Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death
Row at Angola: James Varney

The Times-Picayune By James Varney, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune

The fact some innocent men languish on death rows is not the sole reason
to get rid of the macabre death penalty once and for all. But it is a
reason.

The truth of that was highlighted in Louisiana this week when Caddo
Parish prosecutors dropped murder charges against one Glenn Ford. The
same district attorney's office that sent Ford to Angola's Death Row in
1984 now acknowledges it did so for a crime he did not commit.

That's the only just course for them to take, of course, and good for
Caddo Parish for righting a wrong. After thirty years, Ford will once
again be a free man, albeit one who can never recover the three decades
of his life stolen from him.

How do death penalty proponents square this case with their belief the
state should be in the killing business?

The record shows Ford was ill-served at nearly every point in his
laborious and terrifying trip through the Louisiana criminal justice system.

First, although the police had informants telling them Ford was not
their guy, and the informants fingered the same two people Ford
mentioned when he voluntarily came to headquarters to talk to the cops,
that information was suppressed. In other words, officers could have
nailed, or tried to nail, the guys who probably killed Isadore Roseman
in his own home, but instead chose to go after someone who they had a
pretty good idea didn't.

Everyone should be scared by that.

Both lawyers who represented Ford at trial were rookies in terms of
criminal cases before juries. One was two years out of law school and
working for a slip-and-fall sort of firm, according to an account
released by attorneys with the Capital Post Conviction Project of Louisiana.

Then, the Louisiana Supreme Court upheld Ford's conviction and sentence
despite raising "serious questions" about the quality of the state's
evidence and concluding the case for guilt was "not overwhelming."

One Supreme Court justice dissented, writing he was "not convinced that
a rational trier of fact could have found the essential elements of the
crime of first degree murder beyond a reasonable doubt," the report notes.

Think about that for a moment. Let that one sink in. A handful of
Louisiana's keenest legal minds were willing to send a man to his death
even though they were obviously troubled by aspects of the case. No one
was talking about Ford serving a couple of years or so; this wasn't
about revoking probation or something.

This would have meant a man dying on evidence that looked a bit shaky to
the justices because, we now know, it was false! How good a lawyer must
one be to explain that one to the client?

It's incredible. How can anyone be comfortable with this? It is true
arguments about ineffective counsel and supposedly conflicting evidence
are staples of death penalty appeals and, almost always, there isn't
much to the charges.

But that doesn't mean sometimes they aren't true. Are "almost always"
and "sometimes" good enough bars for us to set when the punishment
involved is death?

http://tinyurl.com/q65a9co

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 11:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.



Awwww. As suspected you Republicans really don't give a damn about your
so called "right to life." All it is, really, is one of your ways to
punish women for...gasp...having sexual intercourse. You could care less
about what may result once those fetuses leave the oven. If you did
care, you Republicans would be out there, demanding children of poverty
received decent nutrition, health care, housing, public education. But
those are all areas you want cut back.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:52:57 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

You don't think he qualifies for a dependent income tax deduction?

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 2:58 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive
starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)


Wow...three "Obsessed with Harry" rightwing assholes in one thread so
far...Mr. Frightened Pussy, Mr. Racist, and Mr. Unemployable.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/2014 1:58 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive
starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)

Are yo saying we are envious of Krause? Or are you saying you do GAS
about Krause's well being. Or perhaps, as you say, he served a purpose.
What might that be?

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/2014 2:12 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 12:52:57 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

You don't think he qualifies for a dependent income tax deduction?

Would you support Harry Krause to get a tax deduction. You'd make out
better as a whistle blower. That twin screw fast trawler would certainly
get the IRS interest.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/2014 7:07 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:58 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a
finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive
starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)

Are yo saying we are envious of Krause? Or are you saying you do GAS
about Krause's well being. Or perhaps, as you say, he served a purpose.
What might that be?

Showing me how I could turn out if I let it get to me, showing me that
sitting around bitching about everybody (all the time not fooling
anybody) else and what they do, won't get me there.... Gotta' admit. I
think I have had some bad breaks but I ain't ready to give up yet... I
don't want to be like our friend from maryland as I get older and less
able like he is...

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/12/14, 7:38 PM, KC wrote:

Showing me how I could turn out if I let it get to me, showing me that
sitting around bitching about everybody (all the time not fooling
anybody) else and what they do, won't get me there.... Gotta' admit. I
think I have had some bad breaks but I ain't ready to give up yet... I
don't want to be like our friend from maryland as I get older and less
able like he is...


Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are.
Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that
important.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/12/14, 2:58 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want
every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a
finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive
starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)


Wow...three "Obsessed with Harry" rightwing assholes in one thread so
far...Mr. Frightened Pussy, Mr. Racist, and Mr. Unemployable.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/12/14, 7:38 PM, KC wrote:

Showing me how I could turn out if I let it get to me, showing me that
sitting around bitching about everybody (all the time not fooling
anybody) else and what they do, won't get me there.... Gotta' admit. I
think I have had some bad breaks but I ain't ready to give up yet... I
don't want to be like our friend from maryland as I get older and less
able like he is...


Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.




"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 19:55:54 -0400, Earl wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/12/14, 2:58 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/12/2014 1:52 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/12/2014 10:18 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 10:46:20 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 10:41 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:28:31 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/12/14, 9:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 09:03:47 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

On 3/12/14, 8:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:27:35 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

Glenn Ford didn't commit murder, so after 30 years he's leaving
Death

cut'n'paste snipped

You'd be happier if they just killed babies, eh?



Your synapses snapped. There are no babies involved in Mr. Ford's
improper incarceration. I hope he is able to sue Louisiana and
collect
at least a billion bucks.

I'm happy for Mr. Ford. I'd be happy if viable infants were not
killed also.


You're a funny guy, and so very typical of your kind. You want
every
fetus carried to full term, no matter what, but if and when they
pop out
and become infants, why, it's every baby for itself. While your
slimeball Republicans in Congress were leading the charge to cut
back on
the SNAP programs that feed hungry kids, you didn't raise a
finger to
get them to stop.

Right-wing hypocrisy at its finest.

I suppose killing them is the proper solution, eh?



Indeed, Johnny, when the Republican party works hard to deprive
starving
children of food, it kills some of them. But, of course, if they're
already *here* as it were, they're not fetuses and therefore in
Republicanspeak, they have no right to life.

FOAD, do us all a favor and FOAD.


I have to disagree with you John. I really don't GAS whether Krause
lives or dies. Either way, he doesn't impact anything or anyone. I'm
sure Ms. Grear wouldn't miss him.

I don't agree.. I think he has served a purpose in his own way. I have
seen that although I don't have the things in life I would like, or the
comforts others have.. I refuse to take it out on the folks who do, and
I am not going to let my bitterness dictate the way I live my life....
Just telling that to my wife this morning as I read of the adventures of
my peers in Florida, motoing and having fun while I am here freezing in
my own home:)


Wow...three "Obsessed with Harry" rightwing assholes in one thread so
far...Mr. Frightened Pussy, Mr. Racist, and Mr. Unemployable.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

No...Krause wouldn't say something like that!

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/13/2014 7:56 PM, Earl wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/12/14, 7:38 PM, KC wrote:

Showing me how I could turn out if I let it get to me, showing me that
sitting around bitching about everybody (all the time not fooling
anybody) else and what they do, won't get me there.... Gotta' admit. I
think I have had some bad breaks but I ain't ready to give up yet... I
don't want to be like our friend from maryland as I get older and less
able like he is...


Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.




"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

===

Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a
tree that needs to come down.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/13/2014 8:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

===

Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a
tree that needs to come down.


harry not understanding that it doesn't matter what my ESL customer
thinks, it's what the folks coming to spend money at his business
think... it's not hard to see why he has two bankruptcies:)

I took a similar approach (sell the sizzle) with a little website called
smallboats.com about 15 years ago. The style went over well with folks
"feeling like they know me" after reading the site, and sending me
thousands of dollars from hundreds of miles away, for a boat I was to
build for them in the future....

I still get all the emails sent to them cc to me from testing the site
and such. They are getting a great response but I have to add more
"firewood" to the front page now so I am going to fit in a seasonal area
there somewhere eventually... but I have seen no complaints really other
than that. I am looking at simplifying the front page at some point but
the customer likes it so far so.......

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/13/2014 8:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

===

Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a
tree that needs to come down.


One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on
what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After
hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be
offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first
thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note:)

See Dick, I'm listening:)

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:59:23 -0400, KC wrote:

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

===

Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a
tree that needs to come down.


One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on
what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After
hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be
offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first
thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note:)

See Dick, I'm listening:)

===

He knows of what he speaks.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/2014 12:55 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:59:23 -0400, KC wrote:

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising,
and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely
to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off
as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has
professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you
don't have such knowledge.

===

Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a
tree that needs to come down.


One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on
what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After
hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be
offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first
thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note:)

See Dick, I'm listening:)

===

He knows of what he speaks.


Not really. My comments on Scott's website were just based on my
initial reaction to it, putting myself in a prospective customer's frame
of mind.

I've created a few websites in the past but nothing as fancy as what
Scott is putting together. I did the original one for the company I had
but then had a professional service redo it once the business started to
grow. It was mainly due to the clientele who would be viewing it who
were mostly big, major corporations. I wrote the script but the
service added the pictures, artwork and determined the format in which
the information was presented. The early drafts were getting too busy
and complex but the final version was made more simple and easy to navigate.

The goofy website I created for the guitar shop was (and remains) about
as simple as they come. At one point (about 3 years ago) I created a
much "fancier" one that had flash presentations, music and a more
complex path to follow for information. The customer base the shop had
immediately started complaining. They liked the original, simple to
navigate format. So, after a month of testing the new one, I went back
to the original. I don't maintain it anymore, but neither I or Rick who
now maintains it ever worry too much about grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.
Both he and I try to spell things correctly but an occasional goof or
typo doesn't seem to bother anyone. I've never heard anyone complain
about a misspelled word. The only complaints were when I tried to make
it too fancy and it became more difficult to navigate.

It still averages over 10,000 "hits" per month which is incredible when
one considers the size of the shop.

I think website owners are often more impressed with the their websites
than the people who visit them are and tend to over-do it with glitz and
fanciness. Understandable, but if the intent is to sell items or a
service, the information presented should be easy to view and fast to
acquire.

The other thing is that physiologically a complex website that is too
"busy" and full of flash presentations and glitz suggests $$$$ IMO.
Simple suggests affordable. People don't want to be immediately
intimidated when first introduced to a company or service. They want to
feel comfortable and welcome.

Overall I think Scott has done a great job in responding to his client's
desires and requests. Time will tell if it is effective in terms of
selling the services they provide.

Just my opinion.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of language.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/2014 10:28 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.


I thought you were a "progressive". Culture, language and demographics
change and all that stuff.

How many people do you know today that speak or write English in the
same manner as Shakespeare or the Pilgrims? Go visit Plymouth
Plantation and try to understand what the role players are saying. I
guess we are all "dumbed down", including you.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/14, 10:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 10:28 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum,
wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.


I thought you were a "progressive". Culture, language and demographics
change and all that stuff.

How many people do you know today that speak or write English in the
same manner as Shakespeare or the Pilgrims? Go visit Plymouth
Plantation and try to understand what the role players are saying. I
guess we are all "dumbed down", including you.




Proper evolution in business and social language and the art of using
language do not have to include sloppiness and lack of attention to
spelling, grammar and usage. It's good to avoid broken language, slang,
and jargon in formal speech and writing. If we don't, we end up speaking
and writing in a hundred varieties of patois or lingua francas.

If I visit a commercial website *full* of language errors, I attribute
that to sloppiness and laziness on the part of the site's sponsor, and
assume the sponsor's business is run in a sloppy fashion, too. If I see
a contract proposal full of the same sorts of errors, the warning
signals go off, because if the language is sloppy, the fulfillment is
likely to be, too, and that means disputes down the road.

I sometimes partner with a web designer in India who is involved with
the labor movement there. He's a first-rate designer and programmer, and
he speaks and writes English at a level that makes it easy for us to
communicate and laugh at each other when we stumble on a word or phrase.
He has the stereotypical accent of an Indian who speaks English. As
talented as he is, I wouldn't let him write a word of final copy for the
websites I manage. He knows our language, but his knowledge of idiomatic
'Mericanese is lacking.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.

You need to walk downtown and tell the folks you meet on the sidewalk how 'poor' their grammar and
sentence structure are. You'd probably come home with your ass in your hands, or your head shoved up
there.

You're a joke, Krause.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/2014 1:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.

You need to walk downtown and tell the folks you meet on the sidewalk how 'poor' their grammar and
sentence structure are. You'd probably come home with your ass in your hands, or your head shoved up
there.

You're a joke, Krause.


That's for sure.. He really doesn't know what grammar and spelling I had
issues with on the site, if you notice he never pointed anything out, he
just ran his mouth.

I got the home page proof read and I think we got it down... I am sure
harry will say otherwise, but he doesn't know ****..

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job
anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not
surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he
isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to
pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who
has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written,"
because you don't have such knowledge.

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats,
is the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. :)

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum,
wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English -
contributes to the dumbing down of 'Merica.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:41:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

===

OK Earl, I think we got your message.

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/14/2014 8:41 PM, Earl wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job
anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site:) Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not
surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he
isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to
pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who
has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written,"
because you don't have such knowledge.

Well, I know you studied it looking.... so I guess my front page is
doing fine:)

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

Ahhh, 'Merica...
 

On 3/15/2014 12:59 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:19:44 -0400, KC wrote:


That's for sure.. He really doesn't know what grammar and spelling I had
issues with on the site, if you notice he never pointed anything out, he
just ran his mouth.

I got the home page proof read and I think we got it down... I am sure
harry will say otherwise, but he doesn't know ****..

I wasn't really offended by the first draft.
I would be looking for a tree man, not a grammar teacher and I might
be a little suspicious if his page was too slick. You are really
looking for tree cutting experience, the right tools and references
when you have a guy swinging a few tons of tree over your house.


Thanks... I think we have that covered but I am still building:)