Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

If he's guilty, as suggested by the story, then they should hang is sorry ass.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:34:11 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)

I suspect he was just trying to scare the **** out of the kids, maybe put a couple rounds in their
car, but 'missed'.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Isn't that where Bill and Hillary come from?

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:53:49 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:18:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Isn't that where Bill and Hillary come from?

That is Hill/Billy's home.

That's what I thought.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/14, 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:18:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Isn't that where Bill and Hillary come from?

That is Hill/Billy's home.



Actually, no. Bill is a native Arkansan, but he doesn't live there, so
it isn't his home. It is, however, his home state. Hillary, I believe,
was born in Illinois, and lived in Arkansas with Bill for a number of
years, but Illinois is where she comes from. Now, their home is in New York.

On the other hand, it's been a decades-long embarrassment for me that
George W. Bush, one of the worst presidents of the United States, is
from Connecticut, and more specifically, my home town of New Haven and,
even worse, from the same hospital where I was born. :)

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/2014 11:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun
owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/2014 4:04 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:18:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm.
He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie
Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun
wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started
crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun
owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder,
and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Isn't that where Bill and Hillary come from?

That is Hill/Billy's home.



Actually, no. Bill is a native Arkansan, but he doesn't live there, so
it isn't his home. It is, however, his home state. Hillary, I believe,
was born in Illinois, and lived in Arkansas with Bill for a number of
years, but Illinois is where she comes from. Now, their home is in New
York.

On the other hand, it's been a decades-long embarrassment for me that
George W. Bush, one of the worst presidents of the United States, is
from Connecticut, and more specifically, my home town of New Haven and,
even worse, from the same hospital where I was born. :)



Glad to see you are adjusting your grading of the presidents. Not long
ago GWB was the worse president in your view. Now he's one of the
worst. :-)

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 11:51 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead, police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm. He
was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie
Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun
owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder, and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/14, 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/18/2014 4:04 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/18/14, 3:53 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:18:49 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:51:28 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:33:32 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

(CNN) -- A 15-year-old girl in Little Rock, Arkansas, is dead,
police
say, because of a prank that went horribly and tragically wrong.

Adrian Broadway was shot in the head and died early Saturday
morning.

She was with a group of teenagers who had gone to a house to do a
"retaliation" prank on another teen who'd done a prank on them on
Halloween, according to the Little Rock Police Department.

The teenagers told police they had thrown toilet paper, eggs and
mayonnaise on a car parked there.

As they were leaving, a man came out of the house and opened fire.

Broadway was struck in the head and died.

Another teenager, the driver, suffered injuries to his right arm.
He was
transported to a hospital, where he was treated and released.

Police have identified the shooting suspect as 48-year-old Willie
Noble.
He was charged with one count of first-degree murder, one count of a
terroristic act and five counts of aggravated assault, they said.

Bond was set at $1 million.

"I got the news from my mom who said that Adrian had got a gun
wound to
the head, and I just dropped the phone immediately and started
crying,"
Broadway's friend, Laguyia Bland, told CNN affiliate KARK.

"They was trying to be teenagers," Bland said. "As you know
teenagers
make mistakes, and this was one of those mistakes."

- - -

Thank goodness they all didn't teepee the trees of some insane gun
owner.

They are over charging again. This may be second degree murder but
going for murder one is simply grand standing and they have a real
chance of being "Corey'ed" by the jury.

If you are going to charge 1st degree murder for "heat of the moment"
killings, what do you use for Mafia hit men, serial killers and Dick
Cheney? (the last one was just a bone for you Harry)

;-)


I thought I heard the charge in the Arkansas case was felony murder,
and
he was charged with several of the crimes that add up to felony
murder,
which include killing someone while committing an act of terrorism and
aggravated assault.

But, hey, it's Arkansas. Who really knows?

Isn't that where Bill and Hillary come from?

That is Hill/Billy's home.



Actually, no. Bill is a native Arkansan, but he doesn't live there, so
it isn't his home. It is, however, his home state. Hillary, I believe,
was born in Illinois, and lived in Arkansas with Bill for a number of
years, but Illinois is where she comes from. Now, their home is in New
York.

On the other hand, it's been a decades-long embarrassment for me that
George W. Bush, one of the worst presidents of the United States, is
from Connecticut, and more specifically, my home town of New Haven and,
even worse, from the same hospital where I was born. :)



Glad to see you are adjusting your grading of the presidents. Not long
ago GWB was the worse president in your view. Now he's one of the
worst. :-)




Yeah, he's down there in the dumpster with Herbert Hoover, Andrew
Johnson the racist and Andrew Jackson the Indian slaughterer. Hoover
reminds me of that great Kevin Bacon scene in Animal House:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

"All is well."

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

"He was lying," you say. How was the jury to know what *you* know to be the truth?

If someone says he shot a picture of two owls down by the creek, what reason is there not to believe
that statement? It's true until evidence proves otherwise.

Perhaps Dunn did get away with murder. But you don't know that.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 8:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

"He was lying," you say. How was the jury to know what *you* know to be the truth?

If someone says he shot a picture of two owls down by the creek, what reason is there not to believe
that statement? It's true until evidence proves otherwise.

Perhaps Dunn did get away with murder. But you don't know that.



I'm not at all interested in racist rationalizations from white guys who
if they served on a jury would never find another white guy guilty of
killing a black teenager.

Dunn murdered the kid and so far, has gotten away with it. I hope he is
tried again, and charged with 2nd degree murder and convicted.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:20:16 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:


I'm not at all interested in racist rationalizations from white guys who
if they served on a jury would never find another white guy guilty of
killing a black teenager.


We're not at all interested in racist rationalizations from a white guy who,
if he served on a jury, would find another white guy guilty of killing a black teenager even if the evidence showed otherwise.

Perhaps you're into persecuting others to attempt to atone for your own sins. Were some of your creditors African-American?

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:20:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 8:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

"He was lying," you say. How was the jury to know what *you* know to be the truth?

If someone says he shot a picture of two owls down by the creek, what reason is there not to believe
that statement? It's true until evidence proves otherwise.

Perhaps Dunn did get away with murder. But you don't know that.



I'm not at all interested in racist rationalizations from white guys who
if they served on a jury would never find another white guy guilty of
killing a black teenager.

From where comes that? We're talking about evidence.


Dunn murdered the kid and so far, has gotten away with it. I hope he is
tried again, and charged with 2nd degree murder and convicted.

Like I say, the jury had evidence. You have none.

If he's tried again, found guilty of 2d degree murder, and convicted, then he'll deserve whatever
additional punishment is thrown his way.

Until then, keep the owl story in mind.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:

Until then, keep the owl story in mind.


John, you're not an officer in the army anymore, and no one has to pay
the slightest attention to your orders or directives. Actually, I'm
amazed you weren't fragged.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/2014 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:20:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 8:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

"He was lying," you say. How was the jury to know what *you* know to be the truth?

If someone says he shot a picture of two owls down by the creek, what reason is there not to believe
that statement? It's true until evidence proves otherwise.

Perhaps Dunn did get away with murder. But you don't know that.



I'm not at all interested in racist rationalizations from white guys who
if they served on a jury would never find another white guy guilty of
killing a black teenager.

From where comes that? We're talking about evidence.


Dunn murdered the kid and so far, has gotten away with it. I hope he is
tried again, and charged with 2nd degree murder and convicted.

Like I say, the jury had evidence. You have none.

If he's tried again, found guilty of 2d degree murder, and convicted, then he'll deserve whatever
additional punishment is thrown his way.

Until then, keep the owl story in mind.

Yup. The owl story is pretty good testament to Krause's honesty and
integrity.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.


I doubt, when he is dying in a prison hospital a couple decades from
now, that he will think he got away with anything.

How many life terms do you think he needs to have?
He is looking at well over 60 years now and that is before they apply
three 10-20 life terms to his current convictions.

He will be in jail until Florida DOC decides they don't want to pay to
watch him die, in the world's most expensive geriatric facility, a
prison.


I think seeing him convicted of a murder charge might send a message to
at least a few of the armed-up morons who think they can shoot a kid if
he is offensive verbally or cuts through his yard to somewhere else or
teepees one of his trees.

At the moment, Dunn is unconvicted of murder. That is an embarrassment.

I read where at least nine of the jurors voted to convict him of murder.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:52:55 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Harry only cares about black teenagers when they are shot by white
guys. Most are killed by other black teenagers and he doesn't give a
**** about them (3 so far in Ft Myers since New Years plus a white
homeless man). Where is MSNBC on that?


Another of your absurdities, Gregg. The Dunn case was of interest
because of the circumstances and the trial, and more on it is coming.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:05:15 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:52:55 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Harry only cares about black teenagers when they are shot by white
guys. Most are killed by other black teenagers and he doesn't give a
**** about them (3 so far in Ft Myers since New Years plus a white
homeless man). Where is MSNBC on that?

No ****!

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:03:25 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/19/2014 10:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:20:16 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 8:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 21:18:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:44:50 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/18/14, 4:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.



Precisely. The SYG bull**** laws have convinced feeble-minded gun owners
that they can act out their aggressions and shoot people for any reason
they can conjure and then claim they felt threatened.

As I pointed out to you offline. SYG is just an invention of the media
and it does really not exist in the Florida law.
If Zimmerman and Dunn have not made this apparent to anyone,, they are
too stupid to have a gun.
Unfortunately it is still being promoted by the media for their own
reasons.




I think the discussions of what may have happened in the jury
deliberations negate your posit. When the jury members start talking,
we'll know.

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

"He was lying," you say. How was the jury to know what *you* know to be the truth?

If someone says he shot a picture of two owls down by the creek, what reason is there not to believe
that statement? It's true until evidence proves otherwise.

Perhaps Dunn did get away with murder. But you don't know that.



I'm not at all interested in racist rationalizations from white guys who
if they served on a jury would never find another white guy guilty of
killing a black teenager.

From where comes that? We're talking about evidence.


Dunn murdered the kid and so far, has gotten away with it. I hope he is
tried again, and charged with 2nd degree murder and convicted.

Like I say, the jury had evidence. You have none.

If he's tried again, found guilty of 2d degree murder, and convicted, then he'll deserve whatever
additional punishment is thrown his way.

Until then, keep the owl story in mind.

Yup. The owl story is pretty good testament to Krause's honesty and
integrity.

I don't think Harry understands the analogy.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 12:41 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:08:45 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 11:22 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:16 AM, wrote:

If you look at the verdicts it appears that they had juror(s) with
reasonable doubt on self defense for the first shot or two but
continuing to shoot at a fleeing vehicle was a crime.
I agree if that was the case.

I do not think "retreat" was really an option since his girlfriend was
still going to be there if he left. My wife surely would not be happy
if I drove off and left her at a gas station because I was in fear of
bodily harm.


There's not an iota of evidence Dunn was in fear of bodily harm, and his
communications from jail indicate he was a mean-spirited racist.

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.


I doubt, when he is dying in a prison hospital a couple decades from
now, that he will think he got away with anything.

How many life terms do you think he needs to have?
He is looking at well over 60 years now and that is before they apply
three 10-20 life terms to his current convictions.

He will be in jail until Florida DOC decides they don't want to pay to
watch him die, in the world's most expensive geriatric facility, a
prison.


I think seeing him convicted of a murder charge might send a message to
at least a few of the armed-up morons who think they can shoot a kid if
he is offensive verbally or cuts through his yard to somewhere else or
teepees one of his trees.

At the moment, Dunn is unconvicted of murder. That is an embarrassment.

I read where at least nine of the jurors voted to convict him of murder.

How many life terms would be appropriate here?

Don't you think doing 60 years for simply shooting at someone will
send a message?
I still blame Corey for the over reach. If she had just started with
murder 2 or man slaughter she may have had more luck. Making the top
count murder 1 created a situation where she had to prosecute a case
she did not have.


It's not the number of years that matter, it's the conviction of murder.
In some states, if you prosecute for Murder 1, the jury can say no to
that and convict on Murder 2. Is that an option in Florida?

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On 2/19/14, 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:23:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:52:55 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Harry only cares about black teenagers when they are shot by white
guys. Most are killed by other black teenagers and he doesn't give a
**** about them (3 so far in Ft Myers since New Years plus a white
homeless man). Where is MSNBC on that?


Another of your absurdities, Gregg. The Dunn case was of interest
because of the circumstances and the trial, and more on it is coming.

So you don't care about other disputes that resulted in a dead kid as
long as they are all black. OK


Why are you sliding down that slide? You're smarter than that.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:59:48 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:23:09 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:52:55 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Harry only cares about black teenagers when they are shot by white
guys. Most are killed by other black teenagers and he doesn't give a
**** about them (3 so far in Ft Myers since New Years plus a white
homeless man). Where is MSNBC on that?


Another of your absurdities, Gregg. The Dunn case was of interest
because of the circumstances and the trial, and more on it is coming.

So you don't care about other disputes that resulted in a dead kid as
long as they are all black. OK


Why are you sliding down that slide? You're smarter than that.

You and jps ride the same boat. Maybe you're on a water slide? Greg made a very valid point.
Attacking him for the point is not much of a defense.

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In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.

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On 2/19/2014 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Guns are made and sold for shooting but the decision to do so is up to
the owner. This guy made the wrong choice and it's very possible it was
influenced by media coverage of SYG laws.

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On 2/19/14, 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Predicament? What predicament? That he engaged in a shoot and run?

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:06:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Predicament? What predicament? That he engaged in a shoot and run?

The predicament that made him go for the gun. That's what most guns
are sold to handle. "Predicaments."
Most gun owners don't care about safety or range practice.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:06:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Predicament? What predicament? That he engaged in a shoot and run?

The predicament that made him go for the gun. That's what most guns
are sold to handle. "Predicaments."
Most gun owners don't care about safety or range practice.

Yep.

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:07:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/19/2014 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Guns are made and sold for shooting but the decision to do so is up to
the owner. This guy made the wrong choice and it's very possible it was
influenced by media coverage of SYG laws.


I don't think this guy was thinking SYG. I think he was trying to scare the **** out of the kids.
But, he blew it. I also don't think this idiot represents more than the extreme outliers of gun
owners - that 4th standard deviation bunch.

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:41:12 -0600, Vic Smith wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:06:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Predicament? What predicament? That he engaged in a shoot and run?

The predicament that made him go for the gun. That's what most guns
are sold to handle. "Predicaments."
Most gun owners don't care about safety or range practice.

Are you talking about the guy shooting at the teenagers who mayo'ed his car or about Dunn?

In the mayo case, the guy wasn't in a 'predicament' at all. The teenagers were leaving and were no
threat to him.

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On 2/19/14, 3:41 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 15:06:41 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/19/14, 1:47 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


I think that all the media attention given to firearms in the past few
years (including the Zimmerman trial) has served to embolden some
irresponsible gun nuts who really shouldn't own one. The vast majority
of gun owners would never respond to a teenage prank by shooting at them.

The "vast majority of gun owners" weren't in this man's predicament.
Got nothing to do with the news media.
Guns are made and sold for shooting.
No surprise here.



Predicament? What predicament? That he engaged in a shoot and run?

The predicament that made him go for the gun. That's what most guns
are sold to handle. "Predicaments."
Most gun owners don't care about safety or range practice.


Dunn's predicament was that he was a racist and figured he could act out
on it by firing his gun into a car of unarmed black teenagers.

Car's Owner Stands Its Ground :(
 

On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:

Dunn's predicament was that he was a racist and figured he could act out
on it by firing his gun into a car of unarmed black teenagers.

That's very close to being the most stupid thing you've ever written.

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On 2/19/2014 4:51 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:

Dunn's predicament was that he was a racist and figured he could act out
on it by firing his gun into a car of unarmed black teenagers.

That's very close to being the most stupid thing you've ever written.

Stick around. He's got a bucketful of stupid comments to share with us.

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On 2/19/2014 12:23 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/19/14, 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:52:55 -0500, Poco Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 08:25:16 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/19/2014 5:02 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 06:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

Whatever music the kids were listening to was no threat to his life.

Dunn got away with murder. Another white man who shot and killed a
black
kid for no reason, and the crime was nullified by whites on a jury in
Florida. What a surprise.

Please define 'iota'. Did Dunn not say he was within seconds of
being murdered by someone with a
shotgun? From the jury's perspective, is that not evidence - or at
least an 'iota' thereof?

Do you not see any problem with a legal precedent that justifies and
excuses deadly violence simply by claiming an imagined fear?


To you and Harry, the fear was 'imagined'. To Dunn, it may have been
very real. That's a decision
for the jury.

Harry only cares about black teenagers when they are shot by white
guys. Most are killed by other black teenagers and he doesn't give a
**** about them (3 so far in Ft Myers since New Years plus a white
homeless man). Where is MSNBC on that?


Another of your absurdities, Gregg. The Dunn case was of interest
because of the circumstances and the trial, and more on it is coming.
Its all there in black and white. Plain as the honker on your face.

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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:02:12 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/19/2014 4:51 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 4:45:34 PM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:

Dunn's predicament was that he was a racist and figured he could act out
on it by firing his gun into a car of unarmed black teenagers.

That's very close to being the most stupid thing you've ever written.

Stick around. He's got a bucketful of stupid comments to share with us.

===

Dayumm, thought I'd heard them all.