On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

On 3/7/14, 12:35 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:58:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

Pointing a laser at an aircraft is specifically illegal. The law is
written broadly enough that it probably applies to a drone

I still like my slug of water. The only place a squirt gun will get
you arrested is within 1000 feet of a school. You can get suspended
for pointing your finger like a gun in this twisted society tho.,



The annoying kiddie copter will have to be flying damned low to be shot
down by a pistol. Perhaps a powerful pump and nozzle will do the trick.

When I was a teenybopper, I thought slot cars and the commercial slot
car track was the cat's pj's.

He described his idea a few posts ago. Good idea too.

Or, were you talking about one of these: http://tinyurl.com/luyqw4q


Nah, I have no use for a pocket pistol.

On 3/7/14, 12:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 11:58:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 11:51 AM, wrote:

I still like my slug of water. The only place a squirt gun will get
you arrested is within 1000 feet of a school. You can get suspended
for pointing your finger like a gun in this twisted society tho.,



The annoying kiddie copter will have to be flying damned low to be shot
down by a pistol. Perhaps a powerful pump and nozzle will do the trick.

When I was a teenybopper, I thought slot cars and the commercial slot
car track was the cat's pj's.

Have you ever seen those Belagio water cannons?
It is not just a nozzle and a pump. They have a column of water in a
pipe and they dump a large amount of high pressure air in there to
shoot it out. (The History Channel did a show on it)
The one I made was 3" PVC barrel and one of those bladder tanks like
you use on a well pump (the bladder was shot but the tank was still
OK)
If I put ~100 PSI in that sucker and let it go with a sprinkler
solenoid valve that slug of water would go 60+ feet, pretty much as a
single "bullet". I imagine I could increase the range by necking it
down to 2".

I have made a few air cannons. They are actually fun to play with. I
made one that would shoot an orange well over 100 yards (not sure
exactly how far because it was on the other side of the river). That
was 150 PSI in a Freon tank.


I remember the fountains at the Bellagio and that the joint had an
almost decent buffet for something like $25. I've been to Vegas too many
times, always in connection with union meetings, and it probably is one
place I won't mind ever not visiting again. I preferred Vegas when the
mob ran it.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:48:23 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

Well, there you go. I still can't keep that red dot in one spot at ten yards. It moves around. I'd
like to get steady, like you are, but I'll need to practice.

On 3/7/14, 1:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:48:23 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

Well, there you go. I still can't keep that red dot in one spot at ten yards. It moves around. I'd
like to get steady, like you are, but I'll need to practice.


I doubt I could keep a laser pointer very steady, either...too much
compensating for minute movements, I think. Much easier using a red dot
to sight in on a target, though I admit that the purposes of a red dot
vs. a laser sight are not the same.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:10:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:48:23 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

Well, there you go. I still can't keep that red dot in one spot at ten yards. It moves around. I'd
like to get steady, like you are, but I'll need to practice.


I doubt I could keep a laser pointer very steady, either...too much
compensating for minute movements, I think. Much easier using a red dot
to sight in on a target, though I admit that the purposes of a red dot
vs. a laser sight are not the same.



This? http://www.aimpoint.com/us/products/...t/Micro%20H-1/

Do you use it on your carry pistol also?

On 3/7/14, 1:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:10:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:48:23 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

Well, there you go. I still can't keep that red dot in one spot at ten yards. It moves around. I'd
like to get steady, like you are, but I'll need to practice.


I doubt I could keep a laser pointer very steady, either...too much
compensating for minute movements, I think. Much easier using a red dot
to sight in on a target, though I admit that the purposes of a red dot
vs. a laser sight are not the same.



This? http://www.aimpoint.com/us/products/...t/Micro%20H-1/

Do you use it on your carry pistol also?



Similar in concept, but much, much cheaper. About $80 or so.
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight

I just use it to fool around with...some guys use one to hunt game. I
hunt game at the supermarket...no firearms needed.

On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 15:28:25 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:28 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 13:10:21 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:01 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:48:23 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 12:26 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 10:40:54 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 10:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 06:43:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/7/14, 1:23 AM, thumper wrote:
On 3/6/2014 10:36 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Believe it or not one of the most effective types of jammers is also the
oldest and first type of RF transmitter used. It's called a spark-gap
transmitter and it generates RF interference across a very broad range
of frequencies simultaneously. The operation of a spark-gap transmitter
is illegal now-a-days for exactly that reason but are simple to make and
can be of more than enough power to temporarily wipe out communications
to virtually any radio controlled device.


And some things you really don't want to interfere with that will draw
attention. Controlled bandwidth jammers are pretty easy to make and way
less obnoxious.


More fun would be a hardened backyard toy chopper of your own, armed
with sharp steel rotor blades that could be used to slice and dice the
toy choppers of nosy neighbors whose devices violate your air space.
Chopper wars! It's the 'Merican way. One can envision the escalation,
all the way up to MINI NUKES, available soon from the NRA.

Cool idea, FOAD! How about missiles - already available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQ_5yd_1AA

Sharp steel rotor blades would damage the other aircraft, but would also be damaged by the impact.
Plus, if one came flying off while powering up, you could lose your head! The design of the blades
on my 'copter allow for strikes against walls, ceilings, furniture, etc, without damage to either.



Airborne miniature lasers...or maybe ground to air lasers.

I got one of these for the Sig. Don't think it would do much damage to an RC quadcopter though.

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_...d/9-167035.jpg

They're a big help in practicing a steady grip.


I have a steady grip. I've never used a laser pointer on a pistol, but I
do have a red dot sight I can use on the one semi-auto pistol I've kept.

Well, there you go. I still can't keep that red dot in one spot at ten yards. It moves around. I'd
like to get steady, like you are, but I'll need to practice.


I doubt I could keep a laser pointer very steady, either...too much
compensating for minute movements, I think. Much easier using a red dot
to sight in on a target, though I admit that the purposes of a red dot
vs. a laser sight are not the same.



This? http://www.aimpoint.com/us/products/...t/Micro%20H-1/

Do you use it on your carry pistol also?



Similar in concept, but much, much cheaper. About $80 or so.
Bushnell Trophy TRS-25 Red Dot Sight

I just use it to fool around with...some guys use one to hunt game. I
hunt game at the supermarket...no firearms needed.

And you mount that on a pistol?

On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:21:00 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


True Greg, but they're really not that powerful either. and getting the little noodly feet out of the water has a bit of a vacuum pull unlike taking off from dry land. Oh well. I'd work...



Those things are more powerful than you think. They mount some pretty heavy cameras to them on

gimbal mounts. Even that little one of mine is powerful enough to carry a camera.



http://tinyurl.com/o6yn4nb



This one uses those expensive homemade floats (plastic water bottles), and seems to do quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrArOJUlE0E



Or, if you're hunting for fish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GSSzL3YSO8

WOW!

On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:51:58 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, March 7, 2014 9:21:00 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


True Greg, but they're really not that powerful either. and getting the little noodly feet out of the water has a bit of a vacuum pull unlike taking off from dry land. Oh well. I'd work...



Those things are more powerful than you think. They mount some pretty heavy cameras to them on

gimbal mounts. Even that little one of mine is powerful enough to carry a camera.



http://tinyurl.com/o6yn4nb



This one uses those expensive homemade floats (plastic water bottles), and seems to do quite well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrArOJUlE0E



Or, if you're hunting for fish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GSSzL3YSO8

WOW!

I was impressed that the whole mess wasn't shorted out.

Greg, if you're watching...water doesn't seem to hurt 'em much. Maybe a slug will have a better
effect.