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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 2:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


You are just so, so special, FOAD. That must be why you added the
sparkles to FOAD. It's more
fitting for one of your unique 'specialness'.



It's not my fault I didn't grow up on a dirt farm in ********,
Missouri, or Nebraska, or wherever it was you transmogrified from
a fetus into a racist.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 3:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:18:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2014 2:04 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 2:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


You are just so, so special, FOAD. That must be why you added the
sparkles to FOAD. It's more
fitting for one of your unique 'specialness'.



It's not my fault I didn't grow up on a dirt farm in ********,
Missouri,
or Nebraska, or wherever it was you transmogrified from
a fetus into a racist.


The exchanges between you and John are becoming reminiscent of the old
Skipper/Harry wars of the late 1990's although a little less
eloquent in
style and substance.

So which of you are going to fess up to owning a Bayliner?


Since I'm a member of the 'right wing boatless assholes' crowd, it
probably won't be me!

Does Bayliner make a twin-Volvo-diesel powered trawler?



I've forgotten the details of who owned what. If my feeble memory
serves, one had a Bayliner capable of navigating through sudden and
unexpected hurricanes and the other had a Hatteras or something
equipped with Corinthian leather covered couches. Or maybe he owned a
'75 Chrysler Cordoba. Maybe it was Ricardo Montalban who owned the
Hatteras. Can't remember. Who ever it was sold it for a handsome
profit IIRC.


Always a handsome profit.

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 4:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 3:36 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:18:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/14/2014 2:04 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 2:00 PM, Poco Loco wrote:


You are just so, so special, FOAD. That must be why you added the
sparkles to FOAD. It's more
fitting for one of your unique 'specialness'.



It's not my fault I didn't grow up on a dirt farm in ********,
Missouri,
or Nebraska, or wherever it was you transmogrified from
a fetus into a racist.


The exchanges between you and John are becoming reminiscent of the old
Skipper/Harry wars of the late 1990's although a little less
eloquent in
style and substance.

So which of you are going to fess up to owning a Bayliner?


Since I'm a member of the 'right wing boatless assholes' crowd, it
probably won't be me!

Does Bayliner make a twin-Volvo-diesel powered trawler?



I've forgotten the details of who owned what. If my feeble memory
serves, one had a Bayliner capable of navigating through sudden and
unexpected hurricanes and the other had a Hatteras or something
equipped with Corinthian leather covered couches. Or maybe he owned a
'75 Chrysler Cordoba. Maybe it was Ricardo Montalban who owned the
Hatteras. Can't remember. Who ever it was sold it for a handsome
profit IIRC.



You boys have no shame. Whatever my differences with Dave, he was a
decent writer and contributor on on-topic subjects to rec.boats.
Herring is neither. I have no idea of why you are making fun of his
memory here.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

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On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

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On 3/15/14, 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:26:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

Then you are admitting you are in over your depth and you don't have a
clue what you are talking about.


And once again, you reach for the nonsense answer. That I know how to do
something doesn't mean that I *want* to do it.

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On 3/15/14, 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:36:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/15/14, 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:26:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

Then you are admitting you are in over your depth and you don't have a
clue what you are talking about.


And once again, you reach for the nonsense answer. That I know how to do
something doesn't mean that I *want* to do it.

I do understand that you buy a boat, park it somewhere, pay someone
else a lot of money to keep it running, seldom use it and sell it for
a huge loss.

I use my boat and I maintain it well enough that it will run for
hundreds of hours a year with minimal to zero problems.


Yeah, I've seen photos of your pontoon boat. No thanks.

Your understanding is wrong, too. The idea, at least for me, is to buy
boats that other boats will want to buy in a few years, maintain them
properly, and then sell them for a very good price. Around here, Parkers
are great boats to buy because there is a strong market for used ones,
and it usually does not take long to sell one and at a good price.

I've never boated where pontoon boats are popular.

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On 3/15/14, 11:33 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:09:01 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Your understanding is wrong, too. The idea, at least for me, is to buy
boats that other boats will want to buy in a few years,

You have a lot of "boats" looking to buy your boat?
That must be one pretty boat.


maintain them
properly, and then sell them for a very good price.

So you are just a boat dealer, not a real boater.

Buy one, park it in the driveway and try to dump it before it loses
too much value.

Again I ask, what is your per (running) hour maintenance bill?
Since you imply you do a "100" hour once a year I am guessing you
actually run less than that so I see it at a minimum of $4 an hour and
probably closer to $8.
A 100 hour is generally $400 and up, based on what I read on the real
boat BB, depending on how many parts you throw at it.

An outboard will generally lose about a third of it's value as soon as
you drive it off the lot. (certainly within a year anyway).
That is based on what we heard from several brokers when my neighbor's
wife tried to sell his pristine boat after his death.
I ran the YDS on it and he had 150 hours on it.


Again, I have no idea what the per hour maintenance bill was for my
outboard boats and, again, I don't give a ****. I don't usually apply
cost-benefit analysis to toys.

Brokers have an incentive to get you to sell your boat at a price that
will generate the fastest sale. IF you have a well-maintained boat that
is in short supply and that people want, you can get a better price,
usually a much better price. Parkers do very well up here. I don't know
anything about the old, well-used pontoon boat market is like in SW
Florida.

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On 3/15/2014 11:09 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/15/14, 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:36:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/15/14, 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:26:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha
outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer
look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

Then you are admitting you are in over your depth and you don't have a
clue what you are talking about.


And once again, you reach for the nonsense answer. That I know how to do
something doesn't mean that I *want* to do it.

I do understand that you buy a boat, park it somewhere, pay someone
else a lot of money to keep it running, seldom use it and sell it for
a huge loss.

I use my boat and I maintain it well enough that it will run for
hundreds of hours a year with minimal to zero problems.


Yeah, I've seen photos of your pontoon boat. No thanks.

Your understanding is wrong, too. The idea, at least for me, is to buy
boats that other boats will want to buy in a few years, maintain them
properly, and then sell them for a very good price. Around here, Parkers
are great boats to buy because there is a strong market for used ones,
and it usually does not take long to sell one and at a good price.

I've never boated where pontoon boats are popular.


You remind me of my brother. He buys a car thinking it's a financial
investment. Most people buy boats to enjoy.

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/15/14, 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:26:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha
outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

Then you are admitting you are in over your depth and you don't have a
clue what you are talking about.


And once again, you reach for the nonsense answer. That I know how to
do something doesn't mean that I *want* to do it.
Like paying taxes, eh?

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F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/15/14, 10:59 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 07:36:32 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/15/14, 1:18 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 22:26:06 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:52 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 15:42:02 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

The second suggestion is a maintenance flush

You might want to do that on a 100 hour if that is once a year. I
usually do it at around 300-400 which is once a year for me.

(any time I have the foot off)




Gee, I'll keep all this in mind in case I buy another Yamaha
outboard. :)

Harry we know you just go to the dealer, drop your pants and ask him
to be gentle.

A few of us actually understand maintenance and know how to do it.
That bull**** in the owner';s manual is mostly to make the dealer
look
reasonable when he charges you $400 for an oil change because he has
so many other line items to add to the invoice.

Really ... a dealer only service? Checking for an oil leak?

Look at that list closely and get back to me.

When you put 3000 hours on TWO motors doing all the service
yourself,
call me.


Why would I want to?

Then you are admitting you are in over your depth and you don't have a
clue what you are talking about.


And once again, you reach for the nonsense answer. That I know how
to do
something doesn't mean that I *want* to do it.

I do understand that you buy a boat, park it somewhere, pay someone
else a lot of money to keep it running, seldom use it and sell it for
a huge loss.

I use my boat and I maintain it well enough that it will run for
hundreds of hours a year with minimal to zero problems.


Yeah, I've seen photos of your pontoon boat. No thanks.

Your understanding is wrong, too. The idea, at least for me, is to buy
boats that other boats will want to buy in a few years, maintain them
properly, and then sell them for a very good price. Around here,
Parkers are great boats to buy because there is a strong market for
used ones, and it usually does not take long to sell one and at a good
price.

I've never boated where pontoon boats are popular.
You sell boats to boats? I thought you said you were a professional
writer before you stopped paying taxes.