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To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
....one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task,
right? Think again: http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm aren't nearly as tough! |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task, right? Think again: http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm aren't nearly as tough! To someone just starting out that seems like a lot, but once you get comfortable it's really not that bad. There's a steep learning curve early, then it gets easier. Sounds like they are a busy, crowded club, and don't want any newbies slowing up the flight line. |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: ...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task, right? Think again: http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm aren't nearly as tough! Hell, man, you don't actually have to be alive to get a concealed carry permit in Virginia. |
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On Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:20:33 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: ...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task, right? Think again: http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm aren't nearly as tough! To someone just starting out that seems like a lot, but once you get comfortable it's really not that bad. There's a steep learning curve early, then it gets easier. Sounds like they are a busy, crowded club, and don't want any newbies slowing up the flight line. Oh, and I should mention that even our little club has "requirements", but they are pretty simple. You come out and fly as a guest, and get at least three members to sign your application stating that they've seen you fly safely. You then get voted on at the next meeting. Once they get the signatures, I've never heard of anyone not getting the votes. |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
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To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:22:56 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:
On Friday, March 7, 2014 7:43:46 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: ...one must first meet the Pilot Qualification Requirements. That should be a pretty easy task, right? Think again: http://www.1nvrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pilot_Qualification_Requirements_2013.pdf Check out the flight requirements on the bottom. The requirements to carry a concealed firearm aren't nearly as tough! Hell, man, you don't actually have to be alive to get a concealed carry permit in Virginia. Virginia's laws are reasonable: Application for a Concealed Handgun Permit – Section 18.2-308.02 Any person 21 years of age or older may apply in writing to the clerk of the circuit court of the county or city in which he or she resides, or if he is a member of the United States armed forces, the county or city in which he is domiciled, for a five-year permit to carry a concealed handgun. There is no requirement as to the length of time an applicant for a Concealed Handgun Permit must have been a resident or domiciliary of the county or city where he or she resides. It is suggested that the applicant check with the Circuit Court where they reside for any local procedures. Questions specific to completion of the application, residency, or acceptable proof of handgun competency should be directed to the court. Download/Print Application for Concealed Handgun Permit Form SP-248 Documentation of Proof of Handgun Competency - Section 18.2-308.02 The court shall require proof that the applicant has demonstrated competence with a handgun and the applicant may demonstrate such competence by one of the following, but no applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence: Completing any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Department of Game and Inland Fisheries or a similar agency of another state; Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course; Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services; Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement; Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services; Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in this Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause; Completing any firearms training or safety course or class, including an electronic, video, or on-line course, conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor; Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or Completing any other firearms training which the court deems adequate. A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document which shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this subsection. No applicant shall be required to submit to any additional demonstration of competence, nor shall any proof of demonstrated competence expire. |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
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To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with. As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows. I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics. Good luck and have fun! |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? Why do you say that? |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:52:36 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with. As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows. I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics. Good luck and have fun! Thanks for the time and effort...and the advice. One nice thing about the six channel was the ability to 'buddy up', which I'm not sure the five channel allows. I wish it were possible to upgrade the transmitter for the Apprentice. Again, thanks for the help. |
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On Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:49:15 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:52:36 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with. As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows. I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics. Good luck and have fun! Thanks for the time and effort...and the advice. One nice thing about the six channel was the ability to 'buddy up', which I'm not sure the five channel allows. I wish it were possible to upgrade the transmitter for the Apprentice. For what its woth, the 5 cahnnel does have that option: http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...rodID=SPMR5500 "*JR(R) and Spektrum(tm) compatible trainer system" It's a pretty common capability on all "normal" RC transmitters. The little cheapie ones, not so much. |
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On 3/8/2014 3:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? Why do you say that? I thought about it for a second then thought you can pay 169 and spend time fixing it, or 299 and fly it... :) |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On 3/8/2014 3:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? Why do you say that? Sorry, didn't finish my though.. I think he means the learning curve is such that if you buy the cheaper plane without the safe tech, you will crash it and break it.. that's downtime... For 299 you get the SAFE and won't spend so much time down... |
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 16:40:05 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:49:15 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 11:52:36 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with. As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows. I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics. Good luck and have fun! Thanks for the time and effort...and the advice. One nice thing about the six channel was the ability to 'buddy up', which I'm not sure the five channel allows. I wish it were possible to upgrade the transmitter for the Apprentice. For what its woth, the 5 cahnnel does have that option: http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/D...rodID=SPMR5500 "*JR(R) and Spektrum(tm) compatible trainer system" It's a pretty common capability on all "normal" RC transmitters. The little cheapie ones, not so much. Yeah, I talked to Horizon Hobby and they confirmed that. Interestingly though, the salesman there recommended I get the Super Cub, given the offer of the 'experts' to teach me to fly the thing. I went by the field this evening and was introduced to another 'expert'. He also advised the Super Cub and offered to teach me to fly it. I think that's what I'll go with and get the upgraded transmitter. |
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On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:00:27 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:
I went by the field this evening and was introduced to another 'expert'. He also advised the Super Cub and offered to teach me to fly it. I think that's what I'll go with and get the upgraded transmitter. Whatever you do, don't take it to the local park to "try it out" before you go to the field for your first lesson. No matter how straight the control surfaces look and how careful you are setting things up, a new airplane will not fly straight until it's trimmed out. It will bank, turn, dive or climb, and usually more than one of those. It can be a handful for an experienced RC pilot to keep a really bad one in the air until you get the trim set so it'll fly straight with the sticks at rest. For someone's very first flight? Forget it. |
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To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
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On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? Why do you say that? The Apprentice has the "SAFE" feature which will keep your plane from making a Blew Crater. One piece blew over there, one piece blew over that way... |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
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To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:36:38 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:00:27 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: I went by the field this evening and was introduced to another 'expert'. He also advised the Super Cub and offered to teach me to fly it. I think that's what I'll go with and get the upgraded transmitter. Whatever you do, don't take it to the local park to "try it out" before you go to the field for your first lesson. No matter how straight the control surfaces look and how careful you are setting things up, a new airplane will not fly straight until it's trimmed out. It will bank, turn, dive or climb, and usually more than one of those. It can be a handful for an experienced RC pilot to keep a really bad one in the air until you get the trim set so it'll fly straight with the sticks at rest. For someone's very first flight? Forget it. === Do you adjust the trim while it's in the air or do you have to bring it back down for each adjustment? In flight and on the ground. http://rcvehicles.about.com/od/rcair...rplaneTrim.htm |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 09:15:52 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 12:41:59 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? It appears that your choice is flying your plane or fixing your plane. Which one do you want to do the most? Why do you say that? The Apprentice has the "SAFE" feature which will keep your plane from making a Blew Crater. One piece blew over there, one piece blew over that way... One of the experts at the 'airfield' says to forget the 'SAFE'. His attitude was 'we'll teach you how to fly 'safe'! The plane I'm considering, the Super Cub, will be sold with the 'SAFE' technology in the next month or two. Haven't decided if I want to wait. Everything else on the plane will be the same as on the current model, and, surprisingly, the addition of the 'SAFE' technology doesn't add to the cost of the plane. |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Sunday, March 9, 2014 8:36:38 AM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 05:24:07 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 9:00:27 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote: I went by the field this evening and was introduced to another 'expert'. He also advised the Super Cub and offered to teach me to fly it. I think that's what I'll go with and get the upgraded transmitter. Whatever you do, don't take it to the local park to "try it out" before you go to the field for your first lesson. No matter how straight the control surfaces look and how careful you are setting things up, a new airplane will not fly straight until it's trimmed out. It will bank, turn, dive or climb, and usually more than one of those. It can be a handful for an experienced RC pilot to keep a really bad one in the air until you get the trim set so it'll fly straight with the sticks at rest. For someone's very first flight? Forget it. === Do you adjust the trim while it's in the air or do you have to bring it back down for each adjustment? You do it with trim tabs (small sliders on the transmitter beside the joysticks) while in the air on it's maiden flight. If things are way out, you can re-adjust the linkage when back on the ground to get your trim tabs back close to center, but if it's that far out something else is wrong (warped wing, CG, etc.). |
To be a pilot with the Northern Virginia Radio Controlled Club
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:52:36 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:07:46 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 05:44:01 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:22:15 AM UTC-5, John H. wrote: On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 04:50:31 -0800 (PST), wrote: Where's this? Do you fly? What? I'm in SC. I fly airplanes mostly, from a couple of small electrics up to a giant-scale gas plane. I have a small indoor heli I play with sometimes. This is our club: http://congareeflyer.com/ I'm building a set of floats to put on an old, .40 glow sized trainer to give float flying a shot. One of the local clubs hosts a float fly on the local lake where I boat every year. Wow! Very nice flying facility. The pictures are great. I'll bet the new runway is a boon to take-offs and landings. Thanks for the link. That was fun. Now, I could use some advice, 'cause I'm getting conflicting answers. I am considering two airplanes: Super Cub, BNF and the dx6i 6 channel transmitter: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...bnf-HBZ7380#t2 http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ode-2-SPMR6610 or, the Apprentice, RTF, http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...nology-EFL3100 The flyers I've talked to say to go with the Super Cub. When I call the model shops, they say go with the Apprentice. The Apprentice is bigger, has brushless motor, SAFE technology, etc, but only the dx5e 5 channel transmitter which has a lot less capability than the dx6i. If I get the Super Cub BNF with the upgraded transmitter, the costs are getting pretty close between the two choices. What do you think? The Super Cub is a taildragger, which is a little more challenging to taxi, take off, and land. The Apprentice, being a trike gear plane, will be easier on the ground. Both being high winged aircraft with essentially flat bottom airfoils, they will have similar flight characteristics (self-righting and docile). That's what you want in a trainer. The Cub may be a bit more fun when you get more advanced with your skills, which may be why the flyers are suggesting it. Bigger flies better, and IMO, the Apprentice will be the easiest to learn with. As far as the radios, the basic 5 channel will do the job for learning. You may find that you don't really like RC. The 6 channel does have the features that you'll want if you stick with it and get good. When you get into aerobatic planes, exponential and dual rates are a must, and multi-model memory is great so you don't have to carry multiple transmitters to the field when your fleet grows. I started with a fairly basic transmitter, then bought a full-blown 8 channel computer one when for my second plane. Still use the basic one for one of my glow powered fun flyers. Oh, and a third one for electrics. Good luck and have fun! Well, now it's change #1. I just got back from a hobby shop over in Fairfax that carries both planes, along with a whole lot of other RC stuff. The manager spent about 20 minutes with me, talking about the pros and cons of both airplanes. He had both in stock, along with the transmitters. I have been convinced, with what he said and what you've said, and all the reviews, to go with the Apprentice - especially since he'll knock $25 off the price. I'll live with the DX5e for a while. |
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