrender of his license to practice law in
federal courts in 1989, Phelps became known for his crusade against
homosexuals, marked by picket lines, the mass distribution of facsimiles
and a multitude of lawsuits.

http://tinyurl.com/ow5pbah

"...devotion to God..."

Now, that is a giggle. Phelps, Sr., is a horrible human being, and he
and his followers engaged in horrific acts against perfectly decent
people who had nothing to do with the insanity of the Phelps Cult. I'm
no fan of the military, but picketing the funeral of a soldier killed in
action so as to further upset that soldier's family in their time of
grief has to be the lowest or damned close to the lowest form of human
behavior.

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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:37:16 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:



"...devotion to God..."

Correction " his devotion to his god"

I thought you could keep the story straighter than that.




... Phelps, Sr., is a horrible human being, and he

and his followers engaged in horrific acts against perfectly decent

people who had nothing to do with the insanity of the Phelps Cult.

No denying that.

I'm

no fan of the military,

No denying that .


but picketing the funeral of a soldier killed in

action so as to further upset that soldier's family in their time of

grief has to be the lowest or damned close to the lowest form of human

behavior.

No third denial here either..

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:37:16 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Now, that is a giggle. Phelps, Sr., is a horrible human being, and he
and his followers engaged in horrific acts against perfectly decent
people who had nothing to do with the insanity of the Phelps Cult.

===

Have you ever heard one word of support for Phelps and his loony bin
actions?

Didn't think so.

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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:11:54 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:


Have you ever heard one word of support for Phelps and his loony bin

actions?



Didn't think so.

Yeah, Wayne. I never thought the guy was even worth mentioning, but evidently Harry does...

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On 3/16/14, 6:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:37:16 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:



"...devotion to God..."

Correction " his devotion to his god"

I thought you could keep the story straighter than that.


Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or
the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who
took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all
the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,
including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were
satiating the same old god?

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/16/2014 6:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:37:16 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:



"...devotion to God..."

Correction " his devotion to his god"

I thought you could keep the story straighter than that.




... Phelps, Sr., is a horrible human being, and he

and his followers engaged in horrific acts against perfectly decent

people who had nothing to do with the insanity of the Phelps Cult.

No denying that.

I'm

no fan of the military,

No denying that .


but picketing the funeral of a soldier killed in

action so as to further upset that soldier's family in their time of

grief has to be the lowest or damned close to the lowest form of human

behavior.

No third denial here either..


I wonder who in that church though has gone out of their way to
intentionally make more lives miserable than our own harry krause? At
the same time what is worse, what the westies did, or what the IRS did
to the 2012 election.. I mean, both were terrorists trying to effect
politics...

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On 3/16/14, 8:23 PM, KC wrote:



I wonder who in that church though has gone out of their way to
intentionally make more lives miserable than our own harry krause? At
the same time what is worse, what the westies did, or what the IRS did
to the 2012 election.. I mean, both were terrorists trying to effect
politics...


Here we go...Scotty's psychosis pushing on through.

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On 3/16/2014 7:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:11:54 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:


Have you ever heard one word of support for Phelps and his loony bin

actions?



Didn't think so.

Yeah, Wayne. I never thought the guy was even worth mentioning, but evidently Harry does...


What's ironic is harry is mentioning it for the same reason phelps does
what he does.... to hurt and terrorize...

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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:


Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or

the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who

took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all

the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,

including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were

satiating the same old god?

Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...

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On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:


Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or

the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who

took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all

the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,

including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were

satiating the same old god?

Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...



No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,
which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/16/2014 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.


You forget, his mind was trained at Kansas Clown College where he
learned to be irresponsible, irrational, greedy, needy, and most
importantly he was taught not to question his liberal teachers.

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 20:06:53 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 6:02 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:37:16 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:



"...devotion to God..."

Correction " his devotion to his god"

I thought you could keep the story straighter than that.


Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or
the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who
took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all
the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,
including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were
satiating the same old god?


There are obviously different strokes for different folks. Phelps had his 'god', in his mind,
telling him to be an asshole.

You have your god, sitting in the White House dicking with the Constitution and making stupid
decisions, and, in your mind, telling you to be an asshole.

Where's the difference?

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On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/2014 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


THEN WHY THE ****... UM, forget it...

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/14, 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


As previously noted, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these
sorts of concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Oh, and belief in a single god is not necessarily belief in the same
god, although it could be. Interpretations differ. As an example, lots
of people believe in the unity of jesus and god, and that they are the
same entity. Really? The god who unleashed the great flood and killed
millions but for Noah and his family and jesus are the same? What
resulted in the change of heart? Anger management classes?

These concepts apparently are too abstract for you. Perhaps you are
better off with model airplanes.

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On 3/17/14, 10:29 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of
Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout
history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How
about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these
murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try
to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself
lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple
Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same
God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual.
If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid
was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and
others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're
little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


THEN WHY THE ****... UM, forget it...


Ahh, we hear from the psychotic rec.boats brain sturgeon.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/2014 10:30 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of
Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout
history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How
about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these
murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try
to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself
lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple
Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same
God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual.
If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid
was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and
others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're
little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


As previously noted, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these
sorts of concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Oh, and belief in a single god is not necessarily belief in the same
god, although it could be. Interpretations differ. As an example, lots
of people believe in the unity of jesus and god, and that they are the
same entity. Really? The god who unleashed the great flood and killed
millions but for Noah and his family and jesus are the same? What
resulted in the change of heart? Anger management classes?

These concepts apparently are too abstract for you. Perhaps you are
better off with model airplanes.

Hey Krauseburg. You know so much about so many religions. Why don't you
just pick one and run with it?

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:30:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


As previously noted, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these
sorts of concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Oh, and belief in a single god is not necessarily belief in the same
god, although it could be. Interpretations differ.

Looks like you finally get it. So impugning Tim's beliefs by displaying actions of Phelps is pretty
stupid.

But then again, you are a joke.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/14, 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:30:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


As previously noted, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these
sorts of concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Oh, and belief in a single god is not necessarily belief in the same
god, although it could be. Interpretations differ.

Looks like you finally get it. So impugning Tim's beliefs by displaying actions of Phelps is pretty
stupid.

But then again, you are a joke.



I don't see how posing a question attacks Tim's beliefs. It's simply my
posit that man's concepts of god pretty much follow the same path and
are pretty much the same, and have evolved as man has uncovered many of
the mysteries of the natural world. God seems to be the concept many
invoke when, among many issues, they don't (yet) understand their world.

Both the old and new testaments discuss Sodom and Gomorrah, for example,
and how god destroyed them, and just everything alive in them, including
small and presumably innocent children. The same god who was
transmogrified into the much kinder jesus? Did god evolve or did man's
concept of god evolve?

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:56:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

===

So how are the feds doing with that fraudulent conveyance
investigation? That is much more *your* speed.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:56:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 11:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:30:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 10:14 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:42:45 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 9:22 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:06:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/16/14, 10:48 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:41:14 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/16/14, 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:06:53 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:





Is the god of Phelps a different entity than, say, the god of Noah or



the god of Lot or the god of, say, all the creeps throughout history who



took it upon themselves to kill in the name of their god? How about all



the genocides in history done in the name of religious beliefs,



including those in the last century? Was the god these murderers were



satiating the same old god?



Harry, you take a simple statement , twist it around, then try to justify it. You really shouldn't try to confuse yourself lieke that...







No confusion here. I'm merely questioning whether the god of Phelps,

which you claim is different than "god," is in reality the same god.

Keep questioning, Harry. You may get it figured out....eventually.



I think it reasonable to assume that the god in question is the same
entity man has conjured up over the dozen or so millennia in which we
have an inkling of modern mankind's history.

Totally silly. Some believe in one God, others believe in multiple Gods. To say it is 'the same
entity ....over the dozen so millennia' is quite stupid, eh?

You're little more than a ****ing joke, Krause.


The "evolution" of believing in many gods to the belief in a single god
is little more than the refining of a concept that some religions went
through as their acolytes paid more attention to their environment and
realized there were rational, science-based explanations for much of
what was mysterious.

Obviously, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these sorts of
concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.


It is absolutely silly to think that all people believe in the same God, or that the concept of
'God' in which they believe is the same from individual to individual. If that were true, there
would be no differences in religions. One man believed poison Kool Aid was the way to heaven,
another believed protesting at military funerals was his way, and others believe dancing with snakes
is the right way to honor their God.

But then, attempting to explain something to you is futile. You're little more than a ****ing joke,
Krause.


As previously noted, you aren't equipped intellectually to discuss these
sorts of concepts without your usual junior high school name-calling.

Oh, and belief in a single god is not necessarily belief in the same
god, although it could be. Interpretations differ.

Looks like you finally get it. So impugning Tim's beliefs by displaying actions of Phelps is pretty
stupid.

But then again, you are a joke.



I don't see how posing a question attacks Tim's beliefs. It's simply my
posit that man's concepts of god pretty much follow the same path and
are pretty much the same, and have evolved as man has uncovered many of
the mysteries of the natural world. God seems to be the concept many
invoke when, among many issues, they don't (yet) understand their world.

Both the old and new testaments discuss Sodom and Gomorrah, for example,
and how god destroyed them, and just everything alive in them, including
small and presumably innocent children. The same god who was
transmogrified into the much kinder jesus? Did god evolve or did man's
concept of god evolve?

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

Why do you continuously lie about your possessions, your photography, your travels, etc, etc.?

Now, I just posed a question. Did it attack you in any way?

I'll understand if you're not able to answer them. Fake owl pictures are much more your speed.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/14, 6:13 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:56:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I don't see how posing a question attacks Tim's beliefs. It's simply my
posit that man's concepts of god pretty much follow the same path and
are pretty much the same, and have evolved as man has uncovered many of
the mysteries of the natural world. God seems to be the concept many
invoke when, among many issues, they don't (yet) understand their world.

Both the old and new testaments discuss Sodom and Gomorrah, for example,
and how god destroyed them, and just everything alive in them, including
small and presumably innocent children. The same god who was
transmogrified into the much kinder jesus? Did god evolve or did man's
concept of god evolve?

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

Why do you continuously lie about your possessions, your photography, your travels, etc, etc.?

Now, I just posed a question. Did it attack you in any way?

I'll understand if you're not able to answer them. Fake owl pictures are much more your speed.


Whoosh.

I don't know what Tim's beliefs are in whether the god of old is the
god of new. I simply posited that I thought that god of modern times is
pretty much the same as god of ancient times, and that as man learned
more about his natural world, his concepts of god and nature became more
cerebral and, shall we say, civilized.

Thus, my question, did god evolve or did man's concept of god evolve?

I understand that could be an intellectually dangerous question. My
feeling is that god is the same god, no matter where one might be on the
space-time continuum and that, theologically speaking, the ancient
Egyptian worship of a stone god is really no different than modern man's
worship of a god who apparently only exists in the spiritual world.

Note that I am not questioning the existence of god or the belief in
god. I am simply discussing the nature of god, and whether man's
perception of god has changed.

Apparently you are not equipped to engage in such a discussion without
making your usual snide comments.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On 3/17/2014 6:41 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:13 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:56:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I don't see how posing a question attacks Tim's beliefs. It's simply my
posit that man's concepts of god pretty much follow the same path and
are pretty much the same, and have evolved as man has uncovered many of
the mysteries of the natural world. God seems to be the concept many
invoke when, among many issues, they don't (yet) understand their world.

Both the old and new testaments discuss Sodom and Gomorrah, for example,
and how god destroyed them, and just everything alive in them, including
small and presumably innocent children. The same god who was
transmogrified into the much kinder jesus? Did god evolve or did man's
concept of god evolve?

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

Why do you continuously lie about your possessions, your photography,
your travels, etc, etc.?

Now, I just posed a question. Did it attack you in any way?

I'll understand if you're not able to answer them. Fake owl pictures
are much more your speed.


Whoosh.

I don't know what Tim's beliefs are in whether the god of old is the
god of new. I simply posited that I thought that god of modern times is
pretty much the same as god of ancient times, and that as man learned
more about his natural world, his concepts of god and nature became more
cerebral and, shall we say, civilized.

Thus, my question, did god evolve or did man's concept of god evolve?

I understand that could be an intellectually dangerous question. My
feeling is that god is the same god, no matter where one might be on the
space-time continuum and that, theologically speaking, the ancient
Egyptian worship of a stone god is really no different than modern man's
worship of a god who apparently only exists in the spiritual world.

Note that I am not questioning the existence of god or the belief in
god. I am simply discussing the nature of god, and whether man's
perception of god has changed.

Apparently you are not equipped to engage in such a discussion without
making your usual snide comments.





John is smart enough not to engage in your insanity. You should feel
fortunate that one or two folks here take you seriously enough to engage
you.

Finally, a bit of good news - maybe.
 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:41:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/17/14, 6:13 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:56:00 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



I don't see how posing a question attacks Tim's beliefs. It's simply my
posit that man's concepts of god pretty much follow the same path and
are pretty much the same, and have evolved as man has uncovered many of
the mysteries of the natural world. God seems to be the concept many
invoke when, among many issues, they don't (yet) understand their world.

Both the old and new testaments discuss Sodom and Gomorrah, for example,
and how god destroyed them, and just everything alive in them, including
small and presumably innocent children. The same god who was
transmogrified into the much kinder jesus? Did god evolve or did man's
concept of god evolve?

These are fairly deep questions, John, and so I can understand why you
can't deal with them. Model airplanes are much more your speed.

Why do you continuously lie about your possessions, your photography, your travels, etc, etc.?

Now, I just posed a question. Did it attack you in any way?

I'll understand if you're not able to answer them. Fake owl pictures are much more your speed.


Whoosh.

I don't know what Tim's beliefs are in whether the god of old is the
god of new. I simply posited that I thought that god of modern times is
pretty much the same as god of ancient times, and that as man learned
more about his natural world, his concepts of god and nature became more
cerebral and, shall we say, civilized.

Thus, my question, did god evolve or did man's concept of god evolve?

I understand that could be an intellectually dangerous question. My
feeling is that god is the same god, no matter where one might be on the
space-time continuum and that, theologically speaking, the ancient
Egyptian worship of a stone god is really no different than modern man's
worship of a god who apparently only exists in the spiritual world.

Note that I am not questioning the existence of god or the belief in
god. I am simply discussing the nature of god, and whether man's
perception of god has changed.

Apparently you are not equipped to engage in such a discussion without
making your usual snide comments.

You consider yourself worthy of a thoughtful discussion. I don't consider you worth picking up in a
doggie poop bag.

I am glad to see that you believe '...that god is the same god...'. I respect your belief in God,
even if you don't capitalize as appropriate. But then, spelling and punctuation have never been your
strong point.