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Ronald Reagan...
Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported
Osama bin Laden. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. |
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On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On 3/2/2014 3:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. He was also the union steward of the screen actors guild. So he had a few liberal misconceptions which he corrected as he matured. |
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:35:48 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. -- Depends on which side of the fence your on... at the moment. |
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On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. Intellectual dishonesty. Reagan stepped up a policy initiated by Jimmy Carter in which the USA supplied funds and equipment to Afghan rebels in their fight with the Soviet Union who had invaded and occupied Afghanistan. Reagan's primary purpose was to exhaust the Soviet Union financially as part of his goal of breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union and bring the Cold War to a conclusion. Osama bin Laden wasn't a significant player at the time, if a player at all. In fact, bin Laden praised Jimmy Carter's writings regarding Israel and Palestine. |
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On 3/2/14, 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:35:48 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. -- Depends on which side of the fence your on... at the moment. Ronnie Raygun was a great friend of the Iranian terrorists, too, and also the closer to home "Contra" terrorists. One wonders when in his presidency his brain turned to mush. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On 3/2/14, 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. Reagan's primary purpose was to exhaust the Soviet Union financially as part of his goal of breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union and bring the Cold War to a conclusion. Reagan in his lifetime never had a thought that deep. If he believed that, someone on his staff put the idea in his head. I saw him speak twice in person and I was sorely disappointed each time. He could deliver a speech from time to time, but not one that had much in abstract thinking. I never liked anything about him. On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On 3/2/2014 4:36 PM, HanK wrote:
On 3/2/2014 3:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. He was also the union steward of the screen actors guild. So he had a few liberal misconceptions which he corrected as he matured. SAM DONALDSON: Mr. President, in talking about the continuing recession tonight, you have blamed mistakes of the past and you have blamed the congress. Does any of the blame belong to you? PRESIDENT REAGAN: Yes, because for many years I was a democrat. |
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On 3/2/14, 4:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/2/2014 4:36 PM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 3:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. He was also the union steward of the screen actors guild. So he had a few liberal misconceptions which he corrected as he matured. SAM DONALDSON: Mr. President, in talking about the continuing recession tonight, you have blamed mistakes of the past and you have blamed the congress. Does any of the blame belong to you? PRESIDENT REAGAN: Yes, because for many years I was a democrat. What's funny of course is that today's GOP has no place for a Reagan. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:47:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. me too, well, Dick Nixon was a paranoia freak, but yes, I liked him too. |
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On 3/2/2014 4:47 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/2/14, 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. Reagan's primary purpose was to exhaust the Soviet Union financially as part of his goal of breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union and bring the Cold War to a conclusion. Reagan in his lifetime never had a thought that deep. If he believed that, someone on his staff put the idea in his head. I saw him speak twice in person and I was sorely disappointed each time. He could deliver a speech from time to time, but not one that had much in abstract thinking. I never liked anything about him. On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. Geeze Harry, if you are going to try to spread your Democratic, liberal party line BS, you should at least try to be a little honest about your claims. Ever hear of the "Reagan Doctrine"? In Afghanistan, it was a continuation of a policy initiated by the great liberal Democrat, Jimmy Carter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine |
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On 3/2/14, 4:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/2/2014 4:47 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. Reagan's primary purpose was to exhaust the Soviet Union financially as part of his goal of breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union and bring the Cold War to a conclusion. Reagan in his lifetime never had a thought that deep. If he believed that, someone on his staff put the idea in his head. I saw him speak twice in person and I was sorely disappointed each time. He could deliver a speech from time to time, but not one that had much in abstract thinking. I never liked anything about him. On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. Geeze Harry, if you are going to try to spread your Democratic, liberal party line BS, you should at least try to be a little honest about your claims. Ever hear of the "Reagan Doctrine"? In Afghanistan, it was a continuation of a policy initiated by the great liberal Democrat, Jimmy Carter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine Right, because Ronnie thought it up. Sure he did. -- All that is left in the contemporary Republican-Conservative-Christian-Tea Party is a majority of hate-filled “basers” that cannot tolerate gays, blacks, latinos, students, women, and non-Christians, and a small minority of “old-style” Republicans who pretend to ignore morons like Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin, and the venom their party leaders spew. |
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On 3/2/2014 5:03 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 3/2/14, 4:59 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2014 4:47 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:42 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/2/2014 4:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. Reagan's primary purpose was to exhaust the Soviet Union financially as part of his goal of breaking the economic back of the Soviet Union and bring the Cold War to a conclusion. Reagan in his lifetime never had a thought that deep. If he believed that, someone on his staff put the idea in his head. I saw him speak twice in person and I was sorely disappointed each time. He could deliver a speech from time to time, but not one that had much in abstract thinking. I never liked anything about him. On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. Geeze Harry, if you are going to try to spread your Democratic, liberal party line BS, you should at least try to be a little honest about your claims. Ever hear of the "Reagan Doctrine"? In Afghanistan, it was a continuation of a policy initiated by the great liberal Democrat, Jimmy Carter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine Right, because Ronnie thought it up. Sure he did. Does it matter who "thought it up"? It became an administration policy that worked. Actually, the real credit should go to Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski |
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On 3/2/2014 4:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/2/2014 4:36 PM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 3:08 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. He was also the union steward of the screen actors guild. So he had a few liberal misconceptions which he corrected as he matured. SAM DONALDSON: Mr. President, in talking about the continuing recession tonight, you have blamed mistakes of the past and you have blamed the congress. Does any of the blame belong to you? PRESIDENT REAGAN: Yes, because for many years I was a democrat. LOL! |
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On 3/2/2014 4:52 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:47:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: On the other hand, I did like Nixon, Ford, and George H.W. Bush. Straight up revisionist history... me too, well, Dick Nixon was a paranoia freak, but yes, I liked him too. |
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On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? |
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On 3/3/2014 9:27 AM, HanK wrote:
On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? Ooops, I bunged it up again. How about unemployment ins.? |
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On 3/3/2014 10:27 AM, HanK wrote:
On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? Beats me. I was reading that there is a little known rule that allows you to use it as an interest free loan though. If you start collecting early (like at age 62) and make it to 70 you can pay back all the benefits you received (interest free) and then start collecting at the higher monthly rate. |
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On 3/3/2014 10:33 AM, HanK wrote:
On 3/3/2014 9:27 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? Ooops, I bunged it up again. How about unemployment ins.? I don't know. I think unemployment benefits are taxable as income, so I don't think they can be considered a "loan". Each state has different rules, so how it all came to be .... who knows? |
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In article m, says...
On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? A loan to the government. |
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In article , says...
On 3/3/2014 10:27 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? Beats me. I was reading that there is a little known rule that allows you to use it as an interest free loan though. If you start collecting early (like at age 62) and make it to 70 you can pay back all the benefits you received (interest free) and then start collecting at the higher monthly rate. Why would you want to give the government back 8 years worth of SS benefits you have invested over the years to start collecting all over again? |
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In article , says...
On 3/3/2014 10:33 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:27 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/3/2014 10:00 AM, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. Ummmm... FDR never signed Medicare or any type of health care system into law. He signed the Social Security Act into law but it had no health care provisions associated with it. He tried to generate interest in a universal health care system as did subsequent administrations but Congress never passed any of them until 1965 when Medicare was signed into law by President Johnson. Was social security originally intended to be a loan? Ooops, I bunged it up again. How about unemployment ins.? I don't know. I think unemployment benefits are taxable as income, so I don't think they can be considered a "loan". Each state has different rules, so how it all came to be .... who knows? A loan is paid back, those receiving unemployment payments do not pay the money back. Those receiving social security do not pay the money back. Remember that the SCOTUS has already ruled that you have no claim on the money you paid into social security, it is a tax and not an insurance product. |
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On 3/3/2014 1:41 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 09:00:44 -0600, HanK wrote: On 3/2/2014 11:09 PM, wrote: On Sun, 02 Mar 2014 16:35:48 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/2/14, 4:30 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, March 2, 2014 3:08:10 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote: Ronald Reagan considered Nelson Mandela a terrorist but supported Osama bin Laden. That was way before bin Laden WAS a terrorist. Heheheheh. Ronnie Raygun. Friend of terrorists, enemy of freedom fighters. One man's terrorist is always someone else's freedom fighter. Take Menachem Begin for example. Another one might be Ho Chi Minh, FDR's freedom fighter, LBJ's terrorist. We even liked Castro for a while. When FDR signed Medicare into law, it was supposed to be a loan which was supposed to be paid back. Whatever became of that law? Betcha the liberal democrats worked it over real good in exchange for votes. FDR? Medicare? That was LBJ and it was always simply a wealth transfer from the young to the old, just like FDR's Social Security. It is interesting that when you really look at wealth you see the people over 60 have several times as much money than those under 60 and we still get all the breaks Not only are we ****ing away your inheritance, we are also taking your salary. Garmpa needs a new boat Thanks kids! Social Security was originally intended to be insurance. It provided for a baseline income for the retired elderly who otherwise would not have any source of income. Obviously things have changed over the years ... people live longer and, in many cases, have investments, savings and/or pension plans that provide a source of income in their retirement years. The rules for SS are going to have to be changed. A means test will probably be the most logical way to determine benefits. It has only been recently that SS has been redefined (unofficially) as an entitlement or as a tax. SSI still stands for "Social Security Insurance" and as insurance doesn't necessarily mean you automatically get the benefits. We pay for health insurance, property insurance, automobile insurance and we all hope we never have to collect on them. |
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